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sayde · 2011-11-08, 13:25

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A Creeping Danger in the Kurosaki Family?! Ichigo's Confusion! - 黒崎家に忍び寄る危機！？一護の迷い！ ~ Kurosaki-ka ni shinobiyoru kiki!? Ichigo no mayoi!.

Next episode:

Power of the Substitute Badge, Ichigo's "Pride"! - 代行証の力、一護の“誇り”！ ~ Daikōshō no chikara, Ichigo no "hokori"!.

Kafriel · 2011-11-08, 15:14

Much better than last week, new music scores, bits of plot and Ichigo's decision to hear Ginjou out...but the omake was funny as hell...don't lose it again

Kookee2k2 · 2011-11-08, 18:52

the omake was great too

and the part where Ichigo had to deal with a hollow was also just awesome, reminded me of alot when Chad fought one the first time (just a whole lot less 'lol')

sergel02 · 2011-11-08, 19:08

I got new music and a lot of Yuzu, so I'm happy.

Aiizen · 2011-11-09, 08:39

Ahh so good to have an affirmative on him wanting his powers back! Seeing him fight the hollow was awesome too. Looking forward to next week!

FlareKnight · 2011-11-09, 09:07

That hollow was definitely effective in getting things done. He might be able to live without his powers but seeing his sister nearly killed is another thing entirely. Plus can at least guess the one guy tailing Ichigo is part of a different group though their objective is still hard to guess at.

Things moving along while keeping a bit of comical stuff like Ichigo getting tailed by that tsundere

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Aqua Knight · 2011-11-09, 09:30

The guy with long hair, not Ginjo, is really creepy. Yeah, and fighting Hollow bare handed is badass.

DmonHiro · 2011-11-12, 09:20

As you will soon see, these Xecution guys are VERY powerful. So... where the hell were they when Aizen was rampaging? How come Soul Society never even mentioned such powerful individuals? How come Aizen never mentioned such powerful individuals? Reality bending is a power that would get the attention of both sides. Short answer: Kubo is pulling everything out of his ass with no concerns for continuity or plot consistence.

sayde · 2011-11-12, 09:35

I'd like to properly respond to that point, but bringing up future events from the manga isn't allowed. As the OP states, even hints or vague remarks aren't okay. So it'd be bad to discuss that here. You might want to either reword the post or delete it before a mod sees it. You can also feel free to repost that message in this weeks chapter thread if you'd like to discuss it further.

DmonHiro · 2011-11-12, 12:14

What are you talking about? What spoilers? The reality bending part? They're already doing that. They can change one thing into another. That's reality bending.

sayde · 2011-11-12, 12:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by DmonHiro

What are you talking about? What spoilers? The reality bending part? They're already doing that. They can change one thing into another. That's reality bending.

What can be interpreted as a vague spoiler is

Quote:

As you will soon see, these Xecution guys are VERY powerful

...unless that particular statement was intended to be interpreted as nothing more than a prediction/opinion (in which case, I apologize for the misunderstanding).

DmonHiro · 2011-11-12, 13:20

Well... reality bending IS a very powerful ability, isn't it? And they haven't even introduced all of them (Like the guy with the book,, whatever his story is)

sayde · 2011-11-12, 13:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by DmonHiro

Well... reality bending IS a very powerful ability, isn't it?

Point taken. One would think so. Though it all depends on how it's used and how far Kubo's willing to take it. Based on his track record so far, I wouldn't immediately jump to any conclusions. Fullbringers can indeed manipulate souls (and can therefore manipulate reality to a limited degree). By all means, the potential for some incredibly cheap possibilities is there for the taking, but only if Kubo's willing to take full advantage of the possibilities in question when it counts.

We'll see...

DmonHiro · 2011-11-12, 13:52

Kito Kubo use the potential for a very cheap technique? Why, that would be so unexpected my head might explode....

I WILL admit an Ichigo who's lost his cool is fun to watch.

sayde · 2011-11-12, 14:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by DmonHiro

Kito Kubo use the potential for a very cheap technique? Why, that would be so unexpected my head might explode....

lol. My sarcasm detector is broken at the moment. So the only other thing I'll say is that Kubo's utilized the potential for some of the cheap abilities he's created in the past. I won't deny him that. The problem is, he doesn't always do these abilities justice when it counts--which is the main point I'd like to emphasize. You can have the most powerful abilities ever, but it all amounts to nothing if its either not used, or used poorly at a critical moment.

