Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei LN - Archived Discussion

[blackwhite67]

Originally Posted by millie10468

Are you saying there was no logical period, before and during the fight, that he could have used mist dispersal successfully but chose not to due to his limitations? Because I believe without his limitations, there would have been no fight in the first place.

Well, there clearly was, but it remains a fact that he chose not to do so, but not because of his limitations (his seal) or his restrictions (mist dispersal, Material Burst). I think, and this is only speculation, Tatsuya wanted to personally confront Lina and talk to her. Something along that line since nothing else seems to make sense.

As for the bold, I hope you recall that I said that as well in my previous post.

[millie10468]

Originally Posted by babbo3d

Let's end it here. This is a endless spiral we been here many times before and no one ever wins it just more heated and heated because everyone thinks they are right and them it gets personal, so let's drop it.

I find it really interesting to read the different interpretations of the same thing. It makes me reread the novel with different mindsets and that's not bad, is it?

[babbo3d]

Originally Posted by millie10468

I find it really interesting to read the different interpretations of the same thing. It makes me reread the novel with different mindsets and that's not bad, is it?

True but the mindsets have been stated, now it's getting to prove the other one wrong on a theoretical of a event the already happened (in the web arc).

[millie10468]

Originally Posted by babbo3d

True but the mindsets have been stated, now it's getting to prove the other one wrong on a theoretical of a event the already happened (in the web arc).

Point taken.

But I should point out that this is all we can do until we get something new to read. Unless you have something else we can talk about?

[blackwhite67]

Originally Posted by Jirachier

Tatsuya was factoring in his own abilities at the time, he was talking about that specific battle against her in which he had no way of accessing half of his powers.

That's what I meant.

And it's not that simple to use Mist Dispersion, yeah he can use it on just a part of her but that's an extremely difficult magic and against someone of Lina's caliber it's most definitely very difficult to hit her where he wants(she's not going to just sit there and let him hit her, she's a moving target) to otherwise he might get her in the head or something and she will die.

This is his birth magic we're talking about. He can use it like his hands and feet. He doesn't even need to see his target thanks to his Elemental Sight.

Tatsuya was caught off guard, she pulled a CAD that he didn't expect her to even have, he didn't want to kill her, he couldn't use half of his power. I'm not saying he would've 100% won otherwise, what i'm saying is, the outcome of that battle between them if it was to death and both could use all of their abilities is unknown.

Off guard?

Spoiler for Summary:

Back at the restaurant, Tatsuya is thinking about the magic Lina just used, “Heavy Metal Burst.” It is a magic which takes disperses heavy metals and turns them into plasma. The transformation creates a strong shock wave. This is primarily done, he concludes, by Lina's weapon, which also forms a barrier to contain the shock wave and plasma to prevent extraneous damage (hence why the surroundings were not damaged by the attack). He also understands that its attack can move at an instant, perhaps fast enough that his Regrowth cannot catch up. While he is thinking such things, Lina turns around and runs away, challenging him to follow her. Tatsuya follows after her. Colonel Balance, in the meanwhile, orders for a car to be prepared, since she is worried about Lina's deviation from her plan to fight in the park.

Tatsuya finally catches up to Lina. Lina tells him to give up, because, while she does not know how he neutralized her magic before, he would not be able to neutralize Brionac. While thinking about the meaning of Brionac, he remains silent, which Lina takes as a rejection. She takes her weapon and points it at Tatsuya. The shot quickly fires before Tatsuya can use magic and disintegrates his right arm. He runs to hide behind shrubs, but she moves weapon around while attacking and eventually catches him. While he grasps the right side of his body and is down on one knee, she approaches him and reactivates Brionac, this time in a blade form.

He had already deduced her weapon's capabilities before he gave chase. The seal probably didn't even make a difference. Mist Dispersal is still lethal and Lina didn't have any defense against it. The only way the seal could've made a difference is if it affected his casting speed.

As I said before, due to the nature of Mist Dispersal it only takes one shot to kill or incapacitate. So whether he had the intent to kill or not didn't really make any difference in his fight.

[babbo3d]

Originally Posted by millie10468

Point taken.

But I should point out that this is all we can do until we get something new to read. Unless you have something else we can talk about?

true i concede your point.

[waffler]

guys guys i think we all know why tatsuya does not use mist dispersal at the beginning at the fight, since he is a gentleman, he lets lina do what she want and make her feel good before he becomes rough and melts her with mist disperal

[babbo3d]

Originally Posted by waffler

guys guys i think we all know why tatsuya does not use mist dispersal at the beginning at the fight, since he is a gentleman, he lets lina do what she want and make her feel good before he becomes rough and melts her with mist disperal

Nothing says gentlemen like letting her blast his arm into ashes (not dust).

[blackwhite67]

Originally Posted by babbo3d

Nothing says gentlemen like letting her blast his arm into ashes (not dust).

A true gentlemen always indulges a woman with a slap or two. In this case, it was the vaporizing of his arm.

[ReaperxKingx]

New to the series, so please do not bully me. I only read the first chapter of volume 1 and a little bit of chapter 2. My impressions are very enlighten, so much detail and yet still leaves some mystery to it. Just wondering on how the story progress over the course through 9 volumes, what is everyone's response towards it? I don't really need specifics just need some encouragement to read it all tomorrow.

[Seitsuki]

It's pretty good. The MC isn't dense or a perv or has a harem, which is rarer than diamonds these days and just as valuable; there's quite a lot of in depth world building, and overall things develop rather satisfactorily. Also has one of the best imoutos ever, partially precisely because she isn't a typical standard fanservice loli imouto. You could certainly do a lot worse.

[babbo3d]

And tatsuya is already the strongest no need for all that getting strong from being super weak character.

