Little Busters ~Refrain~ - Episode 13 [END] Discussion / Poll

[ronelm2000]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

You make a good point here. I think I would have shown characters a bit more bloodied up. Maybe have someone end up with an arm-cast, have someone else start a wearing an eye-patch (implying a serious eye injury).

There's a problem with that: budget.

[AP24]

The first season and Refrain were 3-cours altogether. They should have made them 4-cours in total so that each character arc had 1 or 2 more episodes and some scenes didn't have to be cut out.

[ronelm2000]

Originally Posted by AP24

The first season and Refrain were 3-cours altogether. They should have made them 4-cours in total so that each character arc had 1 or 2 more episodes and some scenes didn't have to be cut out.

I'll be quoting myself on this one...

Originally Posted by ronelm2000

There's a problem with that: budget.

But yeah, 3-cours was just a bare short of "too short to be enjoyable".

[Arturia Polaris]

I felt that the whole last episode could have been a bit better. There was a lacking moment of tension in the whole rescue thing.

This was missing:

[Semi-Otaku]

It was perfect ending, but left me with emptiness. I don't know how I can explain that though.

[Leo_Otaku]

Originally Posted by Semi-Otaku

It was perfect ending, but left me with emptiness. I don't know how I can explain that though.

Well there is still EX content

[Semi-Otaku]

Well there is still EX content

I will watch it then.

[Vegard Aune]

This might be a bit tangential, but I see a lot of people saying how Maeda's endings (excluding Air) seem to be way too upbeat and happy considering all the tragedy leading up to them...
This just makes me wonder, how many here have read his original manga-series, Hibiki's Magic? Because one thing I've noticed there is, the endings to each story do tend to be a lot more bittersweet than what we normally get in the visual novels. I mean, I can't right off the bat think of any examples of chapters ending on a total downer, but at the same time, whenever one of the more serious chapters pops up (aka, any chapter that isn't just "The academy falls under the influence of some unstable magic experiment") the outcomes generally tend to lean more towards just "let's try and help them cope with whatever bad things happened to them" rather than "let's somehow render the tragedy completely irrelevant "

...Oh and on the topic of this ending... yeah it was a bit too happy in a way. I mean, it's not that I wanted to see everyone but Rin and Riki die in a fire, but having everyone not only surviving, but completely recovering after just a couple of months, does kinda undermine some of the drama from before... Though I don't mind too much. It's just another case where I do enjoy the ending we got but there's a part of me that feels like a more bittersweet ending (say, they get the classmates out of the fire but Kyousuke still dies or something) might have been more fitting. Just like how there's a part of me that kinda feels like Clannad AS should have ended at episode 19.

[Leo_Otaku]

Originally Posted by Vegard Aune

This might be a bit tangential, but I see a lot of people saying how Maeda's endings (excluding Air) seem to be way too upbeat and happy considering all the tragedy leading up to them...
This just makes me wonder, how many here have read his original manga-series, Hibiki's Magic? Because one thing I've noticed there is, the endings to each story do tend to be a lot more bittersweet than what we normally get in the visual novels. I mean, I can't right off the bat think of any examples of chapters ending on a total downer, but at the same time, whenever one of the more serious chapters pops up (aka, any chapter that isn't just "The academy falls under the influence of some unstable magic experiment") the outcomes generally tend to lean more towards just "let's try and help them cope with whatever bad things happened to them" rather than "let's somehow render the tragedy completely irrelevant "

...Oh and on the topic of this ending... yeah it was a bit too happy in a way. I mean, it's not that I wanted to see everyone but Rin and Riki die in a fire, but having everyone not only surviving, but completely recovering after just a couple of months, does kinda undermine some of the drama from before... Though I don't mind too much. It's just another case where I do enjoy the ending we got but there's a part of me that feels like a more bittersweet ending (say, they get the classmates out of the fire but Kyousuke still dies or something) might have been more fitting. Just like how there's a part of me that kinda feels like Clannad AS should have ended at episode 19.

I believe a lot to do with it is because he works for KEY and not just himself. AIR's ending wasn't as well received to game players, so my thinking is he is almost told to make a happy, happy endings. I do se a big difference in projects he works on alone as opposed to KEY works.

I really hate how Miyuki's death is really underplayed. I think they could have gone into lengths to mention she died. I really liked her. I agree that their should have been a student or two that maybe even lost a leg.

[Archon_Wing]

Key sad/bad endings have also often proved themselves to be just as contrived as their happy endings. For the same reason, since the late game tragedy is forced, leading to a mediocre conclusion no matter what. There's one that hasn't been adapted into anime that I won't care to spoil much here, but it just felt very flat and phoned in.

Little Busters would be one of the ones that comes off as acceptable and I have a greater respect for the writing although other works suffered from adaptation problems. I'll just leave it at that.