Claymore Chapter 119

[Klashikari]

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[Weils]

Chapter spoilers by Gooral:

Originally Posted by Gooral

NEW SPOILER!!! Looks like real one this time:

Spoiler for 119 spoiler in Japanese::

作者の都合により名無しです：2011/10/01(土) 20:58:18.30 ID:cSmXcCBL0
いつものネタバレ厨だよー＾＾＾＾＾

今回はマジでネ申回。
っていっても[元ロクサーヌ（×）]カサンドラの回想だけど。

瀕死状態のおしっこマンであったがカサンドラの攻撃が突然止み棒立ち。
徐々にカサンドラの記憶が蘇るとともに死んだ時の傷跡も開いていく。
そして回想。

ロクサーヌがカサンドラに塵喰いの名を言った後、カサンドラが心から親友と思える人物と出会う 。
それはＮｏ35（シンシア似）の戦士で覚醒者討伐に失敗した唯一の生き残り。
誰にも見せまいと人前では封印していた技であったが、うかつにも使ってしまい後悔するものの、そのＮｏ35 （シンシア似）は泣きながら感謝する。
それ以降カサンドラとＮｏ35は親密な関係になっていくが、とある日にＮｏ35（シンシア似）とロクサーヌ （当時Ｎｏ2）が同じ覚醒者狩りに参加。

そしてその後、そのＮｏ35を残しロクサーヌと一緒にいた戦士は失敗という形にして戻ってきた という。
（Ｎｏ35（シンシア似）はﾚｲｰﾌﾟされまくったあげく虐殺された）
カサンドラマジギレして組織の戦士全員を敵に回すもロクサーヌ+全戦士相手には叶わずリンチ。

この記憶が完全に蘇り、[元ロクサーヌ（×）]カサンドラ覚醒。

こんなカンジだった。確実にカサンドラ（覚醒体）ｖｓロクサーヌだけど、ロクサーヌまだ余裕ある顔してたし これは負けそうだな・・・
まじ感動ものだったからカサンドラに勝ってもらいたい。そして友の仇とってもらいたいわ。
（勝機があるとしたらダーエが覚醒することに対してわかっている素振りだった何か裏がありそう・・くらいか な）

397 ：作者の都合により名無しです：2011/10/01(土) 21:01:34.92 ID:cSmXcCBL0
ああ。でもカサンドラまじでいいわ。感動したわ。もうやばいよ。カサンドラ。
これでカサンドラ派増殖しそう。そして逆にロクサーヌ市ね厨が沸きそう。

あとオシッコマン、カサンドラの血ふぶきでぶっかけ描写あったしオシッコマン好きにはいいかも しれん。

Spoiler for Google translate::

The nameless, due to the author: 2011/10/01 (Sat) 20:58:18.30 ID: cSmXcCBL0
Netabare kitchen always seems ^^^^^

Seriously Shin times this value.
What is even if [Roxanne yuan (×)] but Cassandra's reminiscences.

Cassandra attacks ceased suddenly standing upright man pee was moribund.
Open wounds will also revive memories of Cassandra dies along slowly.
And reminiscence.

After saying the name is Cassandra Roxanne dust pile, he meets a friend who seems sincerely and Cassandra.
It No35 (Cynthia) failed to subdue the only survivor in the wake of warriors.
If anyone is in front of others was 見Semai technique had been sealed, but inadvertently ends up using to regret, No35 that (Cynthia) is grateful tears.
No35 Cassandra and later become a close relationship, No35 on the day with (Cynthia) and Roxanne (No2 at the time) who participates in hunting the same awakening.

And then, along with the warriors had left No35 Roxanne is said to come back to the form of failure.
(No35 (Cynthia) was massacred Saremakuttaageku Reifu)
Roxanne + warrior against all warriors can make an enemy of everyone by Cassandra Majigire organization is 叶Wazu Lynch.

This memory is fully revived, Roxanne yuan (×)] Cassandra arousal.

Was like this. Cassandra ensure (a wake) I vs Roxanne, which still had a lot to look generous and likely will lose Roxanne
Was the hope of winning the Cassandra Seriously impressed. And I want to take the old friend.
(How much of what was likely behind the attitude that you know to be awake If there's a chance to win Dae)

397: The nameless, due to the author: 2011/10/01 (Sat) 21:01:34.92 ID: cSmXcCBL0
Oh. Cassandra was also good for real. I was impressed. I already dangerous. Cassandra.
Cassandra likely to grow in this school. Roxanne city aside so I reversed and kitchen.

