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Kreceir · 2012-10-01, 05:50

Awesome thing about Jayce is, if you get lucky when ever someone use flash and you get the timing right on your knockback.
The flash becomes utterly useless.

Duo Maxwell · 2012-10-01, 08:40

Same thing with Poppy.

Kafriel · 2012-10-01, 09:07

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Originally Posted by Duo Maxwell

Same thing with Poppy.

But Poppy's hammer is not as awesome =/

Duo Maxwell · 2012-10-01, 10:29

I don't know. I love Poppy. My hammer brings fear to people.

xBakaChanx · 2012-10-01, 19:50

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Originally Posted by Duo Maxwell

I don't know. I love Poppy. My hammer brings fear to people.

Poppy is so hard to kill with that passive =w= and with that ult people should fear her XD but yet no one plays her lol

orangejuicetang · 2012-10-02, 01:42

bc she has a hard time in early laning

Kreceir · 2012-10-02, 05:33

Poppy has a hard time early phase cause she has no sustain or a escape. so she can be ganked quite easily if caught off guard.
But when she gets her Sheen / Triforce she can demolish the ADC with ease.

Duo Maxwell · 2012-10-02, 07:10

Well, I only use AP Poppy anyway. In my build there are always 3 things : Sheen, Deathfire Grasp and Shurelya. The Gold per 10 is helping her rough laning phase (surprisingly enough, if you could caught the enemy off guard with just 1 wall slam, the favor is totally on your side, aside from stupid one like Rengar or Darius). Keeping her W at 10 stacks is also a must.

Kreceir · 2012-10-02, 07:59

Once the game is going into late game with 55+ minutes I usually have a poppy that is more DMG wise.

Shurelya / Trinity force / Infinity Edge / Phantom Dancer / Last Whisper. and the last item is mostly situational. Either its a Guardian Angel if I die to many times or a Warmogs Just to be a bit tankier.

If I do really well early game and get a early Philo stone and Sheen I will have a better laning phase.

Duo Maxwell · 2012-10-02, 10:10

Sheen and Philo stone at 12 minutes mark is ideal for me, unless something happens that I manage to get a kill or several assists.

Kafriel · 2012-10-02, 10:45

AP Poppy: R-DFG-hammer is a 100% kill at 200+ AP. This makes her a very strong initiator, because she can waltz in the enemy team and kill someone off, taking little to no damage and probably soaking up some CC. However, she is very easy to counter with a Banshee's Veil, at which point she'll have to stick to someone else or bet on jungle ganks.

AD Poppy: sheen, PD, merc treads, TriForce, IE, exec. calling, last whisper. Eventually packs a ~87% crit rate and a banshee popper in executioner's calling, making her just as deadly as AP Poppy, but free to switch focus if need be, a bit more flexible (and end-game cheap) than her AP counterpart. Tons of MS, gets even more fun with W or ghost (because her W costs quite a lot of mana for the MS it gives, so it's best used to max your stacks instead imo).

Duo Maxwell · 2012-10-02, 10:58

I don't think I need that much, though. Usually at around 120 ~ 150 AP and I could wreck havoc on the enemy squishy, without even focus on the ulti-ed target. Great mobility with W and Ghost together with Shurelya for initiator. Usually with just a R, I could scare off the enemy AD carry out of combat range without even bother to touch him, and keep on pounding the AP or support one. I would say I prefer AP for her bursty.

Kreceir · 2012-10-02, 11:02

Duo Maxwell, what kind of Summoner spells do you use on Poppy?
I'm tending to use Exhaust / Ghost on Poppy lately since I kinda started with that spells since I didn't had Flash when I used Poppy for the first time.

xBakaChanx · 2012-10-02, 14:26

Do you guys use executioner calling? Havn't used that in ages =w= personally I find the item lacking just in general~
How's hybrid poppy, anyone tried that?

DragoonKain3 · 2012-10-02, 14:49

Executioner's calling is great on Poppy to pop those veils without wasting one of your nukes (even if you're going AP). Apart from that, I dunno.

xBakaChanx · 2012-10-02, 17:35

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Originally Posted by DragoonKain3

Executioner's calling is great on Poppy to pop those veils without wasting one of your nukes (even if you're going AP). Apart from that, I dunno.

Honestly I rarely seen banshee in games anymore, tho it might be just me

Duo Maxwell · 2012-10-02, 20:22

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Originally Posted by Kreceir

Duo Maxwell, what kind of Summoner spells do you use on Poppy?
I'm tending to use Exhaust / Ghost on Poppy lately since I kinda started with that spells since I didn't had Flash when I used Poppy for the first time.

Ghost/Ignite. Usually they are dead in 5 seconds anyway, so I don't need Exhaust much.

On the topic of Banshee Veil, it's rarely seen nowaday, or at least at my place, aside from Singed. They just either have no MR, or use QSS.

xBakaChanx · 2012-10-02, 21:41

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Originally Posted by Duo Maxwell

Ghost/Ignite. Usually they are dead in 5 seconds anyway, so I don't need Exhaust much.

On the topic of Banshee Veil, it's rarely seen nowaday, or at least at my place, aside from Singed. They just either have no MR, or use QSS.

I still see a couple of force of nature, but for top they now uses hexdrinker and honestly adc go with qss, and well mid build abyssal, i see ryze with it XD

Kafriel · 2012-10-03, 00:19

Most bruisers still go with Banshee's Veil unless they're FoN-specific (Garen, Mundo, etc.), ADCs usually go for a MoM instead, the damage is too good to pass on.

