2011-08-05, 09:13 | Link #421 |
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Meh, I'm not much into this new girl either. She seems more like a random throw-in to generate jealousy with Subaru, and perhaps even Kanade, than anything else. At least that's the impression I got from this episode.
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2011-08-05, 11:38 | Link #424 |
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The first thing I thought seeing this ep was, "Why doesn't he just say 'glasses'?" Saying "I want something that's in your skirt" is bound to be misinterpreted, but saying "it looks like you've got my glasses caught there" would be much simpler.
I think I'm going to like Usami, and I firmly disagree with the people who hate her so quickly. She's got enough depth that I doubt they're just going to use her as a minor throw-in. And no matter what people say, the chicken came first. Her personality has to have developed through unpleasant experience and isolation; it's just the sad truth that the sort of personality that develops from loneliness and isolation often tends to encourage more isolation. She's clearly reluctant to go home, and even more reluctant to spend money when she can avoid it, which tells me she's also got a very unpleasant and poor home. One of the biggest things to me was when she asked Jirou to believe in her no matter what. She was quite vulnerable and desperate at that point, like she's been doubted and disbelieved a lot. In that one sense she actually reminds me just a bit of a character from another series, who transferred schools and decided to become strong enough to never rely on anyone again after a certain incident. |
2011-08-05, 12:08 | Link #425 |
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This is probably just a matter of taste whatsoever, but I fail to understand Masamune's archtype as "palatable", considering the various points as follow:
-Do not apologize for crashing into someone: heck, her indifference was indeed played as a comedy factor, but the complete lack of apology is quite something. -Blackmailing -Being overly obnoxious doesn't buy any pity from my perspective: she doesn't have friends? It isn't like automatically excuse the characters for being overly bossy and violent. Of course, things shouldn't be taken too seriously due to the themes of the anime, and the fact... well, all of the characters are fictional after all. But I really don't see the whole appealing "presentation" for Masamune, while she is your run-the-mill bossy tsundere. And the last scene for asking for trusting her doesn't really sit well when she is actually forcing Jirou in that mess. It would have been a complete different matter if she asked for his help, instead of blackmailing him. And some people are also fed up to have the same archtype on their plate, while Kureha is filling the bill regarding "brash violent girl after Subaru" role.
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Arguably different from Masamune who basically left him no choice, otherwise there would be very bad consequences afterwards (and it isn't like S4 was anything he would be worried about). Quote:
She was literally using Jirou for her bidding (asking someone you don't know to buy your swimsuit? really?) I would have been fine with few bites here and there, but that's rather quite a flower covered by lacerating thorns we have here. Matter of taste and perspective I guess, I don't think it is really realistic to expect everyone to like/dislike that type of character.
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2011-08-05, 15:02 | Link #429 |
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The new girl suck. The usual stupid and horribly generic cute misunderstood tsundere. The master and Subaru are far more interesting. Liking how the master pissed mentally assault Jirou for not being jealous when she showed him the love letter. Subaru is also funny but the master is at a league of her own.
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2011-08-05, 15:10 | Link #430 |
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Poor Subaru had her promise broken and had her feelings hurt. Stupid Jiro, he should have taken her aside and tell her what's going on and about the photo. Usami seems to have issues though. Didn't expect him to walk her home. Hopefully he can clear it up with Subaru wince she looks so down.
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2011-08-05, 16:47 | Link #431 | |
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I'm not fond of violent tsunderes exactly, I'm just always interested in girls who seem to be hurting on the inside, and who seem to have some backstory that made them defensive and jumpy. Finally, she's in the Textile club, so her violence should not be all that surprising and weird. Frankly, it'd be impossible to stay in a club with Kureha and not learn to fight hard. Also, as for her reluctance to tell her name, again it seemed like she was being defensive, like she thought he was going to come after her somehow once he knew her name. You put a person through enough experiences of being rejected and persecuted, of being punished or held responsible for things that they had nothing to do with, and they'll be very reluctant to welcome responsibility and punishment for things they actually were involved in. Particularly when it was an unexpected accident rather than a conscious action. I'm not saying you have to like this character. I just think that it's a little fast to simply hate her when there was enough evidence that there's a lot of motivating factors going on that we don't know about yet. Last edited by Seiryuu; 2011-08-05 at 16:58. |
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2011-08-05, 16:54 | Link #432 |
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Not really feeling the new girl. Don't care for her. Don't see her being able to do anything to really change that. I can get her basic character model and archetype in pretty much any anime out there. I enjoy this series because of Subaru and Kanade. Stop stealing their air time!
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2011-08-05, 16:57 | Link #433 | |
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2011-08-05, 17:19 | Link #434 |
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Yeah, the new girl sucked balls . She was annoying as hell, and I can't stand bossy, loudmouthed tsuns with no dere toward the main char. I've had enough of that with OreImo for the next 2 years.
And Jirou was a complete dumbass this episode. 'Betraying' Subaru, not asking for the glasses and instead saying "I want what's between you legs", being dense not only to Kana with the love letter, but Subaru as well with the kiss(which he doesn't know about, but still annoys me to no end); this is the kind of shit I hate >=0[. Hopefully I can make it past next episode, because it's been good up to before this episode, and I'd hate to drop it for stupid eps like this. The only things that amused me were Kana's teasing(despite Jirou's dumbassness), and Subaru's kiss. I thought the latter was really funny, because even though she called Jirou a pervert, she was still shyly willing to give him what he wanted. I wonder does she think that friends do this type of thing? I'd hate to see her in a hentai (only cuz I like her so much =03). |
2011-08-05, 18:35 | Link #436 |
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I'd be laughing if he goes "I don't give a damn, that letter's for YOU."
But it'll be very out of character for him.
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2011-08-05, 19:29 | Link #437 | |
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And really she is getting a bad reviews from most people but from other anime that I'm watching that has a same tsundere type as her they actually like her and even though lightning hurts more. has fans been fed p with kirino type of girl though usumi did listen to jirou at the near end of the episode. She doesn't go ballistics all the time as long as it's not about her worship subaru and really if it's interesting the only interesting character here is Kanade but I just like Usumi's type of character so I don't care for her much flaws. At least she has tame moments.
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2011-08-05, 20:10 | Link #438 |
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I would caution against hasty first judgment; none of the characters of this series has ever made good first appearance.
Jirou was quite a pushover when we first saw him, Subaru was not so different from Usami, and Kanade was no more than your manipulative evil girl just having fun at other people's expenses.
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I wonder if this is how it's going to be; if Narumi is also a schemer, we'd have 2 pairs of girls similar to each other That's a little troublesome in terms of diversity, so I'm also going to take the same approach to Narumi too XD (a little pissed we got a peek of her way back in ep 01, and now in ep 05 she's not such an airhead, eh? Needs more time) Quote:
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