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FDW · 2012-12-02, 17:15

Watching The Raiders win the "who wants Manti Te'o more badly" bowl on teh internets.

GDB · 2012-12-02, 17:19

Who's Manti Te'o? Is he the projected #2/3/4 pick?

FDW · 2012-12-02, 17:22

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Who's Manti Te'o? Is he the projected #2/3/4 pick?

He's an LB from Notre Dame who's generally projected to go somewhere in the top five picks of draft (or maybe slightly lower). With Rolando McClain finally gone, The Raiders have a major hole in the LB corp to fill, and Te'o would be a good person to fill said hole.

Dilla · 2012-12-02, 17:28

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Originally Posted by GDB

Who's Manti Te'o? Is he the projected #2/3/4 pick?

The "Andrew Luck" of LBs.

D2 · 2012-12-02, 17:28

Packers win, Badgers win, rest of the NFC North loses, throw in a 49ers loss for good measure. It's been a good weeke-oh wait, Monte Ball just scored again!

FDW · 2012-12-02, 17:36

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The "Andrew Luck" of LBs.

Yeah, more or less. I was originally thinking that the Raiders should use their first round pick somewhere else (Like the secondary or maybe the D-Line), but McClain's hissy fit finally convinced me that we need Te'o the most.

EDIT: Raiders just got an INT.

creb · 2012-12-02, 19:19

I'm no Smith fan, but I did think he got shafted being benched. Looks like karma is a bitch, 'Niners.

GDB · 2012-12-02, 19:29

It's not really about shafting him. Think about it, he's been in the league for quite a while as it is. Over the course of two seasons under Harbaugh, Smith hasn't really gotten any better than where he began last year. That indicates he's hit his ceiling. Kaepernick is worse than Smith, not by that much, but he's also very much less experienced. His ceiling is likely to be higher as well.

sky black swordman · 2012-12-02, 19:36

The 49ers are in store for some QB controversy, after this loss.

And from what I see, the Raiders are going to lose this game. No wait, they did 20 -17. At least they didn't blown out like the last couple of weeks.

I can understand that Mark does not want to be like his dad, but if they continue to lose like this, I think they may fire everybody on that coaching staff including Dennis Allen.
Injuries a side, the coaching staff has not done a very good job coaching this team.

Chiefs won their game against the Carolina Panthers, which IMO is great after the tragedy that occured just yesterday.
I still think the NFL should have postpone it, but oh well.

FDW · 2012-12-02, 19:56

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Originally Posted by GDB

It's not really about shafting him. Think about it, he's been in the league for quite a while as it is. Over the course of two seasons under Harbaugh, Smith hasn't really gotten any better than where he began last year. That indicates he's hit his ceiling. Kaepernick is worse than Smith, not by that much, but he's also very much less experienced. His ceiling is likely to be higher as well.

Actually, I don't Alex's ceiling has been reached yet. And keep in mind, Alex Smith has a notorious reputation for being slow to incorporate new receivers into the game, and he actually was improving compared to last year. (While last year The Niners could barely get a air game at all most times, this year they had something consistently) If he'd hadn't gotten injured back during first Rams game and stay healthy, he probably would've passed last years high total.

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And from what I see, the Raiders are going to lose this game. No wait, they did 20 -17. At least they didn't blown out like the last couple of weeks.

I can understand that Mark does not want to be like his dad, but if they continue to lose like this, I think they may fire everybody on that coaching staff including Dennis Allen.
Injuries a side, the coaching staff has not done a very good job coaching this team.

Well, at least there's good prospects in the draft and free agency for patching over some holes this team has.

sky black swordman · 2012-12-02, 20:37

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Well, at least there's good prospects in the draft and free agency for patching over some holes this team has.

That's true. Anybody you can think of that the Riaders will draft and free agent they may try to pick up?

FDW · 2012-12-02, 21:48

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That's true. Anybody you can think of that the Riaders will draft and free agent they may try to pick up?

I've mentioned Manti Te'o, but if we can't get him there's also Damontre Moore (DE), Star Lotulelei (DT), Eric Reid (S). As for Free Agents, I'm partial to Cliff Avril (DE), Glen Dorsey (DT), and Larry Grant (LB).

sky black swordman · 2012-12-03, 14:14

^ Hmm, I knew a few ,but the others I will check out.

And it looks like Michael Vick may be out of a job next year ,now that the Eagles have name Foles their starting QB for rest of season.
IMO they should cut their losses and get rid of Michael Vick.

