2008-10-25, 22:20 | Link #1242 | |
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One other thing to note - Overtechnology apparently provided humanity with both major advances in materials science (explaining the ASS-1/SDF-1's armor strength as well as those of the Variable Fighters) as well as new energy generation and storage systems, which is why energy weapons are feasable in the Macrossverse, even if humans focus more on kinetic-kill weaponry. |
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2008-10-25, 23:21 | Link #1245 |
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Oh, another Spacebattles vet? Small internet. I usually hung around the non Sci-Fi boards, because one can only argue with 40kers and Weberites and people who think Zentraedi gunships fire teraton level beams so many times. I never was a number cruncher, but some things are just obvious one hopes.
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2008-10-25, 23:34 | Link #1246 | |
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Let's not even get started on the speed of Wrathbone-powered Eldar Titans or how Tyrannid Bio-Titans hold together (much less move) despite their incredible size and mass, especially if we're bringing in figures involving power-to-weight ratios and the tensile strength of the materials necessary to build a bone that won't be too heavy to move yet not break under the weight of all that... If anyone thought the mechanics of a Monster were a headache... |
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2008-10-25, 23:45 | Link #1247 | |
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The Sci-Fi vs. board was definately a leave your common sense at the door place, but it was fun to get the natives restless every now and then. Just like this thread, I suppose. It's more like some people need to remember that we're not discussing real life here, we're discussing Macross and what they do in universe goes. Which means if they use a VB-6 it's because it works. We can argue over the whys and hows and all that, but simply saying it can't work is silly. I mean, the VA-3s are still around in the 2040s, even if being used by pirates, and their primary role was to be transformable bomb trucks. Obviously some UN Spacy brass though they needed one, even if we never see major fighting on the ground any more. |
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For the record, I stick with the Gaunt's Ghosts depictions of lasguns, especially with the hotshots and their 'extra-juiced' packs which were designed for higher outputs at the cost of overall capacity. Emperor help anyone trying to figure out why He issued His Imperial Guard lasguns several millenia after He was interred in the Golden Throne. It's not like He himself didn't have the technology for it, during the early Crusades. Quote:
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2008-10-26, 01:52 | Link #1249 | |
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Transforming capital ships are a bit harder to justify, but navies do like their tradition. And sometimes, you just have to punch another capital ship. |
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2008-10-26, 02:12 | Link #1250 | |
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At least they didn't build this monster in the SK canon. Macross Cannon Class According to computation it's 4000 meters to 5400 meters in legnth. |
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2008-10-26, 02:26 | Link #1251 | |
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Mind you, the New Macross Class ships aren't exactly small either at nearly 1600m long (IIRC) with 700-800m-long Macross Cannons.... and the scary part of this? Since the Gunships appear to be a seperate self-contained unit, there's no real reason a single NMC-class ship couldn't carry TWO Macross Cannons in Battle Mode, in theory. The question of where you'd stick the second ship when it's not in that mode is the one that needs answering. |
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2008-10-26, 03:05 | Link #1253 | |
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Not that it helped them against a massive enemy swarm... but that's pretty much the Achilles heel of any large vessel with a big gun when faced with numerous smaller targets which can outmaneuver it. Remember the reason why battleships are no longer 'standard issue' with modern navies, a philosophy which seems to have been carried across to the Macross universe with the predominance of carrier-centric strike groups that have destroyers and the odd battleship (or more often, cruisers) escorting the carriers who represent the main striking force of a fleet. Of course, arming those carriers with huge ship/fleetkiller weapons that wouldn't be too out of place on a battleship probably has something to do with that as well... Edit: Thank god I kept the force figures handy in a separate file. Last edited by Haesslich; 2008-10-26 at 04:50. |
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2008-10-26, 10:02 | Link #1254 | |
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2008-10-26, 17:29 | Link #1255 |
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The Monster is MORE DAKKA by virtue of its very existence. The VB-6 Konig Monster is MORE DAKKA in a much more mobile package, which is probably why the team's medic got it. Major Ozma Lee gets himself hurt using knives against Vajra, while the doc who puts him back together lobs reaction warheads at them.
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2008-11-02, 18:02 | Link #1257 | |
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2008-11-02, 20:41 | Link #1258 |
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Also, if you can find one online, check out the opening introduction for Episode 6 of Macross Frontier, which gives a nice 'for beginners' summary of the process, which explains what Tak did above, but with nice computer animation.
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