DmonHiro · 2011-11-12, 15:10

Case in point, Aizen should have technically WON, considering his Shikai power. If used properly, there would be no way to defeat him. The only real reason he lost was because:
1. He never tried using it on Ichigo.
2. He stopped using it anyway.

ookamigirl · 2011-11-13, 06:57

Ichigo still troubled by everything happening around him..
Guess, he won't have any peace until he gets some power and takes his life into his own hands.

Mr. DJ · 2011-11-13, 20:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by DmonHiro

As you will soon see, these Xecution guys are VERY powerful. So... where the hell were they when Aizen was rampaging? How come Soul Society never even mentioned such powerful individuals? How come Aizen never mentioned such powerful individuals? Reality bending is a power that would get the attention of both sides. Short answer: Kubo is pulling everything out of his ass with no concerns for continuity or plot consistence.

Where were they? sleeping.

wingdarkness · 2011-11-14, 12:30

This might be the first time Kubo pulled something out of his rectum that actually worked though...This might be the best depowering of a shonen-hero character I've ever seen...

While certainly unintentional from the start of the series, the fact that the gigai elements strictly overshadowed the human aspect of the show, with Ichigo's spiritual powers (hopefully his arc as a spiritual character) now gone, the focus on him having powers solely as a human gives a good cushion here to hid behind...I love the fact that he has regained his fighting instincts, but has totally lost his brute strength...So he's going to have to re-train himself all over again from a baseline of no powers (but with great intangibles) vs. training himself to fight with absurd powers (but with no discipline)...

It's a very good prospect for continuing the show while they nerf him...Very impressed so far with this current arc, I can only pray we never see SS again and this can be the show until the end...Because (Minus only the abundance of fight-porn) this is the better show...

Guido · 2011-11-15, 20:10

To be honest, I felt this new arc a rehash and dragging things to absurd levels. Ichigo puts me on the nerves with his blunt and intransigent attitude of his.

It feels the whole plot is moving in circles while frozen in a standstill, and I don't see why they should continue on with the story when everything concluded with a craze impact at the end of Aizen's defeat.

Now, as the user in the previous post mentioned, what makes for an interesting redemption to this arc is that with his powers gone Ichigo's back to square one. Has the ferocity but not powers anymore to fend off even against the ordinary Hollow that almost ate his sisters.
This situation provides for more dramatic angst, and forces Ichigo about his current state with patience to hold him down.

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2011-11-08, 13:25	Link #1
sayde Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Bleach Episode 347 Discussion Thread [Anime-Only] Welcome to this week's episode discussion thread. Bleach Forum RULES... DO NOT ASK where to download RAWs or Fansubs... and DO NOT MENTION fansub group names... For further information please visit the Bleach Licensed! Ask for it = Ban thread Thread Guidelines... Absolutely no manga spoilers in any anime-only threads such as the weekly Episode Discussion threads. That means, no hints, or vague remarks about a future event from the manga, even within the spoiler tags. Inability to observe this rule will result in a BAN! Discuss your expectations of this episode if it hasn't aired yet. Be polite to your fellow forum members. Do not vote before the episode has been "released". Try to keep the discussion on topic. Everyone is encouraged to use the report post button if these rules are broken. The button is located in the left hand corner, at the bottom of every user name. It will notify a moderator who will deal with such post according to the rules. A Creeping Danger in the Kurosaki Family?! Ichigo's Confusion! - 黒崎家に忍び寄る危機！？一護の迷い！ ~ Kurosaki-ka ni shinobiyoru kiki!? Ichigo no mayoi!. Next episode: Power of the Substitute Badge, Ichigo's "Pride"! - 代行証の力、一護の“誇り”！ ~ Daikōshō no chikara, Ichigo no "hokori"!.

2011-11-09, 09:07	Link #6
FlareKnight User of the "Fast Draw" Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada	That hollow was definitely effective in getting things done. He might be able to live without his powers but seeing his sister nearly killed is another thing entirely. Plus can at least guess the one guy tailing Ichigo is part of a different group though their objective is still hard to guess at. Things moving along while keeping a bit of comical stuff like Ichigo getting tailed by that tsundere . __________________ Anime-Evo

2011-11-09, 09:30	Link #7
Aqua Knight Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Age: 31	The guy with long hair, not Ginjo, is really creepy. Yeah, and fighting Hollow bare handed is badass. __________________ I can’t sleep tonight…fish girl, sing me a song!

