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demino_hellsin · 2013-01-26, 00:40

Like I said before. The elder harem each have a running gag which is actually related to a really serious matter. Natasha's always being at the Orimura home is because she is alienated even in her own country.

It's one of those things where you laugh up until you realize what you're laughing at... :|

StratoSpear · 2013-01-26, 00:42

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Originally Posted by ZeroXSEED

...............

That's quite intense but...

Any explanation how he could even... well, survive? Or chalk it up to awesome-induced manly recovery (TM)

(and no, I'm serious, I used that excuse in one of my fic)

Barriers. Prior to Algolis Shroud's detonation, the secondary Minerva underneath unleashes its full barrier power to shield him from the blast while also breaking off the blade from the vaporizing Golem III.

Eratas123 · 2013-01-26, 00:42

@ Senpai - Here.

Spoiler:

Kazuma Oriimura - The first flawed male clone of Ichika Orimura. Despite gaining both his progenitor's DNA and skills, he completely lacks the ability to control the IS and was considered a failure because of it. He instead makes do with implanted knowledge of both firearms and hand to hand combat. Type III anti-hero with Type IV leanings; he wants revenge and nothing else.

Charles Dunois - Only son of the successful Dunois company head, Charlotte Dunois. Originally sent as a spy for the group, he chose to betray his former ties after seeing people suffer at the hands of both the Dunois company and the IS users. Uses an augmented bow for combat. Type II anti-hero. Well intentioned and morally sound, though he noticeably lacks trust for most of his own group.

Saito Sarashiki - Prodigal son of Kanzashi Sarashiki. After an incident with his sister, he vowed to end the Sarashiki bloodline down to the last infant. Type V anit-hero, though he occasionally regresses to Type IV. Rather than fighting skills, he's a great strategist and pragmatist who uses any trick to win. He wants revenge and nothing stands in his way to achieve it, not even the lives of others.

Shouta Yamada - Joined the group out of a blind sense of idealism, Shouta was estranged due to his mother's refusal to pilot an IS and her subsequent death because of it. The weakest person in the group by far and mostly acts as the medic. Type I anti-hero; not very effective even when he tries.

Byaku Shiki/Byaku - The first IS turned into human form. Byaku struggles with her newfound humanity and joined the group for a drive to help out others and see what became of the world since her birth. She has the most destructive capability in the group, yet her pacifistic nature keeps her from doing too much. Straight up hero, though she might count as a type I anti-hero due to her personality and actions.

Vanity Fairbanks - Younger sister of renowned pilot Natasha Fairbanks. She grew up believing that the IS pilots led through charisma and kindness rather than fear and brutality. Knowing of the situation, she handily joins the group out of a perceived sense of fault. A prodigy IS pilot, she's very skilled in using her own version of the Silverio Gospel. Straight hero.

Celeste Bodewig - Daughter of Laura Bodewig and Childhood friends with Charles. When Charles defected, Celeste was put under orders to exterminate him in order to ensure he wouldn't be a danger. Out of their relationship as childhood friends, Celeste instead chooses to join the group and try to coerce Charles into leaving. Like her mother, she has cybernetic augments and an IS to compensate for weaponry. Type V anti-hero/Villain Protagonist. She makes it clear she's only joined the group for Charles and would still kill him if he proved too far gone to save.

Usagi Shinonono - Tabane's estranged daughter. Rather than joining for a specific cause or person, she joined simply because she found their plans interesting and wanted to see if they would succeed. While she doesn't help a lot of the time, the times she does proves invaluable due to her super genius intellect. Hard to place her on the scale, though it might be safe to call her a Type IV - V due to her chaotic neutral tendencies.

ZeroXSEED · 2013-01-26, 01:07

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Originally Posted by demino_hellsin

Like I said before. The elder harem each have a running gag which is actually related to a really serious matter. Natasha's always being at the Orimura home is because she is alienated even in her own country.

It's one of those things where you laugh up until you realize what you're laughing at... :|

I knew that trope well

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Originally Posted by StratoSpear

Barriers. Prior to Algolis Shroud's detonation, the secondary Minerva underneath unleashes its full barrier power to shield him from the blast while also breaking off the blade from the vaporizing Golem III.

