2007-12-25, 01:42 | Link #62 |
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I finished this series a couple days ago. It was pretty good, and the music was enjoyable. Overall, it was a worthy purchase. Though, I thought Fasalina was kind of annoying. All of you seem to like her, and she may be hot, but she still annoyed me. A bunch of those followers of The Claw should have kicked Michael out of his armour and proceeded to gang-**** Fasalina until she was no more. Hehe, sorry.
Though, speaking of Fasalina, did anyone else notice in episode 21 when Van and Fasalina fight, they show a close up on her face were it looks like she is on her back, and there are scenes with Van thrusting his "sword" a few times as she moans? If you listen to Vans voice in Japanese, he grunt like the guys in hentai. It made me laugh. Am I the only who made that connotation? Please tell me I'm not the only pervert that thought this. |
2008-04-23, 00:09 | Link #64 | |
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Perhaps mother was the original Endless Illusion, before all the bad things happened. Wouldn't this explain or at least clarify why when Van fights the claw's armour that he says "He's getting his power from Mother"? (mother Earth?) If so it's not an uncommon theme in show, like Thundercats had 3rd Earth - the Earth had started over twice before. This is how I took it, Mother was the Earth in its innocence before all the crap (at least from the CM's pov). Mother could also refer to mother earth or love itself which could be why when Van thought of Elena when the CM had him knocked down, he got that burst of energy. I mean think about it, what else would the CM mean if he said that mother had given Van his energy? If it was another planet surely it would have been alluded to more prominently throughout the series wouldn't it? Or we would have seen then energy come from another planet. Plus EI has one moon like Earth, as I said, this is how i interpreted it., not saying anythign else is wrong. On the side, you think about the term Endless Illusion and why they call the planet by this name, it would explain why Ray dies, and then wakes up from a dream and goes to his wife/fiancee. Our existence relies heavily on our brains to interpret reality, i.e. Eyes don't see, they send impulses to the brain which creates an image. Sort of like videogames, I know some people who have made simple games and the whole time the world moves around the characters and not the other way. i.e. We think something is 'real', but in the end nobody knows if anything is, or maybe everything is a dream (like Ray). Ray's death spells it out, if you died and then woke up from a dream, you would never know that you died and it would possibly go on and on etc. i.e. Endless Illusion. In my eyes, this is why GunxSword had a constant reference to dreams(and goals), mostly the CM pushing his dreams onto others. Van had a dream, to marry Elena, the his goal became revenge. Wendy dreamed of getting her brother back, then her goal became saving him and helping Van. CM's dream was wiping EI clean and and his goal became starting over with his conciousness living on. He tried to change reality itself because he saw human existence being a burden to the planet, so by making every life form a replica of him, he was also fulfilling the ultimate act of selfishness while believing it was for the good of the planet. It was very well thought out though. And for those who said that Van's character didn't develop, think back to when he was fighting William and it was Dann vs Metsa. Van wanted to run away, and then he decided to fight on when he finally cracked the code to that trinket Gadved gave him and realised that Elena was still with him in spirit I think he said "Elena why don't you try to live a little more". Van started changing in ep. 11 to being hateful and burning with revenge and almost a madman when he found the CM. He then found out that when Metsa kicked his ass, that hatred alone wasn't enough to fuel his sense of vendetta, and this is when he cracked the code and thought about Elena. The revenge stayed with him all the way through, however, and in the last episode, he thought of all his friends and Elena(in particular) drove him to succeed. I'm personally glad that Van's character didn't all come out in the last episode and that it was strung out, because that would have been too sappy. As for those who think his revenge was too one-dimensional, I would refute that by saying that Van's burning desire for revenge was so strong that it saved the world. his character development wasn't as obvious as Ray's at the very end when he chose to help everyone (josh in particular) by clogging that machine with a bullet he fired, but it was still there. |
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2008-05-07, 20:29 | Link #65 |
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Due to the slim pickings in these recent seasons, my endeavour to catch up with older series continues and Gun X Sword is the latest one to be on my current marathon list.