2011-11-13, 06:57	Link #17
ookamigirl Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	Ichigo still troubled by everything happening around him.. Guess, he won't have any peace until he gets some power and takes his life into his own hands. __________________ My Blog --> ookami

2011-11-08, 15:14	Link #2
Kafriel Senior Guest Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Athens (GMT+2) Age: 35	Much better than last week, new music scores, bits of plot and Ichigo's decision to hear Ginjou out...but the omake was funny as hell...don't lose it again

2011-11-08, 18:52	Link #3
Kookee2k2 OBJECTION! Join Date: Mar 2010	the omake was great too and the part where Ichigo had to deal with a hollow was also just awesome, reminded me of alot when Chad fought one the first time (just a whole lot less 'lol')

2011-11-08, 19:08	Link #4
sergel02 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	I got new music and a lot of Yuzu, so I'm happy.

2011-11-09, 08:39	Link #5
Aiizen Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2011	Ahh so good to have an affirmative on him wanting his powers back! Seeing him fight the hollow was awesome too. Looking forward to next week!

2011-11-12, 09:20	Link #8
DmonHiro Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Romania Age: 37	As you will soon see, these Xecution guys are VERY powerful. So... where the hell were they when Aizen was rampaging? How come Soul Society never even mentioned such powerful individuals? How come Aizen never mentioned such powerful individuals? Reality bending is a power that would get the attention of both sides. Short answer: Kubo is pulling everything out of his ass with no concerns for continuity or plot consistence.

2011-11-12, 09:35	Link #9
sayde Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	I'd like to properly respond to that point, but bringing up future events from the manga isn't allowed. As the OP states, even hints or vague remarks aren't okay. So it'd be bad to discuss that here. You might want to either reword the post or delete it before a mod sees it. You can also feel free to repost that message in this weeks chapter thread if you'd like to discuss it further.

2011-11-12, 12:14	Link #10
DmonHiro Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Romania Age: 37	What are you talking about? What spoilers? The reality bending part? They're already doing that. They can change one thing into another. That's reality bending.

2011-11-12, 13:20	Link #12
DmonHiro Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Romania Age: 37	Well... reality bending IS a very powerful ability, isn't it? And they haven't even introduced all of them (Like the guy with the book,, whatever his story is)

2011-11-12, 13:52	Link #14
DmonHiro Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Romania Age: 37	Kito Kubo use the potential for a very cheap technique? Why, that would be so unexpected my head might explode.... I WILL admit an Ichigo who's lost his cool is fun to watch.

2011-11-12, 15:10	Link #16
DmonHiro Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Romania Age: 37	Case in point, Aizen should have technically WON, considering his Shikai power. If used properly, there would be no way to defeat him. The only real reason he lost was because: 1. He never tried using it on Ichigo. 2. He stopped using it anyway.

2011-11-14, 12:30	Link #19
wingdarkness Retweet Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: ニュー・オーリンズ、LA	This might be the first time Kubo pulled something out of his rectum that actually worked though...This might be the best depowering of a shonen-hero character I've ever seen... While certainly unintentional from the start of the series, the fact that the gigai elements strictly overshadowed the human aspect of the show, with Ichigo's spiritual powers (hopefully his arc as a spiritual character) now gone, the focus on him having powers solely as a human gives a good cushion here to hid behind...I love the fact that he has regained his fighting instincts, but has totally lost his brute strength...So he's going to have to re-train himself all over again from a baseline of no powers (but with great intangibles) vs. training himself to fight with absurd powers (but with no discipline)... It's a very good prospect for continuing the show while they nerf him...Very impressed so far with this current arc, I can only pray we never see SS again and this can be the show until the end...Because (Minus only the abundance of fight-porn) this is the better show... __________________ Fly since ↔...

2011-11-15, 20:10	Link #20
Guido Snobby Gentleman Join Date: May 2004 Location: Monterrey, México Age: 43	To be honest, I felt this new arc a rehash and dragging things to absurd levels. Ichigo puts me on the nerves with his blunt and intransigent attitude of his. It feels the whole plot is moving in circles while frozen in a standstill, and I don't see why they should continue on with the story when everything concluded with a craze impact at the end of Aizen's defeat. Now, as the user in the previous post mentioned, what makes for an interesting redemption to this arc is that with his powers gone Ichigo's back to square one. Has the ferocity but not powers anymore to fend off even against the ordinary Hollow that almost ate his sisters. This situation provides for more dramatic angst, and forces Ichigo about his current state with patience to hold him down.