So it's like imperfect reactive armor (because the blast is that strong)

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Originally Posted by Eratas123

@ Senpai - Here.

Spoiler:

Kazuma Oriimura - The first flawed male clone of Ichika Orimura. Despite gaining both his progenitor's DNA and skills, he completely lacks the ability to control the IS and was considered a failure because of it. He instead makes do with implanted knowledge of both firearms and hand to hand combat. Type III anti-hero with Type IV leanings; he wants revenge and nothing else.

Charles Dunois - Only son of the successful Dunois company head, Charlotte Dunois. Originally sent as a spy for the group, he chose to betray his former ties after seeing people suffer at the hands of both the Dunois company and the IS users. Uses an augmented bow for combat. Type II anti-hero. Well intentioned and morally sound, though he noticeably lacks trust for most of his own group.

Saito Sarashiki - Prodigal son of Kanzashi Sarashiki. After an incident with his sister, he vowed to end the Sarashiki bloodline down to the last infant. Type V anit-hero, though he occasionally regresses to Type IV. Rather than fighting skills, he's a great strategist and pragmatist who uses any trick to win. He wants revenge and nothing stands in his way to achieve it, not even the lives of others.

Shouta Yamada - Joined the group out of a blind sense of idealism, Shouta was estranged due to his mother's refusal to pilot an IS and her subsequent death because of it. The weakest person in the group by far and mostly acts as the medic. Type I anti-hero; not very effective even when he tries.

Byaku Shiki/Byaku - The first IS turned into human form. Byaku struggles with her newfound humanity and joined the group for a drive to help out others and see what became of the world since her birth. She has the most destructive capability in the group, yet her pacifistic nature keeps her from doing too much. Straight up hero, though she might count as a type I anti-hero due to her personality and actions.

Vanity Fairbanks - Younger sister of renowned pilot Natasha Fairbanks. She grew up believing that the IS pilots led through charisma and kindness rather than fear and brutality. Knowing of the situation, she handily joins the group out of a perceived sense of fault. A prodigy IS pilot, she's very skilled in using her own version of the Silverio Gospel. Straight hero.

Celeste Bodewig - Daughter of Laura Bodewig and Childhood friends with Charles. When Charles defected, Celeste was put under orders to exterminate him in order to ensure he wouldn't be a danger. Out of their relationship as childhood friends, Celeste instead chooses to join the group and try to coerce Charles into leaving. Like her mother, she has cybernetic augments and an IS to compensate for weaponry. Type V anti-hero/Villain Protagonist. She makes it clear she's only joined the group for Charles and would still kill him if he proved too far gone to save.

Usagi Shinonono - Tabane's estranged daughter. Rather than joining for a specific cause or person, she joined simply because she found their plans interesting and wanted to see if they would succeed. While she doesn't help a lot of the time, the times she does proves invaluable due to her super genius intellect. Hard to place her on the scale, though it might be safe to call her a Type IV - V due to her chaotic neutral tendencies.

I don't see why this can be problem. While the morality of the character vary, it's still up to the author to decide whether the conflict is meaningful or just there for the sake of drama.

For example, debating about the execution of a mission: it put a strain on the next mission until they repair their bond to acceptable level, or maybe the next mission fail because they didn't and even going so far as trying to kill each other. This meant the conflict is meaningful.

If two character lash out and tried to kill each other for the sake of killing each other, especially if the current plot is dropped for that pointless fight who didn't affect anything or anyone, then it's meaningless conflict.

These two is one of the few examples, this apply to anyone outside protagonist as well, and not only about conflict or struggle either.

demino_hellsin · 2013-01-26, 01:21

Can one consider being forced into an unwanted marriage a serious problem?

ZeroXSEED · 2013-01-26, 01:28

Sure thing

How serious and how grave is up to the author of course.

demino_hellsin · 2013-01-26, 01:34

I wanted beaten into it but I'm not sure how I can pull that off and it might be overboard... degradation by parents?