First thing first, I was surprised to find out that it involved mecha. If anything, my primary reason was to see the psychoticism of Van and I must have missed the memo on the involvement of mecha. Secondly, I am positively delighted to see the play on clichés in the first few episodes, from the post-apocalyptic episode one (ala Trigun) to the "Sentai" episode three, and HELL, it was a Mexican-themed Sentai-team. How awesome is that? I don't care if it's grossly corny. "Adios, amigo." is an AWESOME thing to say during the finality of an explosion; just like "Explosion." "The End." "Hasta la vista, baby." etc... Thirdly, I was perked to see that AIC was involved in making this. After watching Black Heaven and Seto no Hanayome, I am willing to consider AIC as a pedigree studio. I have high hopes that the entertainment value of Gun X Sword will not nosedive in the episodes to come. Cheers.
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I just wonder if anyone else feels the way I do after watching this series or if I'm just weird =/ Last edited by uberdonut; 2009-03-23 at 09:00. |
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2009-03-23, 02:50 | Link #67 | |
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Those who don't know, El Dora V is a direct to the King of Braves: And that El Dora V clip is from the latest SRW, SRWK on the DS. Anyway some of Dann of Thursday's awesomeness from the game:
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2009-03-23, 10:59 | Link #69 |
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In the show, episode 3, because El Dora V lost the left arm, it can only do a one handed "Hell and Heaven", so its just "Hell" lol
El Dora V's "Hell" arm was shown charged with power the same as Gaogaigar's. It crushed the enemy, and then exploded with El Dora V posing exactly how Gaogaigar poses with a Hell and Heaven finish. SRW, they like to complete fanservices, since El Dora V didn't lose the "Heaven" arm in the game, why not do a complete service? SRW is awesome lol
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2009-04-04, 08:59 | Link #72 | |
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But yea, the attack is called "Cielo y Infenero". Spanish for "Heaven and Hell". While it took the form of Gaogaigar, it would be dumb to not mention how all the original units were animals like Golion (Voltron) and how they combine also like Voltron or Combattler V or Voltes V. Not to mention they all are actually 5 robots to make one bigger, stronger one. |
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2009-07-01, 14:28 | Link #73 |
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Just finished watching gun x sword today, and I thought it was a very good show. On the surface its great, its a fairly over the top mecha series, with colorful well drawn characters. the villains are different, the hero is different, and while the show generally followed a route one would expect, the main antagonist and protagonist, are what made the show a little different. As far as characters go, I liked quite a few of them. I thought Wendy was adorable, Joshua was hilarious, and you grow to like Van as the show goes on. As far as villains go, the Claw Man is one of the few villains I could actually consider 'unhinged'. Fasalina, ( yeah yeah, I know ) was probably my favorite character in the show, up until the last couple of episodes shes just soo badass. no one could touch her. and I found her character extremely sexy (Especially in a swimsuit *drool* ). Michael on the other hand, I was slightly dissapointed with, as I felt a lot could have been done with him. The 'conflict' in him only shows towards the very end of the show, and while it was hinted at, that aspect of him could have been developed better. If theres anything that makes this show suffer, its lack of character development. Dont get me wrong, its there, but I would have liked to see more. Another complaint is that I thought there were few too many characters in the ' group of misfits '. Apart from that there isnt much I can really take away.
