2013-10-03, 08:32 | Link #261 | |
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Weird that some people don't recognize that at this point. Their own style. The other funny thing in this thread, is that sort of fictional criticism some people tends to do, in other words, criticism based on speculations. |
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2013-10-03, 09:43 | Link #263 | ||
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I enjoyed the first episode. It was engaging, quick-paced, and pleasant to watch. The dialogue and narration was near/at a Haruhi/Hyouka level, which contributed a lot to how engaging it was. The visuals were nice and pretty.
These are the main elements that enable it to feel worth watching in spite of how incredibly cliche a lot of the tropes in this are. Yes, there are countless anime shows that use tropes like these, but at least the KyoAni polish makes Kyoukai no Kanata a cut or two above the vast majority of other anime shows like this one. The action scenes were pretty good, but quick and semi-comedic. That's fine for a first episode, but I hope the action scenes become more elaborate and tense in future episodes. Now, was I mind-blown? No, but then I wasn't expecting to be. I've learned to be cautious about anything heavily hyped in the anime world, because usually the show won't match the hype. However, this show is good, and I'm looking forward to more. Right now, I think the best way to sum up this show is... Quote:
I definitely see how the two leads of Kyoukai no Kanata are like the two leads of Chuunibyou. I also agree with what Guardian Enzo wrote here... Quote:
KyoAni will never be that dark/gritty, guys. It's just not their style. There's an old saying in the world of anime - "SHAFT being SHAFT". Maybe it would be good if we also adopted the saying "KyoAni being KyoAni". At this juncture, you can tell "Yep, that's a KyoAni show!" just as easily as you can tell "Yep, that's a SHAFT show!". This is neither an inherently good or bad thing. It simply is. Whether you like it or not will depend on your personal tastes. At least you know what to expect with KyoAni. 8/10 for Episode 1.
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2013-10-03, 09:48 | Link #264 |
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Some would argue that a studio being so consistently lacking in creative ambition is inherently a bad thing, but if you're a big fan of KyoAni's work - or one of their accountants - you'd obviously not be one of those people.
In truth, I think even SHAFT has more range than KyoAni. But it's the rare KyoAni series that breaks the mold - like Hyouka, even if it had to do it in subtle ways - that keep the non-fanboys like me hoping that we'll see more shows with the signature KyoAni production values, but a real sense of experimentation.
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2013-10-03, 10:29 | Link #265 | |
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2013-10-03, 10:36 | Link #266 | |
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Anyway... not that much to say about the whole thing yet. Well there are things that I find quite a bit absurd but I'll keep it to myself and wait for things to play out. Animation is outstanding as usual for Kyoani but I can't say I like the style being used when it comes to action and I'm not too fond of the 2 main protagonists so far. That's all I have to say at this point.
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2013-10-03, 10:52 | Link #267 | |
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It's an unusual misstep for Kyoto, who normally just nails the little details that differentiate their shows from each other - just look at how they freshened up K-On in its second season, for example.
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2013-10-03, 11:02 | Link #268 | |
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It's cliche stuff maybe, but it's part of their stamp, their style, their "lack of creativity" -according to some-, but let me tell you something... Some people like it, yeah, really. If not, they -the studio I refer-, would've avoided it long ago. pd: Sorry if there is something grammatically weird, I'm spanish guy doing the best I can to express myself assertively. xD |
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2013-10-03, 11:10 | Link #269 | |||
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I went ahead and watched the episode last night, and...
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I did not come into this with the impression that KyoAni was going to toss a bunch of what they're known for out the window. That would be naive. I felt that the plot seemed decent enough for KyoAni to put their own twist on it while possibly introducing one or two new elements that could give the show it's own flavor... Kind of like how Chu2Byo or Hyouka were treated, which is why I enjoyed those shows a LOT, even though I'm not a KyoAni fangirl. Quote:
Not enough to make or break the series for me, but if that level of stupidity increases or becomes more frequent... It's going to be harder to ignore. I know it's a KyoAni thing and their fans like that stuff, but... I feel that it was justified in Chu2Byo. A lot of it is them just pretending to be inept, anyway. Here, Mirai was genuinely just being kinda stupid. =/ You can argue "being caught up in the moment" or it's just cutesy clumsiness, but eh... The comedy just seems a little strangely written right now.
