2012-09-23, 13:41 | Link #2201 | ||
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The idea that Iori doesn't actually care about having a relationship with Taichi is the only one that makes sense to me. Their relationship does lack chemistry (though it's possible this is due to quick pacing as well) and Iori tries too hard to please people, so I'm actually ok with that explanation. My problem, as usual, isn't so much what the author is trying to do here, but how he does it. I'm absolutely allergic to "I won't lose" deals, especially when they're made between girls who aren't of equal status. Really, all Iori needs to do at this point is ask "Taichi, you wanna get together or not?" and the whole triangle isn't up in the air anymore. There isn't much point in dancing around the issue when they've both exchanged "I love you"s, except to give Inaba a fighting chance. What I meant by "developed for the role of a girlfriend" is how the show handles Inaba. Barring the first few episodes, Inaba's sexual moments (as far as I remember) included two references to masturbation and crawling all over Taichi. Iori...uhh. Same with deredere moments. It seems pretty clear she's been getting more attention from the writer. Iori on the other hand is developing more as a solitary character. Last edited by Blonto; 2012-09-23 at 14:19. Reason: Reworded first paragraph |
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2012-09-23, 14:22 | Link #2202 |
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I see all this discussion about whether Iori has the level of romantic feelings as Inaba. Maybe I'm missing something here... What ever happened to her mentioning to Taichi during the beginning of the second arc where emotions were getting amplified? Remember Iori said to Taichi that they should be careful because their thoughts and actions were pretty much unstable because of the current gimmick?
What I"m trying to get at is... Did Iori say that because she was just being cautious of the amplified emotions or did she really do that as a way to back off from getting closer to Taichi because she's not sure if she really loves him or not? |
2012-09-23, 15:08 | Link #2203 |
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I knew that inaban would be the one that wised up to taichi's involvement. I knew that her constant lookout for loops in everything would come into play. Besides the end shows taichi regressing as well... Good episode, even though I did end up seeing it through my nexus 7 and it was a bit choppy, but the content is there. I don't think that aoki is through the woods yet. He always said: Nana's big sister... we saw Nana. Just some thoufhta . Arty
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2012-09-23, 15:16 | Link #2204 | |
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It sort of reminds me of a situation when I was back in high school. A few friends thought one of our friends would be very compatible with this guy who was a year above us. They kept feeding her that idea to the point where when the guy did ask her out, she said yes. A week later she broke it off, her reason being that she found that she never really liked the guy in that sense. |
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2012-09-23, 23:03 | Link #2205 | |
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I think the main problem is that in a lot of love triangles you are left with a character whose entire development was meaningless if she doesn't end up with the MC. Which is actually something Kokoro Connect avoids nicely. The relationship problems are well tied in with the problems the girls are facing, so getting in or out of the triangle can benefit their characters. Also, when I was asking my sister and her friend what they'd do in Iori's situation, I found that the situation is a bit harder to describe than I thought it would be, which is a plus in my book. Last edited by Blonto; 2012-09-23 at 23:23. |
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2012-09-24, 07:23 | Link #2206 | |
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2012-09-24, 07:36 | Link #2207 | |
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Perhaps, but I also happen to find the "cliché" to be quite realistic too. The fact is most of the time the characters shouldn't be investing all those emotions at such a early age, and when you think about it, do some of the supposed "great" dramas actually make sense within the context of middle/high school romances? I almost always found the supposed "good" examples to be pretty bad when set in real life. |
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2012-09-24, 08:30 | Link #2208 |
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Maybe I'm read too much into this, but why haven't anyone here brought up the significance of the "I cut my hair late last year" comment from Nana?
Isn't that a sign that she also moved on as well prior to this meet up?
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2012-09-24, 08:37 | Link #2209 | |
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Both Aoki and Nana had moved on from their break up, though we don't really know the circumstances of that break up years ago but clearly it was mutual to an extend.
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2012-09-24, 08:44 | Link #2211 |
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Well personally it didn't seem like that big of a secret to me from her chosen words... And I'm sure most people also know it, but choose to focus on the negative 'what ifs' for argument sake.
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2012-09-24, 09:26 | Link #2215 | |
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To see people saying they were actually a couple, well that throws things in the mix a bit. For instance, why would they even break up in the first place? The first sign of trouble (we're moving apart) and they call it quits? Nana's response also makes things weird, given it meant she liked Aoki too. Giving no real reason for a break-up. So I just assumed they had a similar relationship to what Yui and Aoki currently have. Not a couple, so no real break-up, but Nana did have some feelings for Aoki. The hair-cut comment simply giving a 'I've moved on too' vibe rather than explicitly referring to love.
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2012-09-24, 09:41 | Link #2216 |
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I guess it is not really important if they were a couple or not, but speaking for myself I got the feeling they were; given how Nana reacted to his statement. If they weren't a couple I would have expected a more awkward reaction from her. She instead wasn't surprised at all IIRC.
For the haircut thing, didn't she say she cut them few days before? I somehow got the feeling that she had still some feelings for him, but that is even because to me cutting hairs is more a step forward getting over than a sign of having got over. In fact I was sorry for her and for a moment I hoped Aoki chose her
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2012-09-24, 09:54 | Link #2217 | |
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Hair means a lot to the Japanese (possibly Korean and Chinese too) since ancient times. Women cutting their long hair usually means severing their past. This gesture is still used today in many forms of media, be it literature or anime or film and stuff. Aoki doesn't need to say anything. It's a given in their culture, when a girl who used to have long hair suddenly cut it usually means she has, either willingly or reluctantly, let go and move on. |
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2012-09-24, 11:29 | Link #2218 |
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I see. Guess I didn't recognise the reference without the dramatic use-a-kunai-to-cut-hair scene.
Yes, hair meant a lot to the Chinese in ancient times, and it was considered very dishonourable for a man to have his queue cut. |
2012-09-24, 14:49 | Link #2219 | ||
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How old were they, anyway? 13? Last edited by Blonto; 2012-09-24 at 16:46. |
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That's not the first time people have broken up over long distance relationship, even if it isn't immediate the countdown has already started. People do that in real life as well you know... Quote:
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