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Old 2009-07-28, 14:34   Link #21
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tsunami? Not much of a threat shouldn't it? Considering Aokiji can just freeze it and who knows what Akainu can do.
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Whitebeard has a devil fruit and Luffy knew all along Ace and him were not blood brothers.

That was actually confirmed in the previous chapter.
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Old 2009-07-28, 14:46   Link #23
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That was actually confirmed in the previous chapter.
Yeah I know, my point of reused information..again.


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Nah, The Government would still be good..It's Dragon they got to worry about.
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Old 2009-07-28, 14:51   Link #24
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Yeah I know, my point of reused information..again.
I can see what the author is doing here, as well as with the DF of WB... (is not that bad to state the obvious), even in Naruto and Bleach you see this happening a lot.

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Old 2009-07-28, 15:07   Link #25
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i also heard tht he might have a sound df
Suits apoo the rapper better.But who knows.Sound signal vibration logia body sounds interesting.
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Old 2009-07-28, 15:41   Link #26
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Nah, The Government would still be good..It's Dragon they got to worry about.
What the hell are you talking about?
You really think they can handle Whitebeard's power, along with the Dark King and Rayleigh?

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tsunami? Not much of a threat shouldn't it? Considering Aokiji can just freeze it and who knows what Akainu can do.
I dont think he freezed the whole thing.
If so, Akainu wouldn't had haft to step in
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Old 2009-07-28, 15:49   Link #27
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What the hell are you talking about?
You really think they can handle Whitebeard's power, along with the Dark King and Rayleigh?


Uh, the Dark King IS Rayleigh.



Anyway, I think his point is that those two guys don't really have any beef with the government like Whitebeard and Dragon currently do. Yes, they could attempt to rescue their former captain's son themselves, but it's not really necessary since his surrogate father is already doing just that, with additional backup from his own crew and allies from the New World.



Edit: By the way, I'm pretty sure that Whitebeard's power is something that Oda had planned for a good while, now. Notice that his fruit has the same name as his laugh (gurararara).......

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Old 2009-07-28, 17:31   Link #28
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Anyway, I think his point is that those two guys don't really have any beef with the government like Whitebeard and Dragon currently do. Yes, they could attempt to rescue their former captain's son themselves, but it's not really necessary since his surrogate father is already doing just that, with additional backup from his own crew and allies from the New World.
Yes, but this could very well be the thing that Kuma whispered to Rayleigh back at Sabody. That moment just screamed "foreshadowing!" and this current war is the biggest possible thing that could have been alluded to. Added to that, Kuma is the most trusted Shichibukai, that also has a great spy network (of some kind), so it is entirely possible that Kuma could have known Ace's heritage (which he is not seen wondering about in the previous chapter) so he decided to give the info to Rayleigh (who may or may not give it to other former Roger nakama).
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Old 2009-07-28, 18:03   Link #29
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What the hell are you talking about?
You really think they can handle Whitebeard's power, along with the Dark King and Rayleigh?
Yeah, the Government built this shindig for Whitebeard, Dragon and whoever else wants to come. They got the power and the trump card for anyone else that wants some, it's in the story.

Like Marvelb said though, Silvers and Shanks really don't have a reason to come..But then again James makes a good point, with Kuma whispering schemes into Silvers ear, who knows. So I think it's best to believe the doors of hell are open to everybody.

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Old 2009-07-28, 19:03   Link #30
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Uh, the Dark King IS Rayleigh.
I meant, Dark King Rayleigh and Shanks.

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Yeah, the Government built this shindig for Whitebeard, Dragon and whoever else wants to come. They got the power and the trump card for anyone else that wants some, it's in the story.
Please explain what's the trump card?
Because I don't see any. Until Sengoku and Akainu's powers are revealed, the World Government has their hands full. For Rayleigh and Shanks to show up, it would be too much from how I see it.

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But then again, I see what you're saying (kind of). Mihawk and Shanks are equals so if Shanks do show may be we can get a taste of what these battles between that "shook all of the grand line" were like. And I also shouldn't underestimate the Vice-Admirals, being as though Garp is a Vice-Admiral and fought evenly with the Pirate King Gol D. Roger.

[Side Note: This makes me a little curious about Kaidou also, like what kind of power he must have to feel confident enough to attack Whitebeard (even if it was from behind)]
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^^Trump card is Marshall D. Teach.

I really do hope this Tsunami by Whitebeard blows Luffy's ship away.
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Old 2009-07-28, 22:10   Link #32
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^Where was Luffy's ship in the convoy, anyway?
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Old 2009-07-28, 22:40   Link #33
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New chapter sounds awesome, as usual.

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^^Trump card is Marshall D. Teach.

I really do hope this Tsunami by Whitebeard blows Luffy's ship away.

Did the tsunami destroy the other pirate ships?
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It appears that the government gave Ace an offer for Shichibukai position once. Now if they really want him dead, why would they...?
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It appears that the government gave Ace an offer for Shichibukai position once. Now if they really want him dead, why would they...?
For the lulz...

Seriously, they have all the spots filled, so there is no need for Ace anymore....
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^Where was Luffy's ship in the convoy, anyway?
In Oda's hands

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Did the tsunami destroy the other pirate ships?
I don't think so, most likely the Tsunami is just attacking the Marines.
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Old 2009-07-28, 23:15   Link #36
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It appears that the government gave Ace an offer for Shichibukai position once. Now if they really want him dead, why would they...?
Because they didn't know he was Gold Roger's son back then?
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Old 2009-07-28, 23:21   Link #37
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Also im pretty sure Akainu's power has something to do with fire, Perhaps it really is lava.
Aokiji the blue pheasent, Kizaru the yellow monkey and Akainu the Red Dog. See a pattern here?
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Old 2009-07-28, 23:32   Link #38
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Y Added to that, Kuma is the most trusted Shichibukai, that also has a great spy network (of some kind), so it is entirely possible that Kuma could have known Ace's heritage (which he is not seen wondering about in the previous chapter) so he decided to give the info to Rayleigh (who may or may not give it to other former Roger nakama).
Always possible but I find it rather doubtful when he even had to confirm with Nami whether Ace was Luffy's brother or not. Makes me think he didn't knew about Ace's background at all though Whitebeard figured it out and the WG so it's perfectly possible.

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^Where was Luffy's ship in the convoy, anyway?
Sunk bye WB's fleet! Who can blame them, a marine ship was comming :P .
Probably just a bit late cause the gates seemed to open more or less simultanious as when WB made his appearance. Comming late always leaves an impression.

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I really do hope this Tsunami by Whitebeard blows Luffy's ship away.
How can you want Luffy to sit this out? I could understand that you think this war just seems to high lvl for Luffy to participate in but this is Luffy we're talking about. Our cool protagonist that I expect/hope to do something extra-ordinary which will stun the world yet again. Can't wait to see what it'll be even if it doesn't tip the war in WB's favor.
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How can you want Luffy to sit this out? I could understand that you think this war just seems to high lvl for Luffy to participate in but this is Luffy we're talking about. Our cool protagonist that I expect/hope to do something extra-ordinary which will stun the world yet again. Can't wait to see what it'll be even if it doesn't tip the war in WB's favor.
Luffy is not cool, Zoro is cool.
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Whitebeard's a dead man walking, Showing off his power like that so recklessly. I'm still holding out that Civil War Buddha has plan. He has to have some trick, knowing that Whitebeared would be coming.

I gotta say though, I am impressed with WB's immense power.
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