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2013-10-03, 11:14 | Link #270 | |
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The execution here was just bad IMO - being derpy doesn't mean she can't also be dangerous, but that's played down even given that she can't actually kill him (again, the Angel Beats comparison).
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2013-10-03, 11:31 | Link #272 | |
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I'm not saying that the scene was perfect, obviously could have been better handled in order to make clear that Mirai is the typical tender-silly character, but, I'm also saying that people who watch Kyoani shows are aware that those "extremely stupid" situations are behind every corner. Therefore, if they continuously add "that" to their destructive criticisms, that would be just masochistic. Better ignore it, or just avoid it. |
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2013-10-03, 11:35 | Link #273 | |
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Well the "derpy moe girl" is an archetype, but kyoani just happens to have a pretty infamous one with Yui, and to a lesser extent characters like Rikka.
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Honestly the main girl wouldn't seem out of place in a series like K-ON. Only difference is she is stabby stab stab, but don't worry, it's just a gag!
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2013-10-03, 11:48 | Link #274 | |
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I think you're just overreacting with all the "bucket-in-the-head" thing. Just that.
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2013-10-03, 11:50 | Link #275 | |||
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From an artistic perspective, it would be better if KyoAni had more creative ambition. You raise a valid point there. But if you look at it from a consumer/customer perspective, it's good to have a brand name that you know exactly what you're going to get with them every time out. But to get this advantage, of course, you have to accept the brand for what it is. I don't like being this blunt, but some people just need to stop getting their hopes up when it comes to KyoAni. For their own sake, more than anything. This is it, guys. This is KyoAni. Hyouka was a bit of an exception because of the high quality and distinct nature of the source material. So unless KyoAni is adapting something significantly different from its standard fare (like, say, a book that's not a light novel) there's no reason to expect significant divergence from its usual style. SHAFT likes its creepy/dramatic head-tilts, its art-house style set design, its minimalist character design (pancake faces), and its wildly eccentric visuals. JC Staff pumps as much ecchi comedy and SoL as possible into everything it does (as evidenced by Shana and Raildex). And KyoAni is about Key-style moe girls, mildly snarky but harmless guys, guys shouting loudly at key emotional points, falling leaves, and comedically sexy teacher types (so yeah, you pretty much nailed it Guardian Enzo). Quote:
Mirai is a less mature Yomiko Readman of Read or Die fame. Total klutz most of the time, but fierce fighter when she gets serious. Quote:
So while you see a misstep here, I think it was played better than it was in Angel Beats! Good to see we're largely in agreement on this episode.
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2013-10-03, 11:53 | Link #276 |
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I didn't really like the first episode, it reminded me a lot of Chunibyo and I personally didn't find that anime all that great. It just didn't pull me in. They started the "This is how I met the female lead" with a 2 minute explanation instead of dedicating a proper amount of time towards it.
The female lead looks like she's going to be annoying the majority of the time and I get the feeling i'm going to be agreeing with the male leads opinions a lot of the time.
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2013-10-03, 12:24 | Link #277 | |
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Except when ZEXCS decided to break their mold, they didn't load Suki-tte Ii Na Yo with a bunch of panty shots and trip-fall-grope jokes. |
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2013-10-03, 12:45 | Link #279 | |
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But, don't worry, I don't know what he refer either.
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2013-10-03, 12:47 | Link #280 | |
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@Triple_R: the Angel Beats route may not be the solution, but there is a problem that Mirai's dojikko antics are just kind of flat. I don't have the same issue with Yumiko - or Yui and Rika for that matter. They're all colourful and fun.
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To me, the focus on a "KyoAni formula" distracts from the fact their stuff works because their execution is just that deft. And that deftness seems to be missing from this first episode, which is highly unusual from my perspective. On the plus side, the end of episode one suggests we're going to see some focus on Mirai's struggles soon, and I feel like KyoAni may execute a little better on that front.
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