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View Poll Results: Do you feel sorry for Orihime? | |||
Yes | 93 | 28.88% | |
A little | 36 | 11.18% | |
Hell no | 121 | 37.58% | |
Meh other characters have suffered more. | 65 | 20.19% | |
Other | 7 | 2.17% | |
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2009-02-20, 23:43 | Link #141 |
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I thought it was directed at me since yours was the only response I got & being as hungry for a response from someone/anyone, I intentionally took the bait
Sure, I could, if you would point out where exactly you feel she went wrong since I really find all of her behaviour pre/mid/after SS/HM arc very consistent with her character. If you can point out to me the irregularities you find in her behaviour, then I can explain to you why I dont deem them as irregularities? |
2009-02-21, 07:07 | Link #143 |
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I actually feel terrible for her...she's lost any sort of dignity after what the Espada and Aizen have put her through (especially Nnoi coughfingerscough).
And of all things, people never stop getting angry at her for acting as the timid person she is, so it seems like she's hated by a lot of Bleach fans as well as mistreated in the story itself. I could only imagine how she'd feel if she were a real person :/ Every time I see her I just hope for her time coming soon, when she'll finally stop appearing "useless" and direct the plot in some way. Remember what Hacchi told her, "Remember that it's never 'how it should be,' it's 'how do you want it to be.'" Foreshadowing plzzzz |
2009-02-21, 08:58 | Link #144 | |
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There are times I feel sorry for Orihime, it goes back to a point I made a while back:
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2009-02-21, 11:18 | Link #146 |
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You're ignoring so much information. Inoue has decided to be as cooperative as possible to make them "like" her, so that they won't go back on their word and kill her friends. I highly suggest you go back and actually read her dialogue rather than skipping/skimming through them.
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2009-02-21, 13:23 | Link #147 | |
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Then, they entered the Soul Society and she lost all appeal to me due to the lack of true character development. Granted, the very start of the HM arc (particularly vol. 24 - 27) had some good development and some scenes with Ulquiorra had good development as well, but now it's almost nonexistant. That's why I no longer feel bad for Orihime.
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2009-02-21, 14:28 | Link #148 | |
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2009-02-22, 00:25 | Link #150 | ||
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Pretty much all the bleach characters are dancing to Aizen's tune, Orihime isnt an exception to this rule. |
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2009-02-22, 00:38 | Link #151 | |
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2009-02-22, 01:14 | Link #153 | |
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2009-02-22, 02:54 | Link #154 | |
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Also Hacchi did not tell her "she can fight if she chooses to beforehand." He said "I too can not recommend that you fight. If your powers are like mine then you are not suited for fighting, especially when your opponents are the arrancar." and "You have not yet mastered your own abilities surely there is a means for you to fight. Please keep this in mind. Whats important is not "how it should be" but rather "how do you want it to be"" These statments a) show he does not thing her powers are good for combat, b) he thinks she should be able to fight with them but does not realy know how, and c) hints a little at how her powers work before Azien told her. Thats almost completely opisite of what you stated. Others have already pointed out the free will thing and again I will remind you that sofar everyone has been danceing to Azein's tune and they are even more likely to if they tink they are going against him as shinji found out.
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2009-02-22, 06:22 | Link #155 | |
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For all we know, that guy-fairy (Tsubaki? I really suck at remembering the names) she launched at Yammy is only capable of using a shield to cut an opponent, nothing more. I believe the same fairies that are used to "heal" people (as many call it) are the ones used for phenomenon rejection because THEY were the ones analyzed by Ulquiorra, and later Aizen. The guy who got crushed was never technically analyzed when Yammy and Ulquiorra initially arrived to KK town. Furthermore, phenomenon rejection means she would have to choose the specific phenomenon to reject. She can "heal" because she denies that the person ever got hurt. She can reject the hougyoku's existence by denying that it was ever created. However, denying a hollow's birth just seems much much more complex, as she even knows who created the Hougyoku, and has known since Aizen's explanation at Soukyoku Hill. However, I do agree with you, though it's because we don't know whether she can reject a living being "out of existence." We just know she wanted to reject the Hougyoku. I do think it's been hinted that she can be very useful in the front lines of battle, but she's eons of character development away from this point. Just like Ichigo, she doesn't understand the full extent of her powers she can access, and I hope that all the foreshadowing we've gotten won't be for nil in the end :/ Last edited by Glacial; 2009-02-22 at 07:03. |
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2009-02-22, 06:35 | Link #156 |
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That is incorrect Tsubaki is the only one who can reject BOTH inside and outside the barrier. His attack power depends on Orihime. Its because she has no intent to kill, he fails as an attack. She isn't a fighter..so she can't use him properly. He has to be launched with the intent to kill not sting ...
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2009-02-22, 06:42 | Link #157 | |
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43, page 15 right? Tsubaki said he can "split the enemy into two," that's not the same as rejecting existence. Longer version is: he can "break through the enemy, put a shield up, and 'repel' the combined substance" I'm gonna have to defend by saying that repelling a substance is not the same as rejecting it out of existence, and this is evidenced by him calling it "splitting the enemy in two." Now I'll admit we know a little more than what I said we do know because of this, but it still does not mean Tsubaki has the power to reject a living being out of existence. Additionally, the time it worked, we clearly see he slashed through a hollow's mask, and then it died as a normal hollow would, which further supports what I'm saying Last edited by Glacial; 2009-02-22 at 07:05. |
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2009-02-22, 07:12 | Link #158 |
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I pity her as much as I feel sorry for her.
I'm in agreement with Kakashi's PoV. Glacial: Spoiler for For Glacial:
I felt like reading a few of the shorter more interesting arcs this afternoon, and tbh I think Orihime had some of her best cool points for fighting in the 'Princess and Dragon' arc (chp 41-43). I think she probably just needs the correct motivation to protect stuff, Ichigo confuses her too much emotionally, Tatsuki was 'just' a friend so she didn't hesitate at all. Although admittedly at the moment there are other factors limiting her. She did look cool back then (first pic)... and it was a long time before she pulled that off again, well something close to it (second pic). Definitely has more fighting spirit in the first pic (before all her dreams were squashed). Spoiler for First Panel:
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2009-02-22, 12:55 | Link #159 | |
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2009-02-22, 16:04 | Link #160 | ||||
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No, I do not feel sorry for her. Her life is no more tragic than many other characters in Bleach, let alone other anime series, let alone other fiction, let alone real life.
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Strength comes from conviction, belief in yourself and belief in others. Orihime has no such strength. She is timid and angsty. Her one sided 'love'? No, that isn't love. It is a 15 year old's crush. Her crush is just annoying. Her character also lack's a lot of good qualities in a literary sense. She has barely done anything apart from being kidnapped. And considering how much page/screen time she has gotten... If you want poorly written emotional and love issues as well as plenty of angst, read Twilight of something.
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