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golgo13 · 2010-09-22, 22:11

haha i guess i didn't read all the posts..

trafalgarcito · 2010-09-22, 22:17

wont be just too much for luffy a kid...would just kill the nakama moments...or not? as long as the baby is left behind to be tken care of...but of course if he makes a "promise" to come back to the child it would be lame and he would take force from his kids and not so much of the mamoruing his nakamas...wich is the esscence of the series as higlighted in last chapter...wich brings me to the point, what about zoro? why does he consider luffy to be such a good friend to even let go his own pride?? did we get an answer of that?

luffy gave a present to all of them, and because of a feeling of grattitude for being there when they needed most, they now realize that what is best for luffy is the same best for everybody and for themselves...improving what they love and what they are best at for the sake of everything in their lives.... its like how college is supposed to feel i gues...

nami: gave her freedom to be herself...peace of the material problems of life (like a husband...lol)
sanji: provided him the means to fulfill his dream in the best possible way...(if you wanna cook great you need to love the people who are eating it???)
chopper: gave him his first friend and academic encourage
ussop: acceptance of his defects...tolerance to grow
robin: gave her the feeling of love...the feeling of a family
franky: gave him hope for a better future..and a new beggining into his old but in the end, true dreams
brook: just a sense of care, of touch, when you needed it the most...

so what about zoro...i cant think what he got from luffy besides being a friend in the plain sense (someone who doesnt cheats you and supports you)

golgo13 · 2010-09-22, 22:51

i think he gave him a captain. zoro likes to follow, or maybe be loyal to someone.

Hisoka?? · 2010-09-22, 23:10

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Originally Posted by Ryuuchi

That's like having actual ninja assassinations in Naruto to make the term ninja accurate and pure sword fights in Bleach to make the term samurai accurate...not gonna happen by this point xD

Well, I hold and perceive One Piece to be of higher standards than those 2 mangas. I still hold some hope with the "new" ship and the fact that the new world seems to be more of pirate vs pirates which means likely battles at sea.

AdventSleeper · 2010-09-22, 23:33

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Originally Posted by Bari_Phillis

Well at this point I think we know exactly how long it takes for people to lose interest in talking about an upcoming chapter lol. Seems like everyone's pretty much tuned out at this point and are just waiting in a corner.

Imagine if One Piece was a monthly manga like some other popular series out there...

Hisoka?? · 2010-09-23, 00:37

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Originally Posted by golgo13

i think he gave him a captain. zoro likes to follow, or maybe be loyal to someone.

luff gave zoro a place to train and sleep in + a way to travel in a somewhat planned fashion. Imagine Zoro was still travelling alone. He would not only be hopelessly lost, he would also be too busy handling the ship, cooking, etc.

Lukrin · 2010-09-23, 00:45

other than that luffy believed in zoro and they went through so much stuff together
and zoro saw luffy's strength and willpower plus he saved his life when he met him
and luffy always trust and protects his crew so thats enough for zoro to respect luffy

Hisoka?? · 2010-09-23, 03:28

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Originally Posted by Lukrin

other than that luffy believed in zoro and they went through so much stuff together
and zoro saw luffy's strength and willpower plus he saved his life when he met him
and luffy always trust and protects his crew so thats enough for zoro to respect luffy

I think we're talking about something special like the rest of the crew has. The strength and will power part is to all of them and doesn't fulfill a special niche per se.

Besides, there are plenty other captains that could protect or trust.

My take is Zorro stays on not because of luffy but because he knows luffy is an idiot and he needs to take care of the crew. sort of like he is the second captain of the ship and it's responsibility to take care of his nakama whom he is fond of.

I guess the lack of any special bond or need fulfilled could be a precursor to zorro breaking off to go on his own or form his own crew for a while.

DonnVall · 2010-09-23, 03:41

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Originally Posted by trafalgarcito

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luffy gave a present to all of them, and because of a feeling of grattitude for being there when they needed most, they now realize that what is best for luffy is the same best for everybody and for themselves...improving what they love and what they are best at for the sake of everything in their lives.... its like how college is supposed to feel i gues...
...

You do remember that it was Kuma who sent them wherever they are now, right? Proper credit, please!

paradox13 · 2010-09-23, 10:23

this is starting to hurt a bit...

Wargumm1i · 2010-09-23, 14:34

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Originally Posted by Hisoka??

My take is Zorro stays on not because of luffy but because he knows luffy is an idiot and he needs to take care of the crew. sort of like he is the second captain of the ship and it's responsibility to take care of his nakama whom he is fond of.

I guess the lack of any special bond or need fulfilled could be a precursor to zorro breaking off to go on his own or form his own crew for a while.

