Code Geass R2 - Episode 5 Discussion / Poll

[Dann of Thursday]

Yes, antagonist is the best word since no character in this show is really a villain. Just that grey area in between.

[defrule]

I think this, somehow control the emotions from the Nunally phone call.

Next move, since Nunally will become the governer of Area 11 then this does conflict with Zero's intentions and naturally Zero would oppose this.

Continue along this line, attack Nunally the new governer and one of the following happens:

1. Suzaku will defend Nunally. Zero can manipulate Suzaku in this case.

2. Suzaku does not defend Nunally. Zero will get Nunally back and there will be no need to pretend his memories have not came back.

[Dann of Thursday]

Or Suzaku could set Lelouch up to go for Nunnally when in fact she is not there.

[Aquaman OS]

Suzaku's plan isn't too far out. Putting Nunnally as governor was also a good idea if it was him that did it. (but i doubt he'd have that authority it was probably the Emperor to mess with Lelouch and Suzaku's making the most of a bad situation.) Nunnally hopefully won't commit any genocides and he can look out for her and with his rank all the other knights have to at least hear him out.

Of course this being Geass the Diablous Ex Machina will show up and make sure something goes wrong. But it's at least a noble attempt.

[Dann of Thursday]

I doubt Suzaku set this up, though it would indicate he has become much better with being devious. I say the Emperor probably had more to do with it though.

[Theron]

Originally Posted by Irenicus

And I wouldn't mind C.C.'s fanservice half as much if she wasn't getting hurt! Goddammit Lulu you could at least be a bit more gentle with the way you remove her from the scene.

Come on, it's like a pillow - very soft. And yes, I did that thing with tomatoes once.

[FuzzyWuzzy]

Ok! realistically speaking, becoming Knight of One is really really hard and maybe even impossible. However, it is a lot easier to believe or it is a lot more probable that Suzaku will achieve his goal rather than Lelouch, realistically speaking.

Brittanians have invaded a lot of countries and they continue to do it. They practically hold the world on their hands. What can 250ish people do against an empire that great? Brittanians have more manpower, resources, vehicles, knightmares, and technology than the BKs. It's like a harmless bug trying to rise up against a human.

Originally Posted by Dann of Thursday

Yes, antagonist is the best word since no character in this show is really a villain. Just that grey area in between.

Isn't the villain, the king of Brittania.

[Dann of Thursday]

Given how much Suzaku seems to be in with everything the Emperor is up to, his shots are actually better than things would seem.

[Lugia_Tsuyu]

Originally Posted by Irenicus

And I wouldn't mind C.C.'s fanservice half as much if she wasn't getting hurt! Goddammit Lulu you could at least be a bit more gentle with the way you remove her from the scene.

I think it's probably because Lelouch thinks C.C. is immortal, so he doesn't really need to be careful about her getting hurt or something. =_=' It's just my opinion though.

[Dann of Thursday]

I doubt Lelouch cares that much because he knows she won't die. She would probably be the last person he would ever worry about.

[ashlay]

Originally Posted by Dann of Thursday

Yes, antagonist is the best word since no character in this show is really a villain. Just that grey area in between.

More like no character in the show is really a hero. >_>

[flou]

Originally Posted by Aquaman OS

Suzaku's plan isn't too far out. Putting Nunnally as governor was also a good idea if it was him that did it. (but i doubt he'd have that authority it was probably the Emperor to mess with Lelouch and Suzaku's making the most of a bad situation.) Nunnally hopefully won't commit any genocides and he can look out for her and with his rank all the other knights have to at least hear him out.

Of course this being Geass the Diablous Ex Machina will show up and make sure something goes wrong. But it's at least a noble attempt.

I think, while she had to be approved of by the Emperor, Nunnally did this of her own volition. After all, in one of the SE, it was shown Clovis actually requested the position, rather than being forced into the job. And going with Nunnally's wish to create a peaceful world, she would probably seize the opportunity herself. I'm not sure why everyone's automatically going to the Suzaku-forced-her-to-do-it option, since while he is making use of this opportunity to trap Lelouch, he doesn't have the authority to appoint someone to the role of Governor-General. He's a Knight of Rounds, but he still is just a knight.

[KrimzonStriker]

I think it's probably because Lelouch thinks C.C. is immortal, so he doesn't really need to be careful about her getting hurt or something. =_=' It's just my opinion though.

And it's not like he wanted her to get shaken up in the container, he just kind of dropped her in a bed of tomatoes, which are apparently very soft according to Theron >_>

[FuzzyWuzzy]

Originally Posted by Lugia_Tsuyu

I think it's probably because Lelouch thinks C.C. is immortal, so he doesn't really need to be careful about her getting hurt or something. =_=' It's just my opinion though.

You know, even immortals have feelings too. LOL JK.
Yeah, your sig, I don't think that's correct.
I'm pretty sure he said "If you are a witch then I'll become a warlock"

[Lugia_Tsuyu]

Originally Posted by Dann of Thursday

I doubt Lelouch cares that much because he knows she won't die. She would probably be the last person he would ever worry about.

And I think that's sad. I just hope that he will realize that she can be HURT, too but she just can't die.

[Aquaman OS]

Originally Posted by FuzzyWuzzy

Brittanians have invaded a lot of countries and they continue to do it. They practically hold the world on their hands. What can 250ish people do against an empire that great? Brittanians have more manpower, resources, vehicles, knightmares, and technology than the BKs. It's like a harmless bug trying to rise up against a human.

Lelouch's plan just won't work as is. Even if he does in the end manage to defeat Britannia he's just going reverse the world situation and Britannian survivors are going be to persecuted by angry numbers. Just look what happened in Ep 25. The instant the Japanese had a bit of control back then went nuts and started attacking every Britannian they could find most of whom were just civillians. That will not make a peaceful world for Nunnally. If anything that will make things worse since she's a Britannian and now a royal in position of power making her a prime target of Japanese anger. So basically nobody can really win now unless an unexpected third option (which is pretty much what I'm counting on) happens that manages to unite the world or something.

[Dann of Thursday]

He'll probably realize it too late when she actually does die.

[Morgun]

Originally Posted by Irenicus

And you think the Emperor will okay that? Let a Japanese take control of Japan right after a big nativist rebellion by the Japanese? A former Prime Minister's son no less?

Of course he'd ok it. The emperor doesn't give a crap who governs Area 11. Hell, he even appointed the blind, crippled sister of the latest rebel leader as the next governor. Everything in Britannia is subject to the emperor's whim. If he'd agree to let Suzy into the prestigious KoR, he'd let him choose a lesser position like governor of a bunch of useless sub-humans (from his point of view).

Originally Posted by Irenicus

Even if he okays it, how long do you think before half the officials of the entire Britannian bureaucracy in Area 11 all plot against him for the position?

This is Britannia we're talking about. It's going to happen anyway. That is just the way they do things.

[Lugia_Tsuyu]

Originally Posted by Dann of Thursday

He'll probably realize it too late when she actually does die.

I kinda hope that would happen, but I also hope that she doesn't have to die in the end before he knows it.

[ashlay]

Originally Posted by Lugia_Tsuyu

And I think that's sad. I just hope that he will realize that she can be HURT, too but she just can't die.

uh...he does. Look at the first season. He's worried about her on multiple occasions. The current Lelouch sees C.C. as a person...but that doesn't mean he won't mess with her anyway.

So yeah, Theron says it's like a soft pillow, and it's not like Lelouch was expecting Gino to show up. It was harsh of him, but it's not like he expected her to get hurt badly, nor have to suffer anywhere near the amount of discomfort she end up having. >_>