Man Pee later, and was like man piss bukkake Representative in blizzards Cassandra blood test may be good.

Edit:

Spoiler for ch. 119:

Looks like Raftela has brought Cassandra's memory back and Cassandra or Roxanne (probably Cassandra) awakened. And looks like we'll see Cassie vs. Roxy fight after all. It looks like we will also see how Cassandra was killed (126 slashes are mentioned).

I finally might give the chapter something more than 7 after all this time.

[Gooral]

And here's the Chinese version which you will understand Weils:

Spoiler for Chinese spoiler from TSS, posted by Gene:

本次可算真!神!回!
雖然這麼說但大部份都是卡桑德拉的回憶。

奧黛莉瀕死時卡桑德拉的攻擊突然停止。
伴隨著卡桑德拉記憶的逐漸恢復，死亡時的傷口也慢慢展開。
然後以下是回憶部份

在羅克將卡桑德拉命名為"食塵者"以後，卡桑德拉與一位交心的人物相遇了。
這位No.35（畫得像辛西婭的龍套）的戰士是討伐覺醒者失敗后唯一倖存的。
卡桑德拉在大意使用了從來不讓他人看見的在人前封印的技能的同時，這位No。35（畫得像辛西婭的龍套）一 把鼻涕一把眼淚地表示感謝。
從此以後卡桑德拉與這名No.35的關係就親密起來了，有一天No.35（畫得像辛西婭的龍套）跟羅克珊（ 當時的No.2)一同參加了覺醒者的狩獵。

(那場討伐中)丟下了No.35，跟羅克珊在一起的戰士鎩羽而歸。
[No.35（畫得像辛西婭的龍套）不管怎麼東躲西藏最終還是被虐殺]
卡桑德拉瞬間暴走與組織全員為敵，但以羅克珊+全戰士的陣容為敵自然無法如願慘遭處刑（就是那個全身126 刀）。

記憶完全恢復后，卡桑德拉覺醒!

大體上就是這麼個內容。事實上雖然是卡桑德拉用覺醒體vs羅克珊，羅克珊仍然遊刃有餘，恐怕(前者)是要輸 。

真的很感動所以希望卡桑德拉能贏。然後為百合友報仇。

（要說勝算的話，達耶明知道會覺醒還是自擺烏龍，恐怕還有其它黑幕）

[Weils]

Originally Posted by Gooral

And here's the Chinese version which you will understand Weils:

Spoiler for Chinese spoiler:

本次可算真!神!回!
雖然這麼說但大部份都是卡桑德拉的回憶。

奧黛莉瀕死時卡桑德拉的攻擊突然停止。
伴隨著卡桑德拉記憶的逐漸恢復，死亡時的傷口也慢慢展開。
然後以下是回憶部份

在羅克將卡桑德拉命名為"食塵者"以後，卡桑德拉與一位交心的人物相遇了。
這位No.35（畫得像辛西婭的龍套）的戰士是討伐覺醒者失敗后唯一倖存的。
卡桑德拉在大意使用了從來不讓他人看見的在人前封印的技能的同時，這位No。35（畫得像辛西婭的龍套）一 把鼻涕一把眼淚地表示感謝。
從此以後卡桑德拉與這名No.35的關係就親密起來了，有一天No.35（畫得像辛西婭的龍套）跟羅克珊（ 當時的No.2)一同參加了覺醒者的狩獵。

(那場討伐中)丟下了No.35，跟羅克珊在一起的戰士鎩羽而歸。
[No.35（畫得像辛西婭的龍套）不管怎麼東躲西藏最終還是被虐殺]
卡桑德拉瞬間暴走與組織全員為敵，但以羅克珊+全戰士的陣容為敵自然無法如願慘遭處刑（就是那個全身126 刀）。

記憶完全恢復后，卡桑德拉覺醒!

大體上就是這麼個內容。事實上雖然是卡桑德拉用覺醒體vs羅克珊，羅克珊仍然遊刃有餘，恐怕(前者)是要輸 。

真的很感動所以希望卡桑德拉能贏。然後為百合友報仇。

（要說勝算的話，達耶明知道會覺醒還是自擺烏龍，恐怕還有其它黑幕）

Direct translation:

Most of the chapter contents are Cassandra's flashbacks.

Audrey is about to be killed by Cassandra but she suddenly stops her attack.
As her memories reawaken, Cassandra's wounds (from the time she first died) split back open. Next are the flashbacks.