GDB · 2012-12-03, 15:40

If they decide to stick with Foles, Vick will obviously be cut/traded (depending on how his contract is structured). I doubt he'll be entirely without work, since I'm sure some needy team will pick him up and hope they can be more productive with him.

Last Sinner · 2012-12-04, 01:17

And the NFC East insanity continues! Washington just edges out New YorK Gs. So now the Giants are 7-5, the Redskins are 6-6 and the Cowboys are 6-6. You figure only one spot is being given from that division...the way the Giants have stuttered lately, it is plausible any of those three teams could get that spot...

RWBladewing · 2012-12-04, 07:39

I am betting Buffalo ends up with Alex Smith or (less likely) Vick next year. Awkward short-term "solutions" for long-term problems has been their MO for over a decade now.

ChainLegacy · 2012-12-04, 09:08

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And the NFC East insanity continues! Washington just edges out New YorK Gs. So now the Giants are 7-5, the Redskins are 6-6 and the Cowboys are 6-6. You figure only one spot is being given from that division...the way the Giants have stuttered lately, it is plausible any of those three teams could get that spot...

I hope the Giants miss the playoffs as a New England fan. Yes, I'm looking to take the easy way out this year and avoid their post-season theatrics.

GDB · 2012-12-04, 09:13

What I don't get is how NFL's playoff picture has New England with the bye instead of Baltimore. Both are 9-3, but Baltimore beat New England earlier in the season. Stupid NFL showing its New England bias.

Mr. DJ · 2012-12-04, 09:49

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What I don't get is how NFL's playoff picture has New England with the bye instead of Baltimore. Both are 9-3, but Baltimore beat New England earlier in the season. Stupid NFL showing its New England bias.

they flipped a coin.

Heads, New England gets the bye
Tails, New England gets the bye

...FUCK!

GDB · 2012-12-04, 11:11

Tails, flip again. Can't be too obvious in the bias.

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sky black swordman Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: California	The 49ers are in store for some QB controversy, after this loss. And from what I see, the Raiders are going to lose this game. No wait, they did 20 -17. At least they didn't blown out like the last couple of weeks. I can understand that Mark does not want to be like his dad, but if they continue to lose like this, I think they may fire everybody on that coaching staff including Dennis Allen. Injuries a side, the coaching staff has not done a very good job coaching this team. Chiefs won their game against the Carolina Panthers, which IMO is great after the tragedy that occured just yesterday. I still think the NFL should have postpone it, but oh well. __________________

2012-12-03, 14:14	Link #5853
sky black swordman Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: California	^ Hmm, I knew a few ,but the others I will check out. And it looks like Michael Vick may be out of a job next year ,now that the Eagles have name Foles their starting QB for rest of season. IMO they should cut their losses and get rid of Michael Vick. __________________

2012-12-04, 01:17	Link #5855
Last Sinner You're Hot, Cupcake Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 42	And the NFC East insanity continues! Washington just edges out New YorK Gs. So now the Giants are 7-5, the Redskins are 6-6 and the Cowboys are 6-6. You figure only one spot is being given from that division...the way the Giants have stuttered lately, it is plausible any of those three teams could get that spot... __________________

2012-12-02, 17:15	Link #5841
FDW Zettai Ryouiki Lover Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Bay Area	Watching The Raiders win the "who wants Manti Te'o more badly" bowl on teh internets.

2012-12-02, 17:19	Link #5842
GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	Who's Manti Te'o? Is he the projected #2/3/4 pick?

2012-12-02, 19:29	Link #5848
GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	It's not really about shafting him. Think about it, he's been in the league for quite a while as it is. Over the course of two seasons under Harbaugh, Smith hasn't really gotten any better than where he began last year. That indicates he's hit his ceiling. Kaepernick is worse than Smith, not by that much, but he's also very much less experienced. His ceiling is likely to be higher as well.

2012-12-03, 15:40	Link #5854
GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	If they decide to stick with Foles, Vick will obviously be cut/traded (depending on how his contract is structured). I doubt he'll be entirely without work, since I'm sure some needy team will pick him up and hope they can be more productive with him.

2012-12-04, 07:39	Link #5856
RWBladewing Salt Levels Critical Join Date: Oct 2007	I am betting Buffalo ends up with Alex Smith or (less likely) Vick next year. Awkward short-term "solutions" for long-term problems has been their MO for over a decade now.

2012-12-04, 09:13	Link #5858
GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	What I don't get is how NFL's playoff picture has New England with the bye instead of Baltimore. Both are 9-3, but Baltimore beat New England earlier in the season. Stupid NFL showing its New England bias.

2012-12-04, 11:11	Link #5860
GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	Tails, flip again. Can't be too obvious in the bias.