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That was the happy ending... Spoiler for BAD ending, maybe too dark for this time in the morning:
Despite being able to think like that, I like to believe that there are purely honest people in the world, even if I don't happen to come across any~ P.S: the above situations are examples, any stunning resemblance to real-life situations is purely coincidental, this is a work of fiction! |
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2010-03-14, 04:55 | Link #3802 | |||
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That's incredibly limited and as I've seen, you've made a few more character references that just totally throws me off your post, since I can't relate. If a girl's so evil that she's a bitch, then she's a bitch. No use being polite if she's horrible. If you wanted to describe someone with a crazy temper: She has a fierce temper, she's incredibly fiery. Her words cut like sharp knives. She's ruthless. You know... the other vocab in the English language which is universally applicable. And yes, a walrus is a bad example, lol. If they wanna reference an animal for temper than 'hellcat' is fine enough (since they hiss) I'd tell the guy to work on his similes more or don't use them Quote:
It's hard to see or imagine you'd give a girl a chance without running some kinda "anime reference index" in your brain to sum her up before continuing to communicate with her. In other words, try not to cross reference girls and women who aren't designed by people's imaginations so much that it becomes an unconscious habit? Quote:
It's your constant use of the anime references and favouring the "2D" world to some degree in your posts over the last month or so. As you said, you have had some bad offline experiences unfortunately, so there isn’t much to be positive in that side of things, but at least try to be neutral and take a women/girl for who she is from day 1 without mentally glancing to some kinda anime reference? Is just my two pence to you. As it is, I cannot follow those anime terms, so I'll remain on my lurking seat and skip over some posts. Should someone want some advice for a real life situation, I'll poke my head back in again.
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2010-03-14, 10:36 | Link #3803 |
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I personally find it demeaning to categorize people as anime characters, regardless of genders. I only know one person whom I equate to an anime character solely because she lacks any sort of emotional depth or emotional control to the point that she acts cartoonish. That, and being into anime she tries to imitate the characters to such an extent that it's actually interfered with her original personality, and as such she is a complete social wreck who literally cannot even begin to fathom the concept that people may have different opinions than her on various matters. In other words, she completely shut herself away from the realm of cognitive reality.
Earlier in the thread I said I wanted somebody whose interests are dramatically different than my own. Now you know why. I cannot handle people who are unstable like she is, and in my experience all serious anime/video game fans I have met have this same exact problem. I need somebody who has some form of internal physiological support for themselves, or at least some ability to intelligently convey internal problems and the willingness to listen to advice given in order to fix said problems. And needless to say, thanks to that being one of my biggest standards, I have yet to find anybody I like. |
2010-03-14, 10:37 | Link #3804 | |||
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Regarding the favouritism of 2D to 3D, apparently it is a result of staying at home too much as I need to save before I start school (and I just left the army recently). Practically most of my friends are gone, mostly overseas studying or dropped out of my grid, so I have to slowly rebuild that network. Meanwhile, I will stay at home and watch anime all day and keep my expenditure to the minimum. Quote:
The usage of imagery is different from one to another, similarly people would think of different first words to describe a pizza. It all depends on our familiarity, and what we can associate and reference with the closest. My reply to that "working with the similes" thing is that suggestion is "as objective as a mission plan". Do you understand? Probably not, and that is because we think differently, so it is either we ask, or we infer if we really don't know what the other party is pointing at. And clarifying a few things : BGR - Boy-Girl relationship Tsundere - A girl who has a combative attitude toward others but is also kind on the inside. Quote:
That is the underlying intention of the idiom "never judge a book by its cover". As much as we can categorise them and diversify everyone, we still have to accept people for who they are, though it is a difficult process I am still having problem practicing because of our mental filters and personal bias. So, it isn't demeaning to find people who categorise others as anime characters demeaning?
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2010-03-14, 12:24 | Link #3805 | |
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I don't think it's right to look at somebody and say "You're so tsundere." I'd rather you just say "You sometimes act rude and direct, but I know inside you're a nice person." The latter has far more depth, meaning, and emotion than the former. |
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2010-03-14, 12:53 | Link #3806 | ||
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To keep it somewhat on topic, this especially goes for those I would date. I enjoy the straight-forward blunt and honest nature, and to be able to do that in return. People are complex creatures, and it takes time to really get to know someone; though it's perfectly fine to admit interest. Misunderstandings are the cause of so many arguments, fights, and disagreements; that's why I prefer to be honest and try to communicate well at all costs, to avoid those. |
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2010-03-14, 16:52 | Link #3807 |
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I think you're making a mistake in assuming that Saintess intended for it to carry, "depth, meaning and emotion". Nobody I've met uses terms like tsundere without intending it to be teasing or humourous. Ditto for the occasions when I've told my girlfriend she's "moe".