[bloodyclaws]

Originally Posted by ReaperxKingx

New to the series, so please do not bully me. I only read the first chapter of volume 1 and a little bit of chapter 2. My impressions are very enlighten, so much detail and yet still leaves some mystery to it. Just wondering on how the story progress over the course through 9 volumes, what is everyone's response towards it? I don't really need specifics just need some encouragement to read it all tomorrow.

Its a story where an OP protagonist is done right without it being comedic which is rare. (eg. Onepunch man, assassination classroom). The light novel goes through the perspective of various different characters that can be considered "main characters" as each of them are capable in their own way.

[Flere821]

I have just read a bit more about Double7 translations:

Spoiler for comments:

Mayumi, you're screwed. Your reactions have practically cemented the idea to Koichi that you've fallen heads over heels for Tatsuya, to the point you'd speak out against both Koichi AND Kudou >.>

Oh, and Tatsuya's pulling out that magic fusion generator thing against (only) a 2-bit upstart politician that's going to visit 1st High. It's really overkill IMO, even if this politician is only the vanguard of future things to come.
(BTW, more Ayako scenes, confirmed yet another family member falling for Tatsuya )

[waffler]

what is double 7?

[Chimurry]

Originally Posted by Flere821

I have just read a bit more about Double7 translations:

Spoiler for comments:

Mayumi, you're screwed. Your reactions have practically cemented the idea to Koichi that you've fallen heads over heels for Tatsuya, to the point you'd speak out against both Koichi AND Kudou >.>

Oh, and Tatsuya's pulling out that magic fusion generator thing against (only) a 2-bit upstart politician that's going to visit 1st High. It's really overkill IMO, even if this politician is only the vanguard of future things to come.
(BTW, more Ayako scenes, confirmed yet another family member falling for Tatsuya )

So far from raws or Chinese translations, Do you think D7 have its own arc sequence like a normal SS?? or just preamble to upcoming a real lets say "Web 7" arc, from the info you kindly gave Us, off course I thank others contributions like @Mostradboy, I assume the whole deal did not ended in this chapter.

EDIT: D7 = DOUBLE SEVEN/NINENDO
Due the print publishing releases delays the main story released on Web chapters and forcefully need to wait until print publishing release Web 6, Satou sensei release in a tri month magazine one SS called Double 7 Ninendo due cuz the spotlight are the 7th Master Clan, which is rule by Saegusa Family, another family heir from this Clan, have intentions to overturn this in his favor, his first steps come on 1st High where Mayumi Saegusa twins imoutos start attendance on their first year, the SS come in 4 chapter or at least is what we known so far and happen in Tatsuya/Miyuki 2nd High school year.

Take as example Reki Kawahara sensei SAO release SS until Alicnization Arc finally come print release, but the SS are beyond that arc.

[Jirachier]

Originally Posted by blackwhite67

Off guard?



He had already deduced her weapon's capabilities before he gave chase. The seal probably didn't even make a difference. Mist Dispersal is still lethal and Lina didn't have any defense against it. The only way the seal could've made a difference is if it affected his casting speed.

As I said before, due to the nature of Mist Dispersal it only takes one shot to kill or incapacitate. So whether he had the intent to kill or not didn't really make any difference in his fight.

It takes one shot to kill or incapacitate true but like I said, he doesn't want to kill her, he only wants to incapacitate her and she's one of the strongest magicians in the world, so she's very good at avoiding hits which makes it really hard for Tatsuya since he needs to aim somewhere where it doesn't kill her while she's trying to avoid his attack, so yeah it does matter.
And if the seal did not matter, Maya wouldn't put it on him in the first place, I'm pretty sure it's sealing something, maybe his casting speed gets a little faster or something, but it matters.

Again, I'm not saying Tatsuya would've definitely won I'm saying he might have.

[Flere821]

Originally Posted by Chimurry

So far from raws or Chinese translations, Do you think D7 have its own arc sequence like a normal SS?? or just preamble to upcoming a real lets say "Web 7" arc, from the info you kindly gave Us, off course I thank others contributions like @Mostradboy, I assume the whole deal did not ended in this chapter.

Double7 looks like it's going to be like a 'WEB 7' arc instead of something like Vol5 SS. The published Double7 stuff up to this point is probably equal to a entire volume's worth of plot, 12 chapters/parts. Though the plot right now seems to be a bit more like Vol1, just setting things up for the more dramatic stuff later.

[Von Himmel]

New to the series, so please do not bully me. I only read the first chapter of volume 1 and a little bit of chapter 2. My impressions are very enlighten, so much detail and yet still leaves some mystery to it. Just wondering on how the story progress over the course through 9 volumes, what is everyone's response towards it? I don't really need specifics just need some encouragement to read it all tomorrow.

I think each arc develops more world-building rather than its characters. Sure there are some development of it, but it's much slower than the world building development.

It's really overkill IMO,

Feh, only a small matters to Tatsuya

[Rava]

Originally Posted by Flere821

I have just read a bit more about Double7 translations:

Spoiler for comments:

Mayumi, you're screwed. Your reactions have practically cemented the idea to Koichi that you've fallen heads over heels for Tatsuya, to the point you'd speak out against both Koichi AND Kudou >.>

Oh, and Tatsuya's pulling out that magic fusion generator thing against (only) a 2-bit upstart politician that's going to visit 1st High. It's really overkill IMO, even if this politician is only the vanguard of future things to come.
(BTW, more Ayako scenes, confirmed yet another family member falling for Tatsuya )

Spoiler:

Didn't she already doom herself when she made "special" chocolates for Tatsuya?

And, well, wouldn't you find Tatsuya's picture next to "overkill" in the dictionary anyway?