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-------------- Based on the spoilers, some other observations: -Is it Suigetsu doing the summon? Or is he doing the same thing Kabuto and Oro were doing to Summon Manda? “A assisted summon” -I had the suspicions since sometime now that there was a higher commander inside Akatsuki, the plot about Akatsuki gets interesting once again. -Tobi is dead (presumed), now we know what Deidara. was referring to That “Sorry”. -If Tobi is dead, then Adios Theories of Tobi is Obito, and we can pretty much discard any sort of relationship between Fake AL, and Naruto, as Sabakyu said, he just become another Akatsuki soldier. And the words of the real leader, I wonder why he is ordering to kill Naruto, don’t they need them now? Why specifically Nartuo? Either way, Sending Fake AL and Akatsuki girl to kill Naruto, could be an indication of who are the next Akatsuki that are going to die.
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2007-07-18, 11:03 | Link #43 |
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-This proves it! We have seen too much of Sasuke lately and now we think every other character looks like him, even characters with the opposite gender (j/k). Damn, it's like a badly written fanfiction.
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2007-07-18, 11:12 | Link #44 | ||
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It is more like a very rich - Sasuke-obsessed - brat is paying Kishi off for his extreme efforts leading that direction. I wonder for how much money did he sell his creativity for???
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2007-07-18, 11:16 | Link #45 | |
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-Not even the power of a god is absolute. Great though it might be it does have one major flaw, it cannot grow any further once it reaches it's peak. On the other hand the power of man might start out weak but given proper nurturing the man's power has the ability to constantly grow, eventually exceeding the power of a god. If Sasuke is a "god" right now then it's just a matter of time before it is exceeded by someone else (for example Naruto). Great line though BTW, "god fell from a tree that way".
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2007-07-18, 11:42 | Link #46 | |||
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Seriously, if his choices are been influenced by an outside factor, it should be a combination of market trends and pressure from the Editors, in this case, those Sasuke obsessed Brat are those fans that buy the manga, which a lot of them has Sasuke as their favorite character. Quote:
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Well, I’m going to do what I promised in the last thread, and Im going to take a vacation from this week chapter discussion…
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And, with the ultra-plain goal they have, and losing members non-stop to a bunch of weaklings, I doubt Akatsuki will ever get interesting again... |
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2007-07-18, 11:52 | Link #48 |
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i dont think tobi is dead. he hasnt even done anything to warrant a quick meaningless death. if they say hes dead, then a surprise hes alive and kicking will show up.
and the sasuke power up after power up...i no longer care how powerful he becomes. because no matter what, naruto will have to get as strong as that. and itachi will always be that little bit stronger.
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2007-07-18, 11:55 | Link #49 |
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I like how some of you are immediately bagging on "the great" Sasuke for having to have being lent some chakra to summon Manda, when Deidara had to have Tobi plant those mines for him in their combo attack, PLUS he was there the whole time. I'm not a Sasuke-fanboy as I've said many times but stop putting him down just because you have failed to observe what the opponent did (and just out of pure hatred).
Most of you would say Sasuke would be dead if it weren't for Suigetsu in this spoiler and I agree, most likely true. But the whole fight would've turned out completely different if Tobi wasn't there to plant those sphere mines into the ground for Deidara. Everyone needed help in one form or the other. They both ran out of chakra, of course he'd need help in summoning Manda. It's a Kage-level summon if I can remember.
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2007-07-18, 11:56 | Link #50 |
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Let me just say this, Naruto as he is right now, does not stand a chance against Sasuke. Even if he finishes his wind jutsu or does the things he currently knows, still, that result will not change. Against Sasuke's genjutsu, Naruto currently has no way to protect himself. He cannot control himself, he cannot borrow Kyuubi's power, his summon cannot do anything, nothing. And, I doubt Sasuke would play the idiot against Naruto, a ninja with almost no genjutsu skill, and avoid using his sharingan. So, Kishi needs to come up with something completely out-of-ordinary if he wants to at least bring balance, forget about being the stronger one, that is not even an issue right now.
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2007-07-18, 12:02 | Link #51 |
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Well they fought against Itachi pretty damn well, even though it was a shapeshifted clone. He still used the same genjutsu and he did get caught in it yes. But I doubt after that that he did not ask Kakashi to help him learn how to defeat/resist the genjutsu even more. Since Jiraiya taught him the basics, there has to be better methods for it and I'm 100% sure Kakashi could give Naruto a tip or two, even though he doesn't have the Sharingan.
Plus he has the Shadow Clones etc etc, there CAN be ways to avoid it. The thing I'm confused about now is, the Sharingan can tell which are the Shadow Clones right? I remember Sasuke being able to know (I could be wrong). So why in the anime (didn't read the manga for this part), does Itachi have to catch him in Tsukiyomi first to then realize he was a Kage Bunshin?
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2007-07-18, 12:09 | Link #52 |
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If Oro and Deidara, the two people who are the most obsessed ones regarding Sharingan, and the former being a very high-skilled genjutsu user himself, couldn't have a chance to achieve that feature, Naruto, who sucks at using/defending against genjutsu, and who cannot even stop looking at Sasuke for a second, does not have any kind of chance, especially since the word fair has been erased from the only vocabulary Sasuke follows.
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2007-07-18, 12:19 | Link #54 |
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first off thank god they finally showed AL face. puts to rest the thousands of theories that he is yondaime.
secondly the animal boss fight between the 3 sannins. jiriya combined flame with the frogs oil to blast an insanely large area to defeat manda. what did manda do? he went underground in an instant to avoid the heavy blast.whos to say manda didnt do the same here. after all self preservation is greater than all. and whats this about tobi being built up? only people who built tobi up where the fanbois who all thought tobi was obito. other than that tobi's whole appearance into the manga series has been nothing but filler or comic rise. |
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Just because he couldn't stop Itachi's genjutsu doesn't mean that he can't stop Sasuke's. Your entire post and the related string of conclusions has absolutely no basis. |
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2007-07-18, 12:47 | Link #56 |
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You people are obsessed with predicting the future in this series. To a point where its annoying, like whenever a spoiler comes out saying "looks like Tobi is dead" you all jump on a bandwagon and say "oh damn he's gone already?" then following with a prediction of what Kishimoto intended or where the series is going (usually how long it will last), ultimately trying to figure out the longevity and credibility of the series as a whole. Aren't you people supposed to be fans?
*groans* Anyway... Tobi dead? Doubtful, just like Orochimaru. AL DOES look like Naruto, but from a different village and orange hair. So some of you with your fantasies about him being Yondaime/Madara can rest. Maybe he's related to Naruto? A long lost brother perhaps? If so, this could correlate to a more detailed look at Naruto's mysterious past like his parents and so forth. If indeed there is someone higher up then AL, maybe THAT could be Madara OR maybe even Yondaime but that's a longshot by a mile so lets not get too far ahead of ourselves. |
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Sasuke was going to live so I don't care how Kishi decided to make that happen. The appearance of the BH and AL, Tobi and Deidara's death, and the reveal that there is a higher up in Akatsuki, make this chapter one of the most important in a long time.
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The only reason I stated the idea (that may or may not be true) is because of their resemblence. That's all. Hell maybe he's a clone? Or just looks like Naruto for no apparant reason? It doesn't really matter to me I just gave a theory without dropping my own blood on it believing it as truth like some crazed religious fanatic. Read more carefully nexttime, because I do use the words "maybe" and "if so". |
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