I have to disagree with you there, Its true Zoro ones threatened to leave the crew if Luffy dared to treat there journey so easily and forget that despite everyones kind attitude, as Luffy was willing to let Usopp back into the crew despite the selfishness that Usopp did when the argument about the ship happent.

But yes I does feel he needs too hold a firm ground and take responsability and take into notes that Luffy is an idiot, and he has too keep an eye out for things. I guess its not weird at all since he is First mate and Swordsman of the crew.

AceD · 2010-09-23, 17:00

Zoro would of gave is his life at Thriller Bark for Luffy to live, there bond is strong...

TrueElements · 2010-09-23, 18:38

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Originally Posted by AmIaNeRd

Imagine if One Piece was a monthly manga like some other popular series out there...

-sigh-.... D.Grayman

ashesatdusk · 2010-09-23, 20:20

1 more week guys. I'm wondering if I can survive with out spoilers... I really want to this time.

ordinarystory · 2010-09-23, 21:44

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Originally Posted by ordinarystory

I agree that Luffy and his crew is still weak and they are far from dominating the one piece world because they are still young (Luffy, Zoro, and Sanji are still teenagers) and they haven't got enough experience.

But I have a theory for this situation: After this war Oda will make a time jump such that Luffy and his crew will reunite after a couple of years in which all the crew become stronger and mature; and gain experience. The crew is sent to islands where they need to face off their weakest points but this is not enough they need to grow up also.

Also Oda mentioned that the one piece world will not be same after this war (lots of things will change) thus this war is an appropriate place to make a time jump for the Strawhat crew.

I also want to see Garp in action. We still dont know whether Garp is DF user and I think Garp can be a monkey type Zoan user because his name starts with monkey.

Oda did the same thing that I thought before. I think we are in the same line

Poetic Justice · 2010-09-24, 01:15

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Originally Posted by paradox13

this is starting to hurt a bit...

One piece withdrawal symptoms are tough man.

TrueElements · 2010-09-24, 02:39

What if,.......... now stay with me on this one, what if, when it returns they try to put a real love plot in the story instead of Hancock wants to rape luffy scenario.

I mean if their was a LuffyXNami half the world would lose it instantly.

Cub-Sama · 2010-09-24, 11:29

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Originally Posted by TrueElements

What if,.......... now stay with me on this one, what if, when it returns they try to put a real love plot in the story instead of Hancock wants to rape luffy scenario.

I mean if their was a LuffyXNami half the world would lose it instantly.

Keep dreaming, most shonen love plots amount to they all love him but he would rather fight big muscly men than you know bang any of the potential female love interests

Wrath88 · 2010-09-24, 11:30

Nah, he'd prefer to eat lots and lots and lots of meat over either of those 2, Cub-Sama.

Bari_Phillis · 2010-09-25, 13:43

Challenge time! Re-read from chapter 1, go!

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trafalgarcito Member Join Date: Nov 2009	wont be just too much for luffy a kid...would just kill the nakama moments...or not? as long as the baby is left behind to be tken care of...but of course if he makes a "promise" to come back to the child it would be lame and he would take force from his kids and not so much of the mamoruing his nakamas...wich is the esscence of the series as higlighted in last chapter...wich brings me to the point, what about zoro? why does he consider luffy to be such a good friend to even let go his own pride?? did we get an answer of that? luffy gave a present to all of them, and because of a feeling of grattitude for being there when they needed most, they now realize that what is best for luffy is the same best for everybody and for themselves...improving what they love and what they are best at for the sake of everything in their lives.... its like how college is supposed to feel i gues... nami: gave her freedom to be herself...peace of the material problems of life (like a husband...lol) sanji: provided him the means to fulfill his dream in the best possible way...(if you wanna cook great you need to love the people who are eating it???) chopper: gave him his first friend and academic encourage ussop: acceptance of his defects...tolerance to grow robin: gave her the feeling of love...the feeling of a family franky: gave him hope for a better future..and a new beggining into his old but in the end, true dreams brook: just a sense of care, of touch, when you needed it the most... so what about zoro...i cant think what he got from luffy besides being a friend in the plain sense (someone who doesnt cheats you and supports you) Last edited by trafalgarcito; 2010-09-22 at 22:38.

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Lukrin Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Behind You!	other than that luffy believed in zoro and they went through so much stuff together and zoro saw luffy's strength and willpower plus he saved his life when he met him and luffy always trust and protects his crew so thats enough for zoro to respect luffy Last edited by Lukrin; 2010-09-23 at 01:18.

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golgo13 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: cali	haha i guess i didn't read all the posts..

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golgo13 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: cali	i think he gave him a captain. zoro likes to follow, or maybe be loyal to someone.

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Wrath88 Kissing... Join Date: Dec 2005	Nah, he'd prefer to eat lots and lots and lots of meat over either of those 2, Cub-Sama. __________________ Okairii, Nerine-chan

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