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Do you guys use executioner calling?

I do, many times. Not only is it the cheapest complete lifesteal item, it also comes with a high lifesteal percentage. 18% versus Zeke's 12%, which is almost no different from a plain scepter, and a mostly forgotten dot of 4 dps...riot should probably buff that :P

xBakaChanx · 2012-10-03, 00:24

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Originally Posted by Kafriel

Most bruisers still go with Banshee's Veil unless they're FoN-specific (Garen, Mundo, etc.), ADCs usually go for a MoM instead, the damage is too good to pass on.

I do, many times. Not only is it the cheapest complete lifesteal item, it also comes with a high lifesteal percentage. 18% versus Zeke's 12%, which is almost no different from a plain scepter, and a mostly forgotten dot of 4 dps...riot should probably buff that :P

wait wut, what server?

2012-10-01, 05:50	Link #2921
Kreceir Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Derping in League of Legends Age: 30	Awesome thing about Jayce is, if you get lucky when ever someone use flash and you get the timing right on your knockback. The flash becomes utterly useless. __________________

2012-10-01, 08:40	Link #2922
Duo Maxwell A Proud Lolicon Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In front of my computer Age: 37	Same thing with Poppy. __________________

2012-10-01, 10:29	Link #2924
Duo Maxwell A Proud Lolicon Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In front of my computer Age: 37	I don't know. I love Poppy. My hammer brings fear to people. __________________

2012-10-02, 01:42	Link #2926
orangejuicetang Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Age: 32	bc she has a hard time in early laning __________________ WORDS IN THE HEART CANNOT BE TAKEN If a corrupt court will not behead an evil king, than the watchman should do it himself.

2012-10-02, 05:33	Link #2927
Kreceir Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Derping in League of Legends Age: 30	Poppy has a hard time early phase cause she has no sustain or a escape. so she can be ganked quite easily if caught off guard. But when she gets her Sheen / Triforce she can demolish the ADC with ease. __________________

2012-10-02, 07:10	Link #2928
Duo Maxwell A Proud Lolicon Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In front of my computer Age: 37	Well, I only use AP Poppy anyway. In my build there are always 3 things : Sheen, Deathfire Grasp and Shurelya. The Gold per 10 is helping her rough laning phase (surprisingly enough, if you could caught the enemy off guard with just 1 wall slam, the favor is totally on your side, aside from stupid one like Rengar or Darius). Keeping her W at 10 stacks is also a must. __________________

2012-10-02, 07:59	Link #2929
Kreceir Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Derping in League of Legends Age: 30	Once the game is going into late game with 55+ minutes I usually have a poppy that is more DMG wise. Shurelya / Trinity force / Infinity Edge / Phantom Dancer / Last Whisper. and the last item is mostly situational. Either its a Guardian Angel if I die to many times or a Warmogs Just to be a bit tankier. If I do really well early game and get a early Philo stone and Sheen I will have a better laning phase. __________________

2012-10-02, 10:10	Link #2930
Duo Maxwell A Proud Lolicon Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In front of my computer Age: 37	Sheen and Philo stone at 12 minutes mark is ideal for me, unless something happens that I manage to get a kill or several assists. __________________

2012-10-02, 10:45	Link #2931
Kafriel Senior Guest Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Athens (GMT+2) Age: 35	AP Poppy: R-DFG-hammer is a 100% kill at 200+ AP. This makes her a very strong initiator, because she can waltz in the enemy team and kill someone off, taking little to no damage and probably soaking up some CC. However, she is very easy to counter with a Banshee's Veil, at which point she'll have to stick to someone else or bet on jungle ganks. AD Poppy: sheen, PD, merc treads, TriForce, IE, exec. calling, last whisper. Eventually packs a ~87% crit rate and a banshee popper in executioner's calling, making her just as deadly as AP Poppy, but free to switch focus if need be, a bit more flexible (and end-game cheap) than her AP counterpart. Tons of MS, gets even more fun with W or ghost (because her W costs quite a lot of mana for the MS it gives, so it's best used to max your stacks instead imo).

2012-10-02, 10:58	Link #2932
Duo Maxwell A Proud Lolicon Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In front of my computer Age: 37	I don't think I need that much, though. Usually at around 120 ~ 150 AP and I could wreck havoc on the enemy squishy, without even focus on the ulti-ed target. Great mobility with W and Ghost together with Shurelya for initiator. Usually with just a R, I could scare off the enemy AD carry out of combat range without even bother to touch him, and keep on pounding the AP or support one. I would say I prefer AP for her bursty. __________________

2012-10-02, 11:02	Link #2933
Kreceir Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Derping in League of Legends Age: 30	Duo Maxwell, what kind of Summoner spells do you use on Poppy? I'm tending to use Exhaust / Ghost on Poppy lately since I kinda started with that spells since I didn't had Flash when I used Poppy for the first time. __________________

2012-10-02, 14:26	Link #2934
xBakaChanx Kotori!Kotori!Kotori! Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: 2D world	Do you guys use executioner calling? Havn't used that in ages =w= personally I find the item lacking just in general~ How's hybrid poppy, anyone tried that? __________________

2012-10-02, 14:49	Link #2935
DragoonKain3 Osana-Najimi Shipper Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mt. Ordeals	Executioner's calling is great on Poppy to pop those veils without wasting one of your nukes (even if you're going AP). Apart from that, I dunno. __________________ Yes its YOU childhood friend - source of BERZERKER RAGE since forever Childhood Friend couple STATISTICS(spoilers abound though)