Just after Roxanne named Cassandra the "Dust-Eater", Cassandra met another warrior who she can confide in. Cassandra's friend's name is not revealed here in this translation, who is ranked no. 35, and resembles Cynthia, was the only survivor of an AB hunt. Seems like Cassandra rescued no. 35 with her dust-eating technique, but no. 35 was not affected and she just shed tears while thanking her for her help. From then on, Cassandra became very close with no. 35.

One day, no. 35 went on an AB hunt with Roxanne (who was no. 2 by then at the time). However, Roxanne abandoned no. 35 with their other comrades to the AB, leading to no. 35's death. Cassandra went out of control upon hearing her best friend's demise and went on a rampage against the Organization. It took Roxanne and all the other warriors to kill Cassandra, and she was slashed 126 times before she eventually died.

The flashback ends here and Cassandra immediately awakens upon reacquiring her memories. So chapter ends with AB Cassandra vs. Roxanne.

[Ryus]

Wow... I find myself fully agreeing with Gooral two spoilers in a row. Maybe it's something I ate (it was an apple )

Seriously though, this plot has potential... really hoping it is true.

Thanks for the translation weils

[Tom Bombadil]

Ryus, most likely it is true. It has all the marks of previous true spoiler. In addition to what Weils tranlated, there are also couple of remarks.

Spoiler for chap119:

Then the guy also remarked that Roxanne seems to be unfazed facing awakened Cassandra, and it seems that Dae was also relaxed about the awaking so it smelt conspiracy.

[Gooral]

Thanks Weils and Tom Bombadil for your translations:

Originally Posted by Tom Bombadil

Yep, this got to be the real deal, we need the Chapter 119 thread.

Cassandra gets her memory back.

She met her future BBF, No. 35 and the sole survivor of a AB hunting mission. Cassandra has to used a sealed-away technique never shown to anyone to save her.

On a certain day, No.35 and No.2 Roxanne joins a AB hunting team. The rest of the team came back in terrible form without No.35, who was raped, tortured and killed.
Cassandra went mad and turned on the organization.

Back to the current timeline, Cassandra awakens.

Then the guy also remarked that Roxanne seems to be unfazed facing awakened Cassandra, and it seems that Dae was also relaxed about the awaking.
He also said that the chapter was very moving, and the Cassandra fans would multiply!

[Ryus]

Is it just me or does the idea of an entire chapter devoted to one character and those that mess with her just feel good... like the pre pieta days. There has been too many split chapters of late imho

[Gooral]

I agree it's better. Having characters all over the island and jumping from one to another makes chapters less fluent and the story feels more artificial and forced. It also makes the story look as if it doesn't progress at all or it goes very slow.

Going back to spoiler, google translation was really good this time. I've practically understood everything. I didn't mention about Roxanne since it seemed almost impossible but I'm glad it came true. Looks like I was right about her (Roxanne) being the strongest (unless she's just stupid and isn't afraid of anyone or anything). I wonder though if it's already time for 22 pages though... Looks like it to be honest assuming it was all that happened.

Oh, and in next month Claymore won't have color page either. I hope it will get one in this year, it was already stripped of one in May.

[Tom Bombadil]

Originally Posted by Ryus

Is it just me or does the idea of an entire chapter devoted to one character and those that mess with her just feel good... like the pre pieta days. There has been too many split chapters of late imho

Seems that BFFs are ubiquitous among the Claymores. Clare has hers, Miria has one, too, Hellen has Deneve, now Cassandra has her bed warmer BFF as well.

[Gooral]

BBF? Belly Button Fluff?

On a serious note, looks like we have two awakened "Mirias" and two "Ophelias". They both lost a dear friend due to psycho's meddling, although Cassandra's friend had it much worse it seems. After all she was raped by AB (I don't remember any other case it happened earlier, I know youma raped but not ABs) and tortured. Couldn't be worse.

[Tom Bombadil]

Ahh, I just realized that 虐杀された maybe better translated as "killed in a cruel way" than "tortured and killed". But you get the idea. and of course I meant BFF. :P

[Shiek927]

Roflmao, I'm aware it was clunky; no reason to delete my post though . Oh well

I agree with you Ryus; long-drawn out chapters with huge focus on character development is what I miss and the way to go -- I was never crazy for the huge jumping back and forth, especially often in a single chapter, that the story turned too the past couple of years; like the focus suddenly changed to beautiful art and action rather then great story-telling. It seems to be shifting back to that though.