ZeroXSEED · 2013-01-26, 01:53

Up to you

I purposefully made "Trigger free" fics so far because it's safe. Except one fic that's really the result of frustration converted into sick fantasies.

demino_hellsin · 2013-01-26, 02:16

For fantasy... yeah... ClarissaXMaya...

ZeroXSEED · 2013-01-26, 02:22

Oh, I'm also the few guys who's not into yuri

Eratas123 · 2013-01-26, 03:27

@ Senpai - Kazuma and Celeste constantly goad one another into fighting, and they cooperate the least during missions. This comes to a head when many of them plan to assassins Cecilia; Britain's sole monarch and leader (Yes, I know the Queen doesn't do much in RL).

StratoSpear · 2013-01-26, 04:31

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So it's like imperfect reactive armor

Not sure what you meant there, Zero.

ZeroXSEED · 2013-01-26, 04:45

Reactive armor explode outward but the thick plating under the explosive made th vehicle unharmed

Imagine if it's a little too thin

demino_hellsin · 2013-01-26, 06:04

Someone please punch me

Two metals that I imagine but cannot find to be useful other than rule of cool:

-First is ignitable metal

-Second is a metal that basically has a crystalline structure that resonate with each other like a tuning fork.

Eratas123 · 2013-01-26, 06:32

@ Demi - Depends. Can the first metal melt? Dousing your opponent in it and then smacking him with a lit match would be really useful.

demino_hellsin · 2013-01-26, 07:24

Thing is that it can't melt. It has a low ignition point but melting point is quite a ways higher. It catalyzes oxidation but doesn't exactly burn as fuel. So the metal is technically not burning but the metal is where burning occurs...

That sounded a lot less complicated/convoluted in my head.

StratoSpear · 2013-01-26, 07:32

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Originally Posted by ZeroXSEED

Reactive armor explode outward but the thick plating under the explosive made th vehicle unharmed

Imagine if it's a little too thin

Actually there's barely any heavy plating sandwiched between the Shroud armor and the Minerva.

When in use, the Shroud does not use barrier for defense. The barrier is exclusive to the Minerva within the armor that will automatically trigger upon the Shroud's destruction, covering the secondary Minerva with a very thick barrier to make sure it's completely shielded from the dense particle discharge caused when the Shroud goes boom.

demino_hellsin · 2013-01-26, 07:49

reactive barrier yay?

StratoSpear · 2013-01-26, 07:56

You can put it that way, I suppose. But even with the barrier on, the blade remains impaled into his body since it's covered by the barrier as well.

demino_hellsin · 2013-01-26, 09:07

Hmmm... what if there were a character that was practically evil violent slavedriver when sleep deprived, perfectly adorable and fresh when well rested?

2013-01-26, 00:42	Link #39943
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	@ Senpai - Here. Spoiler: Kazuma Oriimura - The first flawed male clone of Ichika Orimura. Despite gaining both his progenitor's DNA and skills, he completely lacks the ability to control the IS and was considered a failure because of it. He instead makes do with implanted knowledge of both firearms and hand to hand combat. Type III anti-hero with Type IV leanings; he wants revenge and nothing else. Charles Dunois - Only son of the successful Dunois company head, Charlotte Dunois. Originally sent as a spy for the group, he chose to betray his former ties after seeing people suffer at the hands of both the Dunois company and the IS users. Uses an augmented bow for combat. Type II anti-hero. Well intentioned and morally sound, though he noticeably lacks trust for most of his own group. Saito Sarashiki - Prodigal son of Kanzashi Sarashiki. After an incident with his sister, he vowed to end the Sarashiki bloodline down to the last infant. Type V anit-hero, though he occasionally regresses to Type IV. Rather than fighting skills, he's a great strategist and pragmatist who uses any trick to win. He wants revenge and nothing stands in his way to achieve it, not even the lives of others. Shouta Yamada - Joined the group out of a blind sense of idealism, Shouta was estranged due to his mother's refusal to pilot an IS and her subsequent death because of it. The weakest person in the group by far and mostly acts as the medic. Type I anti-hero; not very effective even when he tries. Byaku Shiki/Byaku - The first IS turned into human form. Byaku struggles with her newfound humanity and joined the group for a drive to help out others and see what became of the world since her birth. She has the most destructive capability in the group, yet her pacifistic nature keeps her from doing too much. Straight up hero, though she might count as a type I anti-hero due to her personality and actions. Vanity Fairbanks - Younger sister of renowned pilot Natasha Fairbanks. She grew up believing that the IS pilots led through charisma and kindness rather than fear and brutality. Knowing of the situation, she handily joins the group out of a perceived sense of fault. A prodigy IS pilot, she's very skilled in using her own version of the Silverio Gospel. Straight hero. Celeste Bodewig - Daughter of Laura Bodewig and Childhood friends with Charles. When Charles defected, Celeste was put under orders to exterminate him in order to ensure he wouldn't be a danger. Out of their relationship as childhood friends, Celeste instead chooses to join the group and try to coerce Charles into leaving. Like her mother, she has cybernetic augments and an IS to compensate for weaponry. Type V anti-hero/Villain Protagonist. She makes it clear she's only joined the group for Charles and would still kill him if he proved too far gone to save. Usagi Shinonono - Tabane's estranged daughter. Rather than joining for a specific cause or person, she joined simply because she found their plans interesting and wanted to see if they would succeed. While she doesn't help a lot of the time, the times she does proves invaluable due to her super genius intellect. Hard to place her on the scale, though it might be safe to call her a Type IV - V due to her chaotic neutral tendencies. __________________

