2011-08-03, 15:13 | Link #82 | |
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As far as intelligence goes, though, Kabuto is definitely up there. |
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2011-08-03, 15:14 | Link #83 | |
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Morally and ethically, Itachi was not a good guy. But he was a product of the ninja system. He was at least more of a realist then Naruto. Naruto thinks happy talk can still bring Sasuke back while Itachi was just going to bleep his mind over. No different than what Madara wants to do to the world.
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It's guaranteed Itachi is going to go nuts trying to stop Nagato. If he loses Naruto, then he loses Sasuke. So him "dying" against Nagato fulfills his wish since it protects Naruto. Who can then save Sasuke. This whole war is a bunch of stitched together moments and fanservice. Kishimoto is just checking down the list. |
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2011-08-03, 15:15 | Link #84 |
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We feared that the power of Itachi and Nagato will be downplayed too much, but what is happening is exactly the opposite, for the first time in this manga they used their full power, we have never seen Nagato and Itachi having a serious fight with anyone, either they owned their opponent in a few seconds (for example Itachi beating Orochi and Deidara effortlessly without even using MS) or they restrained their power for some reason (Nagato trying to not kill Naruto, and also being half disabled during the fight).
Kishimoto has introduced an artifical limitation again, it's becoming kinda lame how obvious is that he introduces such limitation only to be broken by the hero at the begining of a chapter which comes after a chapter that ended in a cliffhanger where the hero was about to be killed. The last time he didn't even give an explanation of how can Naruto overcome the limitation of not being able to use kage bunshin while in kyuubi-mode. Why did he introduce the limitation if he never used it in the plot? Or maybe it will be revealed later... However this limitation and Nagato being given eyes by Madara can have a connection, if Madara gave some sharingan eye to Nagato so that it becomes a rinnegan, and if the sharingan eye stored in Naruto comes in interaction with Naruto's Uzumaki blood/chakra/whatever, then that can be the key to break the 10 years limit. It could even display some ultimate rinnegan powers if it evolves in Naruto as i assume it did in Nagato. Now it seems that the eye can't convert Sasuke, however it still is a sharingan/MS eye that can help Naruto to get out of Tsukiyomi or other genjutsu cast by Sasuke. This makes the most sense, because obviously Sasuke's conversion cannot come forcibly, his redemption must come by him willingly giving up his current thinking and helping Naruto against Madara and Kabuto. But since Madara or Kabuto may be too much for Naruto, Shisui's ultimate jutsu might come in the game after Sasuke already switched sides, that is in the end game. Now it's becomeing clear that Itachi's little talk about how to obtain the MS was bullshit, he probably lied to Sasuke in order to make him do the opposite, that is not killing his best friend We now have Kakashi (=Obito), Shisui and Itachi who obtained the MS in an unknown way. I never expected that Shisui really suicided. BTW people who keep complaining that Kabuto's Edo Tensei is a lame way to recycle already used characters should stop now: the Itachi-Nagato duo is beyond epic, if they were fighting as a real duo not controlled by anyone they would beat anyone we can think of, even when used as puppets they are epic This Uzumaki-Uchiha duo is quite epic, but we have seen Uzumaki-Uchiha being cool against Zabuza, and i'm sure against Madara we will see even more Last edited by Ero-Senn1n; 2011-08-03 at 15:50. |
2011-08-03, 15:17 | Link #85 |
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what if Kabugato pulls out Naruto's soul, but Itachi brings it back somehow ? with his Totsuka sword from Susanoo ? dunno
maybe he seals Nagato with it and Naruto's soul returns automatically edit : good points about how they got their MSes .. it's prly just a traumatic experience - death of a close friend/family etc. (Sasuke got his that way) .. Shisui died = MS for Itachi .. how Shisui got his - dunno, maybe his gf died lol ^^ Obito & Rin for Kakashi .. maybe even trauma of failing and losing Sasuke (ugh) btw Shisui's MS is kinda like instant-Inception, no ? ^^
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2011-08-03, 16:34 | Link #86 |
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shisui's eyes are pretty beastly. im a bit confused though. so how did shisui die? if itachi's order was to eliminate the uchiha clan, itachi had to kill shisui as well didnt he ? and how did someone as useless as danzou manage to take one of his eyes?
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2011-08-03, 16:58 | Link #88 |
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Hmm.. I'm predicting a quick backstab from Kabuto on Madara. It's clear Kabuto entered the war to gain dna samples, gain Sasuke, and now it looks like he wants the 8 and 9 tails to stop Madara's plan. There's no way his Zetsu army can defeat the Shinobi Army especially with Naruto, he's solely after capturing Naruto and Bee which Kabuto now has his chance at, and his six paths could all be controlled by Kabuto, possibly.
He's only got the other tailed beasts and Sasuke as an advantage. Kabuto told him how to end the iwr technique, but, unless I missed something, he easily could be lying. Also, pretty sure the genjutsu Danzo used is different than his MS genjutsu. Manipulating someone w/o them realizing only to snap out of it shortly after is a lot different than implanting someone with a whole new thought on life for good (presumably). Saying the first hokage's cells sped up the regeneration time to one day is ridiculous. The cells didn't even come close to expanding his izanagi time to anything close to that of an Uchiha. Awesome chapter though. |
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Of course, that begs the question of why Kabuto is doing that now, if they still need the Kyubi. Eh. |
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2011-08-03, 20:32 | Link #91 |
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I can only pray that Itachi can stay alive for a bit longer...how cool will it be to see Itachi kick bad guy's ass?? (Itachi should be the one to finish Kabuto once and for all)
The only down side is that, if Itachi can stay alive, Kakashi will be further downgraded..but who cares!!
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2011-08-03, 20:49 | Link #94 |
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@GDB
that would be cool, but in terms of MS, I think Kakashi is very close to his limit already..what kakashi needs imo is to master his own family technique (if any) Kakashi is quickly becoming picolo of DBZ....his role is just to come out first and find out how strong the bad guy really is...
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2011-08-03, 21:05 | Link #95 | |
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Anyway, yeah, who knows what Kabuto's plan is. For that matter, who knows what would happen if Naruto did lose his soul; would the Kyubi be stuck in his soulless body, or would the lack of a soul offer it the opportunity to escape? |
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2011-08-03, 21:15 | Link #96 | |
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2011-08-03, 21:49 | Link #98 |
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Does the Kyubi even have a soul? I don't really remember where the line between canon and fanon as it pertains to the Kyubi sits, but isn't the Kyubi described as nothing more than a mass of Chakra? In which case, I find it unlikely that it would have a soul to be taken out.
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2011-08-03, 21:51 | Link #99 |
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Badass chapter. I don't understand why itachi can't keep his mangekyo... He should either have it or have no eyeballs at all.
Nagato is rezzing himself too? Is this quickly turning into dragonball or what? Because Nagato could now Rez all sorts of people 10 tails jinchuriki = eternal dragon. The details on Shisui were much needed. I had figured that Madara was using Shisui's eye to control Sasuke. But now it explains where the other eye went (one to danzo one in naruto's crow) and leaves Madara still a mystery.
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I hope so, naruto needs an eye technique to fight sasuke and the way the mangaka has been building up eye techniques since the beginning of this manga= the only way to fight an eye technique is with another eye jutsu well it seems that way to me anyway
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