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What a hater. That's pretty petty but hilarious-- wonder if she still does that. *Cough* Jinomaru It's certainly a very interesting revelation about True Tears. Suddenly half the fans are vindicated. Quote:
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2012-10-04, 19:18 | Link #263 |
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To be fair, it doesn't necessarily mean that the original script didn't end the same way the current one does, but it means that during the scriptwriting/revising process they experimented with different possible endings. For all we know they may have changed it multiple times in various drafts (and adjusted the rest of the script accordingly).
Actually, I think the story does make sense in light of the other quote that Archon_Wing highlighted: "I consider my nature is a supporting cast, I often cast myself as a supporting cast in what I wrote as a kid. Because of that, I'm attracted to supporting casts or "those who are not chosen". [...] Typically in anime and what not, a protagonist is chosen by something and starts journey, but what about those who were not chosen? Is the place which the protagonist left unattractive?" I think this is actually a very key revelation in light of that show. The place where the person who was not chosen was left was not at all unattractive, and that was a key point of the narrative. If you see the whole story in that light, it makes a lot of sense, and now we see why the author wanted to write about that.
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2012-10-04, 19:28 | Link #264 | |
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Look, nobody is criticizing True Tears here. True Tears is amongst my all-time favorite anime, even as is. And I get why True Tears was given the ending it eventually ended up receiving (yes, True Tears was a case of focusing primarily on the loser in a love triangle, and that does help make True Tears a bit more distinctive in the wider anime world). That being said, many of us have favorite romantic pairings that never happened, and there's obviously a wish-fulfillment appeal to imagining those pairings being animated (heck, this is much of the idea behind omnibus format for VN adaptations; giving every shipper something to cheer about). Are you saying that it's wrong for fans to find that idea appealing, especially when the girl you wanted to "win" was originally planned to "win" anyway? Here's the key excerpt from the interview, pertaining to the True Tears ending: Okada - That's right. I would think I don't want to spoil their characteristics. I figured out how to manage to make the most of their characteristics and ordered them to do this, but they wrote something completely different again. It's sort of like "what was that trouble of mine?" So TT was considerably changed from the series composition at the beginning. There were stories I wanted to write, but I resolved to change the composition so they could do their best. So the ending was changed too. It's sort of like they wrote these, which could mean only one thing. -- In an extreme case, was the person the protagonist goes out with at the end changed? Okada - That is what happened. It seems clear to me that the original plan for True Tears was to have a different romantic ending than what we did in fact get. Okada was directly asked about that, and she answers with a very unambiguous "That is what happened."
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2012-10-04, 19:37 | Link #266 | |
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Throughout the anime as a whole, the two main girls did indeed share fairly even focus.
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2012-10-04, 20:15 | Link #267 | |
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This is more Trivial but I figure I'd share it anyway,this is from an interview of Sayo Yamamoto,director of the recent Lupin III tv anime :
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2012-10-04, 20:17 | Link #268 | |
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My main objection is not that fans might hope for an ending with the character they like, but I think it cheapens the story significantly if people imagine that it was possible to swap endings at the drop of a hat, and that's what I'm afraid people will misinterpret that comment to mean outside of the rest of the context of the statement. This ties to the all-critical importance of the story planner.
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2012-10-04, 20:53 | Link #269 |
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Well, yeah, to be fair I don't think that the ending was the only thing that was changed from the original series composition. The impression I took is that a lot of things were changed (this may tie into the visual changes that True Tears underwent pre-production - I recall Pocari Sweat showing me how originally Noe had long hair and Hiromi had short hair, and that ended up switched).
Actually, part of the reason I'd be curious to see the original series composition be animation is to know just how much was different. But ah well, it's probably too late for that. It can be nice to dream though.
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2012-10-04, 21:12 | Link #270 | |
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Nevertheless I do agree that the show was likely drastically different back then,just as Triple R mentioned the girls looked different early in production.
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2012-10-04, 23:53 | Link #271 |
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That was a very nice read (and reality check). Plenty of people (myself included) have taken shots at her, making her out to be this giant trolling machine, but having the chance to read an interview like this really humanized her in my eyes. I'm not especially partial to the anime she works on, but I find it reassuring to know she is someone who puts thought into her scripts, despite the hiccups here and there.
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2012-10-16, 01:49 | Link #272 | |
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Upon rereading that quote I mentioned earlier in the thread
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It's definitely a pretty interesting thing to notice. It seems to take into account that certain character types are going to be the starts of the show and receive all the development but here we have the people outside of the chosen ones getting the viewer's attention and sympathy. A lot of her characters don't receive much respect in their respective series (most notably Hanairo/Anohana) but the narrative would suggest otherwise, because perhaps the writer cares about them... maybe. Even Aiko. People are defined by how they are perceived by another point. Stories shouldn't always be about the talented, the lucky, and the fortunate. From this I can gather the appeal of some of her work.
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2012-10-17, 09:47 | Link #273 |
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It's a pretty interesting interview. I feel I understand her a little better now. That humanized her quite a bit, I won't be able to hate as wholeheartedly anymore. That bit about her dating boys she hated in her mind made me laugh so hard. That woman is batshit
It turns out the reason True Tears was so different from her other works (i.e; good ) was that it was heavily altered by her co-workers. It sounds like she wanted Noe to win... that makes me think better of her.
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2012-10-17, 13:10 | Link #275 |
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Honestly, I prefer baller chick mainly because I prefer that sort of personality for characters. But I'll just leave it at that. But Noe's storyline and development carries the emotional and thematic weight by far. This goes beyond who I actually like more.
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2012-10-17, 20:05 | Link #276 | |
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2012-10-17, 21:53 | Link #277 |
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So I don't have to credit Hiromi and True Tears to Okada right? Right?
Awesome, now I am free to hate her! Jk. But honestly, I have to admit this. She's using her "perv" to good use in Sakurasou so far. Yes, it's fanservice and it's perv (and I get mighty pissed off at hers in particular 90% of the time), but for whatever reason, I'm laughing at it for at least half the time. Must be because it's an adaptation. Yep. |
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In fact, however, I'm not much into the interesting detailed criticisms that have gone on in this thread. I just watch anime for the enjoyment, rather than spending much time on analysis. But if I have anything to complain about in Okada anime, it is that they don't seem all that focused and consistent. Perhaps she has been giving in to her co-creators too much, lol. However, the strongest praise reported here seems to be for her lines, as opposed to her story construction. So perhaps story construction is in fact her weak point (and a very important point to be weak). Great, great interview. Sounds to me like sanity, as opposed to the insanity of conventional behaviour. That idea of imagining dating each person in turn is a classic. Now that is a writer. And a friendless introvert. I probably should add that I really don't have any strong opinion one way or the other about her writing. I loved true tears and adored Simoun, but she was just an episode writer on Simoun. I liked both Hanasaku Iroha and AnoHana, but had problems with both of them. I liked Zakuro, Hourou Musuko, and Gosick, but not to praise them to the skies. I might praise Lupin III that high, though, lol. I dropped Kodomo no Jikan and BRS, but probably more for the type of shows they were than for anything particular about them. So just looking at the list on ANN, I think her presence gives a show a chance to be good, but she doesn't write my top favorites. If I defend her, it's just to oppose opinions that strike me as extreme (whether they really are or not). However, for her to say she wants to traumatize the audience makes me think she is someone whose work I should watch.
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