As for the spoiler though; the only thing that feels weird to me is that Cassandra's wounds would reopen just because she remembered her memories....that seems just plain weird to me. Just because I remember a bruise, doesn't mean I'll suddenly have it back. It would make sense though if Cassandra was still actually feeling the effects of the wounds, because she still was actually damaged (perhaps the revival didn't actually heal them) and the damage just now caught up with her "new" body which triggered the return of her memories.

[Gooral]

Originally Posted by Tom Bombadil

Ahh, I just realized that 虐杀された maybe better translated as "killed in a cruel way" than "tortured and killed". But you get the idea. and of course I meant BFF. :P

BBF could also mean "Best Best Friend" and I thought you meant that.

As for your translation, that changes things a bit but still there is a difference being killed by a Claymore and being killed by an AB. Compared to Cassandra Miria had no reason to go crazy, Hilda would have been killed either way. In terms of being a cutthroat bitch Roxanne wins by far with Ophelia. She's on a whole different level in every possible way it seems.

[Shiek927]

Originally Posted by Gooral

BBF could also mean "Best Best Friend" and I thought you meant that.

As for your translation, that changes things a bit but still there is a difference being killed by a Claymore and being killed by an AB. Compared to Cassandra Miria had no reason to go crazy, Hilda would have been killed either way. In terms of being a cutthroat bitch Roxanne wins by far with Ophelia. She's on a whole different level in every possible way it seems.

Miria almost awakened because Ophelia threw salt on her wounds - but you're right: Roxanne is definitely the vile horrific character we have ever seen in Claymore thus far; Ophelia looks like small-time compared to her.

And that's right; I haven't heard of a case of a warrior being raped by a AB before - then again, when you remember Dauf and his brutish attempts, it's probably not as uncommon as all that.

[Nixl]

Just in time, I finished my LSAT today. Going to enjoy this chapter if the spoilers are true.

[Korinov]

Spoilers look quite promising this time. I hope we get to see more than just a few flashback pages and Cass' awakening though.

[Ryus]

Originally Posted by Shiek927

Miria almost awakened because Ophelia threw salt on her wounds - but you're right: Roxanne is definitely the vile horrific character we have ever seen in Claymore thus far; Ophelia looks like small-time compared to her.

And that's right; I haven't heard of a case of a warrior being raped by a AB before - then again, when you remember Dauf and his brutish attempts, it's probably not as uncommon as all that.

Yeah, Miria was just very vaunerable when Ophelia revealed what she did... as to Roxanne holy s*** that is just messed up, knowing her she likely watched it from afar too. I knew she make a great antagonist and I very much agree with gooral again, Roxanne is very likely the strongest and back to the restated idea thats been floated around will likely be shown to be uber strong after destroying an awakened AO (Cassanda it appears) like Teresa and Priscilla did. The ghosts will likely arrive just in time to evac the survivors... I wonder if the winner of the Hysteria vs Miria fight awakens and also gets killed by her to buy the evacuation time.

As to rape... well Clare was implied to have been raped by her brother and then the yoma (why she defended Teresa most likely since she couldnt let hero go through what she did, even with how weak and scared she was) and the sixarmed AB seemed like he might take his time with the fab 4... just maybe he might have taken it to the next level after a bit.

[fraktur]

The fact that Dae isn't concerned doesn't have to imply that Roxanne is just that superior to Cassendra. It could also be that he just wants to know which of his creations is the "most perfect". Remember, at the end of the day Dae is Dae. And Dae doesn't give a shit about the organization if he can expand his experiments. Hell, if he knew about the Claire/Priscilla blob he wouldn't hesitate to release them just for the lulz!
Also Cassandra is "just a regular No 5 with a super strong technique". Of course Roxanne doesn't really care about her. I wouldn't conclude that Roxanne is on the "Priscilla"-lvl. based on these facts. We don't even know how she fights maybe her special abillities are just that advantageous?

That aside, I also suspect that she is the strongest of the three tbh. And as we know she can erase her yoki so Raftela can't help Cassandra. It would be interesting seeing the ghosts siding with an awakend to kill the "real monster".

[Ulquihorror]

what really interests me is the fact that cassandra's wounds reopened as she remembered her death and the conditions behind it. Maybe we can draw parallels to how claymores heal their bodies? If I recall correctly, galatea said that regenerating grandly depends on one's memories. What if the same logic is applied here? If that was the case, Raftela could even help offensive warriors regenerate
She could even kill roxanne and hysteria. It would be weird if rafetla plunged into one of those two's mind and extract the exact memory of their head getting chopped off so a wound open and their head actually drop without any physical contact