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Old 2011-11-08, 19:40   Link #1141
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Whaaaaaaaaaaattt....!

Let's see, light novel, then a drama CD, then an anime - I'm not sure if there's a manga - so, what can this be?

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Old 2011-11-08, 23:39   Link #1142
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This?
http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-5123.html

Jeanne in anime?
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Old 2011-11-08, 23:54   Link #1143
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Probably in a Caster flashback then.
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Old 2011-11-09, 04:12   Link #1144
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Whaaaaaaaaaaattt....!

Let's see, light novel, then a drama CD, then an anime - I'm not sure if there's a manga - so, what can this be?
There is manga that currently serialized in Young Ace.
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Old 2011-11-09, 09:38   Link #1145
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Tonight, my IRL friends and I stumbled upon what we think is the most unprofessional, painful review ever...

Carlo Santos's review of eps 1-6 of Fate/Zero for ANN

Words can't describe how utterly appalled I am that they would even let that be published. There really needs to be a second alternative to ANN's role in the West...this is beyond a joke anymore. Not that I thought that highly of them ever, but...that is a disgrace. For it to be commercially used is just criminal.

I seriously hope that load of crap doesn't deter US anime fans from even trying Fate/Zero, let alone buy it...Way to let your personal agenda get in the way, AS ALWAYS, Santos! And you wonder why a considerable proportion of Japanese otaku think Westerners are crazy...thanks for being part of the problem, you incompetent fool.

*facepalm*

I'm going to continue reading the original novels to get over that nonsense.


Amusing that in the course of a couple of weeks, they interview Urobuchi, they promote the extra F/Z material. Then they get one of their reviewers - who is clearly ill-equipped and has little to no knowledge of the Type-Moon universe and Fate universe - and have the gall to allow that to be published and affect the possibility of people choosing whether to watch/buy it based on that review. Are they trying to kill this show in the West?! Or did they simply think it was funny if they got a shock jock style review to counter the hype?

Normally wouldn't care so much about the opinions of others, but if you're being paid to do a commercial review, you have to put aside personal biases to a significant degree and try to be objective.
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Old 2011-11-09, 09:52   Link #1146
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Why do people even bother with ANN, it's just a relic of history; their encyclopedia is poorer (both in content and UI) than community maintained ones (plural!!!), the site is slow, and the reviewers, editors, and programmers are simply put... outdated by at least half a decade.

For the main complain... exposition... well, maybe Carlos Santos (the reviewer) should watch any other LN-adaption, instead of american action films for the brain-dead, say Horizon
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Old 2011-11-09, 10:45   Link #1147
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Why do people even bother with ANN, it's just a relic of history; their encyclopedia is poorer (both in content and UI) than community maintained ones (plural!!!), the site is slow, and the reviewers, editors, and programmers are simply put... outdated by at least half a decade.
Agree in some part, but their encyclopedia isn't poor. They have the most complete staff listing, including staff that only appear in certain episode. That really helping if you interested in Sakuga. You only got better than that if you can read japanese wiki or the episode credit.

I'm never bothered to read their review though.
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Old 2011-11-09, 11:11   Link #1148
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I mainly check them up for some news items. There's far better databases and communities out there.

But they're a place that the greener anime fan goes to, since they're one of the easier to find. Newbies around my parts talk about what they read on there. Plus both licensing companies over here associate with them to get material pushed/streamed, so they matter somewhat. Hence my anger at said review.
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Old 2011-11-09, 11:25   Link #1149
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I mainly check them up for some news items. There's far better databases and communities out there.

But they're a place that the greener anime fan goes to, since they're one of the easier to find. Newbies around my parts talk about what they read on there. Plus both licensing companies over here associate with them to get material pushed/streamed, so they matter somewhat. Hence my anger at said review.
True, but surfing many blog for little bit of infos can be tiring

Btw, I'm too "scared" to open that review link, don't want my stomach feel funny due to anger

And one should not worry that review could stirred away people to watching/buying it. F/Z is a product for Fate/Type-moon fans anyway, and they are mostly people that well versed about anime.

I will never recommend F/Z to casual watcher or even anime fan that never touch /Fate.
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Old 2011-11-09, 13:52   Link #1150
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Exactly as you said, this review is from the POV of someone who isn't a Type-moon universe fan. BTW, I'm not one as well and rather than watching the series I read blogs sinopsis about the plot and just watch online the action parts except maybe for Iscandar and Waver team since their charisma forced me to watch them and maybe, to some degree, Kariya's determination, I can't say much about the others.
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Old 2011-11-09, 15:28   Link #1151
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Tonight, my IRL friends and I stumbled upon what we think is the most unprofessional, painful review ever...

Carlo Santos's review of eps 1-6 of Fate/Zero for ANN
Uh lol, what's wrong with his review ? He's not trolling or anything and I agree with him on some points. It's not because he's not agreed with you that his review is bad.

I'm a TYpe-Moon Fan and I don't find Fate Zero OMG super great. Right now, it's good but that's all.
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Old 2011-11-09, 15:33   Link #1152
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I dont see any spoiler thread for the series. I'll just put it here.
[SPOILER="Jeanne De Arc"]]
It's Jeanne d'Arc, not Jeanne De Arc
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Old 2011-11-09, 15:40   Link #1153
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Hey, it's not french, Kusa.
So ... Anyways, i prefer a movie about Jeanne d'Arc ... Like another timeline with two Sabers. **
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Old 2011-11-09, 15:43   Link #1154
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Jeanne in anime?
Yes, and now confirmed!

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Old 2011-11-09, 17:59   Link #1155
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Did I read right?
This is the prequel to the orginal show? ... If it is I do not need to watch this, the orginal was soooo sad.
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Old 2011-11-09, 20:06   Link #1156
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Agree in some part, but their encyclopedia isn't poor. They have the most complete staff listing, including staff that only appear in certain episode. That really helping if you interested in Sakuga. You only got better than that if you can read japanese wiki or the episode credit.

I'm never bothered to read their review though.
Try aniDB for comprehensive and searchable animation staff

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Uh lol, what's wrong with his review ? He's not trolling or anything and I agree with him on some points. It's not because he's not agreed with you that his review is bad.

I'm a TYpe-Moon Fan and I don't find Fate Zero OMG super great. Right now, it's good but that's all.
You know what, worse (and more common than trolling) is ignorance. You don't ask a brain-dead action fanboy to review a show that has that pesky feature called plot. And as if that is not enough, you post it on a newbie site

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It's Jeanne d'Arc, not Jeanne De Arc
Jannu Daruku... I first read/interpreted it as Jean Dark, for an french/english fusion, and thankfully wikipedia has gotten very good at redirecting

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Old 2011-11-09, 22:42   Link #1157
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ANN has a horrible reputation for its reviews.
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Old 2011-11-10, 06:42   Link #1158
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From tha Fate Wiki :

http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/List_...pha_characters

Spoiler for Jeanne d'Arc:
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Old 2011-11-10, 08:44   Link #1159
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Tonight, my IRL friends and I stumbled upon what we think is the most unprofessional, painful review ever...

Carlo Santos's review of eps 1-6 of Fate/Zero for ANN
I read the article itself and find it fair as the writer clearly isn't accustomed to this type of writing. It's understandable that this type of story is not meant for everyone. Oh well at least he acknowledged some strong points in this adaptation~

Then I scroll down and see the grading

Story: D!?
Art : C+!?


Not sure trolling or if he had smoked waaaaaaay too much
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Old 2011-11-10, 09:39   Link #1160
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That guy is an idiot. Saying it's a spin off... the fool.
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