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ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Sure thing How serious and how grave is up to the author of course. __________________

2013-01-26, 01:53	Link #39948
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Up to you I purposefully made "Trigger free" fics so far because it's safe. Except one fic that's really the result of frustration converted into sick fantasies. __________________

2013-01-26, 02:22	Link #39950
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Oh, I'm also the few guys who's not into yuri __________________

2013-01-26, 03:27	Link #39951
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	@ Senpai - Kazuma and Celeste constantly goad one another into fighting, and they cooperate the least during missions. This comes to a head when many of them plan to assassins Cecilia; Britain's sole monarch and leader (Yes, I know the Queen doesn't do much in RL). __________________

2013-01-26, 00:40	Link #39941
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	Like I said before. The elder harem each have a running gag which is actually related to a really serious matter. Natasha's always being at the Orimura home is because she is alienated even in her own country. It's one of those things where you laugh up until you realize what you're laughing at... :\|

2013-01-26, 01:21	Link #39945
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	Can one consider being forced into an unwanted marriage a serious problem?

2013-01-26, 01:34	Link #39947
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	I wanted beaten into it but I'm not sure how I can pull that off and it might be overboard... degradation by parents?

2013-01-26, 02:16	Link #39949
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	For fantasy... yeah... ClarissaXMaya...

2013-01-26, 04:45	Link #39953
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Reactive armor explode outward but the thick plating under the explosive made th vehicle unharmed Imagine if it's a little too thin __________________

2013-01-26, 06:04	Link #39954
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	Someone please punch me Two metals that I imagine but cannot find to be useful other than rule of cool: -First is ignitable metal -Second is a metal that basically has a crystalline structure that resonate with each other like a tuning fork.

2013-01-26, 06:32	Link #39955
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	@ Demi - Depends. Can the first metal melt? Dousing your opponent in it and then smacking him with a lit match would be really useful. __________________

2013-01-26, 07:24	Link #39956
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	Thing is that it can't melt. It has a low ignition point but melting point is quite a ways higher. It catalyzes oxidation but doesn't exactly burn as fuel. So the metal is technically not burning but the metal is where burning occurs... That sounded a lot less complicated/convoluted in my head.

2013-01-26, 07:49	Link #39958
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	reactive barrier yay?

2013-01-26, 07:56	Link #39959
StratoSpear Titans Test Team Pilot Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The Elysium	You can put it that way, I suppose. But even with the barrier on, the blade remains impaled into his body since it's covered by the barrier as well. __________________ "You cannot be bad at watching a movie. You cannot be bad at listening to an album. ...But you can be bad at playing a videogame, and the game will punish you and deny you access to the rest of the videogame."

2013-01-26, 09:07	Link #39960
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	Hmmm... what if there were a character that was practically evil violent slavedriver when sleep deprived, perfectly adorable and fresh when well rested?