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2010-03-14, 17:04 | Link #3808 | |
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2010-03-14, 17:24 | Link #3809 | |
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2010-03-14, 17:44 | Link #3810 |
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I'm sorry, but the terminology debate is rather ridiculous. It's a basic principle that in contexts where people can reasonably be expected to have a mutual understanding of certain terms--as in the case of this forum--that more concise is better. If one says 'tsundere' instead of 'You sometimes act rude and direct, but I know inside you're a nice person,' that doesn't convey any less meaning. To say that the longer explanation has more depth or value is an out and out falsehood, linguistically speaking.
Now, it gets in the way if you abuse the term, as with any highly specific word, or if you use it outside of a context where you have reason to believe people will get it, but please, don't generalize about specific terminology being inferior. They aren't necessarily demeaning either. These words are from a lexicon that pertains to fiction, but there are many words in every language that are coined in fiction and come into the vernacular, and we do not consider it demeaning to use them. No one considers it crude to use the term quixotic, for example. I can see that mostly, people are fielding this reaction because they feel like use of anime terminology necessarily means limiting, in one's mind, a person to that archetype and nothing more...but whether that's taking place or not has to be done on a case-by-case basis. I said, for instance, that Girl A is a tsundere. And she is. She is possessed of tsundere characteristics. But when was such a term defined as 'to the exclusion of any other relevant traits'? When you say someone is energetic, do you mean that's the only thing they are? Why should anime terms be seen that way? Back on topic some, the whole situation has dissolved completely over here. Girl A's behavior immediately went down the drain after the first two, three days of improvement. At this point, I'm completely resigning from trying to be there for her. It only gets my hand bitten. If she needs me, she can tough it up and come looking for me and show me a measure of due respect, but otherwise I have given forth all the effort I can over these past years. Of course, there are a few people who have caught my eye...but there are various reasons why none of them are viable pursuits.
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2010-03-14, 18:02 | Link #3811 | |
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Of course, if the person being described actually is like that, then as Radiant says... it's better than some other choices.
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2010-03-15, 02:05 | Link #3812 | |
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I understand that person, A(nna) (I'll give her a name for my benefit), is a bit strong-headed, even for you. Personally, I couldn't give you any more advice as I have been out of the dating thing for close to 5 weeks. Maybe someone over here is able to lend a helping hand?
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2010-03-15, 02:27 | Link #3815 | |
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Unless you consider adopting terms from anime, manga, and Bishojo games an art form. I'm not sure where you're from, but around here in the common setting you use that term in a social context you're probably going to have to explain what it means every single time. People that are pretty much into anime, manga, whatever are probably gonna be the only ones familiar with that terminology. Probably won't come across that many in the United States. Just saying.
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2010-03-15, 02:30 | Link #3816 | ||
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These are still mainly anime forums, and most of the users are in their teen years, so using such terms makes it a lot easier for them to describe various personalities, however superficial.
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Maybe I'm totally off on this one, after all I've never met either, but hey, women are complex creatures~ @ Samari: characters may be the work of fiction, but their relationships all stem from reality. Even the most impossible anime character can be found in the real world, however rare that is. Minor note: I got too many courses today, won't be online for another 11 hours or so, don't expect me to answer soon. |
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2010-03-15, 02:56 | Link #3818 | ||
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*facepalms* the mods are gonna like how far this thread has strayed from the ball of yarn....
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....Why.....I think I've pointed out a zillion times that I will never think of a girl as a separate species. Ah well....
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2010-03-15, 02:57 | Link #3819 | |
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I kind of pity those people who claim to be realistic and proceed to slam others who use anime terms as out of touch, etc, then branding them as hikkikomoris. It is ironic that they do not realise that there are people who are like that existing in "reality".
As much as there is nothing wrong with people marrying their bolsters and figurines, there isn't anything wrong with going along with someone of the same sex, a geek, a nerd, an antisocial, etc. Whoever started with this kind of lousy stereotypical judgement as "unnatural people" certainly has a brain full of maggots. People choose to be what they are and do what they want, and love whoever they are interested in, so who are you exactly to judge them? Quote:
But I do agree that women are complex creatures, there was once I totally gave up on understanding them.
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2010-03-15, 03:23 | Link #3820 | |
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