2012-04-22, 11:44 | Link #2001 | |
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Yeah, his phone changes, but not showing them reunite downgrades the entire ending. Not to mention, they could've, at the very least, had Yuno's voice cry out for Yuki in the end instead of having her name there and then ending it. I doubt any special episodes released after this will address the ending. Don't get me wrong, it was a great series and it had a lot of different genres working well together, but the ending described previously, where they are seen reuniting, would have made the series better if that had been shown. |
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2012-04-22, 13:01 | Link #2002 |
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Count me in as one of many who didn't really like this ending. I already had myself spoiled via Wikipedia months ago, so I expected a true happy ending, which I think would have been perfect, considering what all the characters have gone through.
Yeah, I get it, Yuki was pretty much a loser throughout the show, but was it really necessary to end it all with him being all miserable and unwilling to do anything and only hint at the true ending? Don't get me wrong, I still think the show itself was great, but had they gone with the true ending, it would've been pretty much perfect. Oh well, maybe if I rewatch it some day, I'll grow to appreciate the ending more.
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2012-04-22, 16:06 | Link #2003 |
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I don't like the true ending because of the fact that it feels a bit forced just for the sake of having a happy ending. Basically, it feels like a happy ending that was pulled out of someone's ass. I also don't sit well with the two people who did the most horrible things pulling a Karma Houdini. The anime ending is a little more ambiguous in the case of Yukiteru, but even implying it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Kill everyone you care about, replace them with alternate world counterparts! I find it amusing that after all of that work trying to save the second world, they just leave it barren in the end.
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2012-04-22, 23:02 | Link #2005 | |
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And the hammer. And then the fact that they get a happy ending for being terrible people, especially Yukki, since most people didn't like him and he did nothing for 10,000 years. Aaand that Deus just kinda goes "herpadurrr you ugys can be god together now". Here are the final manga pages: http://mangafox.me/manga/mirai_nikki/v12/c059/35.html Now, I didn't dislike the ending, an I was happy there was a good ending, but it was done kind of ridiculously still. They did. It was really quiet, but right after the diary changes, turn your volume up a LOT. I didn't notice it when I saw the raw, but when I saw the subs said "Yukki", I had to check. Turning it up showed she did say it. |
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2012-04-23, 02:43 | Link #2006 |
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Well, I agree with you for the most part, except for the Yuki and Yuno being terrible people part. This Yuno was never a murderer, but she could have had a happy ending with HER Yuki. And then there's Yuki, who I guess did become a terrible human being, but I felt sorry for him rather than hate him. I still feel that he DOES NOT deserve a happy ending though.
It's just my opinion, but I think that if you're grasping for a happy ending, it's better not to write a happy ending at all. In fact, if Yuki were to end up in a paradise made by him, without the company of his loved ones to share it with, I think there would have been a fitting yet tragic lesson learned there since he was the one that brought it upon himself (...and it's better than leaving the second world as a barren wasteland after spending that much time trying to save it from collapsing). Just my two cents. Also, I find it weird that Yuki is OK with being with an alternate version of the girl he fell in love with (with fake implanted memories) when he seemed pretty appalled at Yuno's plan of replacing him with the Third Yuki. Despite the ending, I did enjoy the series for what it was. Here's my thoughts on the ending and the series as a whole. http://theotakuspot.animeblogger.net...l-impressions/
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2012-04-23, 05:17 | Link #2008 |
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Yes, they are. They were real to the person they belonged to. But those memories don't belong to the current Yuno because she didn't make them. They belonged to the dead one. That's what I meant by "fake" because they are obviously real just by the literal fact that they exist. Maybe "false' memories would be a better term for it.
Suppose I somehow implanted memories of my childhood onto you. Just because they were real events that happened to me doesn't make them genuine memories that belong to you. Genuine memories are memories you make yourself. And just because you have my memories doesn't make you me. A copy, maybe, with your memories included. And in this case, that's what the Third World Yuno is being treated as. A replacement goldfish with memories that don't belong to her.
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Aside from what I already said, Yuno1 wanted to kill Yukki2 to move on to Yukki3, whereas Yuno1 was already dead before Yuno3 came to Yukki2. And he spent 10000 years alone with Murmur, just staring at that text, so frankly, he'd probably be okay with anything (er.. not just anything, but I mean any sort of Yuno, real, fake, copied, memory-less, whatever) at that point. |
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That is my preferred happy ending though, compared to the real one. Realistically I would have been all for Yuki ending up with someone else and showing that sometimes, even though I like that pairing, couples like that will only ever meet in those screwed up situations. I wouldn't mind a happy ending either if it didn't feel as forced as the way Esuno wrote it. And I sure hope he doesn't pull that crap again in Big Order. Quote:
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Of course, I'm just mainly bothered by how much of cheap resurrection it is and how it seemed like Yuki had his last few pages of happiness served onto a silver platter, while his friends who tried their best to help him ended up being killed by him. And after he had a chance to redeem himself by stopping the world-hopping and saving the Second World where they all used to live in... he just puts it to no good use and abandons it, putting Yuno's suicide in vain. Quote:
Quoting myself in my blog post, "I guess the killing of all the Yunos was the only thing that bothered him… the more Yunos, the better, I guess?" lol I do know that Minene really is using the Third World Nishijima as a replacement goldfish though. lol
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...we just get about two seconds of screen time showing Yukki with what's-her-name instead of any actual exploration of the concept. Quote:
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2012-04-25, 03:36 | Link #2015 | |
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My point is, if the Second World could have meant less to either of them... why end the game? It would have been alright if Yuki actually did something with it, but he didn't. Yuno killed herself for nothing, when they could have both just said "screw it" to the Second World and lived in the Third World.
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2012-04-25, 04:59 | Link #2016 |
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emm...do i have this right?....
1st world is destroyed....2nd world yuno died....1 world yuno died but memory planted in 3rd world yuno...?..is that it? also...i dont really like the anime ending...they could just add an extra 30 second to show 3rd world yuno smashing the place Yukki is in with a hammer and become gods together in the 3rd world.... ps:i have one big question...who the hell is the 3rd world Yukki is with?..that girl with the spec??i dont recall seeing her at all.....which episode??? |
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Yuno followed the two of them disguised in a freaky rabbit costume, how could you forget?
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Maybe bodies can only be copied at the same age they were at? I find it weird that the world was still there when Yukki won, stopped getting eaten away, yet disappeared later on anyway. Wouldn't that first part show that only a god's presence was needed for the world to exist? Why did it go away then? Quote:
I agree, it should've been louder.. I honestly couldn't hear it without knowing it was there. |
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