Thats on the surface. Underneath the plot and characters, are the themes and motivations, which I thought was done very well. The discussions about how people find meaning in life, and the importance of dreams, (while they may seem silly and exaggerated, I found that close inspection of them yielded positive results) were done very well. My personal two cents shows something rather odd about the show. There is a very strong theme of 'right versus wrong' that goes throughout the show, but is always vaguely done. I point this out, because ( in my opinion) the two characters with the most obscure sense of 'right and wrong' are of course Van and the Claw Man. In the end, what I felt was everyone is just trying to live their lives the way they see best, without it being the black and white of ' I live selflessly or I live selfishly '. In the end, its just the power and sorrow of a man whos had everything taken from him, doing what his ( perhaps slightly warped) heart tells him to do. Van is a very 'human' character that way, and is not simply mad. He suffers a lot throughout the show. I also love the fact that Van's feelings are never just strung out, they have a character ( Ray ) specifically for that. The ending, was slightly dissapointing, I wouldve liked to see Michael and Fasalina continue living ( well.. just for Fasalina ), as well as what happens to the other characters. Still, a good watch overall - I am thoroughly satisfied |
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Also why does everyone keep saying Joshua and Yukiko hooked up?? where is the sign of that? Yukiko just helped cover for Joshua while he looked for the main cable and is going to help in bringing Volkein and Ray to Meuniere and maybe help in repairing. I do agree with people saying the death of Michael and Fasalina was ambiguous as they can just as easily be alive or dead (i mean if they can do crazy sht like pilot a mecha with a stripper pole they can evade a rock right...) Quote:
b.) He is not one of the first people to scout the planet. The anime just says he went there to "escape" from Mother. Endless Illusion was just another planet like Mother so he didnt live THAT long and is not THAT old. |
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2009-12-07, 13:05 | Link #75 | |
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b) Illusion was a prison planet. They don't explain how but the old 'Wardens' had all died and the robots needed new masters. Each master was granted immortality. So it is implied that Claw Man was linked with the big ship behind the moon.
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2009-12-07, 16:40 | Link #76 |
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I am glad someone is discussing Gun X Sword and here is my view of this anime.
Someone said this is an anime about right and wrong and I completely disagree. To me, This anime is about revenge. Even at the end of the series we don't know why the claw man killed Van's girlfriend and what the claw man trying to acheive (is he working for a greater good or for his personal gain?) I believed the director purposely left that out. It is easy for the director to add a couple scene to show the claw man is truly evil if he wants to make it a "right and wrong show" but the director chose not to. My opinion, is that whether the claw man is good or evil is not important at all. The important point is the claw man killed Van's gf and Van is out for revenge. I don't think Van will give up his revenge even if he knows the claw man is "good" (thus making his gf evil) because to Van, his gf is the most important person in the world. There are two scenario in Gun X Sword: The claw man is evil and he fools everyone who works for him (those who works for him looks like genuinely good people). Van's gf find out his evil plan and the claw man kill her. The claw man is actually good and Van's gf is actually evil. The claw man discover her evil deed and decide to kill her himself. For someone as smart as the claw man he can totally kill get someone else to kill her and do not get his hand dirty. The claw man choose to kill her himself because he has a sense of honor in him. Both scenarios are deeply flawed as the anime never truly explained what happen. However, it doesn't matter which scenario is closer to the "truth", as Van will execute his revenge none the less. |
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If the claw man succeed, the claw man will also "die" (as of loss his human body/form) and yet he will "live" in the heart of everyone, and we still don't know the exact mechanics of how the claw man will make people believe he is god (since he failed). I don't think the show said that he uses virus or machines to achieve his objectives (I don't think anyone will support a person if you know he is going to plant some sort of bug in your body) Jesus Christ sacrificed himself (he had plenty of chances to escape, but he choose to stay and be crucified) and his sacrifice leave a mark to humanity for 2000 years. His blood "washed the sins for all humans". Of course that is not "physical" (Jesus Christ did not do a blood transfusion for everyone) but in a spirtual sense. Can you say for a certainty that the claw man is not doing the same thing? I use Jesus Chirst in the argument because it is the first thing that comes into my mind but please, do not turn this into a religious argument. I am not a christian so I might be wrong in some of my Jesus Christ argument. However, my view is what a regular person would think of Jesus Christ. |
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2009-12-07, 20:12 | Link #79 |
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Well that's because you aren't that you have that view.
the Claw Man does not believe in Free Will. That's the major difference. EVERYONE will become a worshipper of the claw man. Whether they want to or not. The example you are using is based on the fact that the Catholics used the Crusades to force people to change by the sword. Well they don't do that anymore (or did it for very long). That's why it's plain wrong. Free Will is important part of the western world and why it allows many different faiths to exist and 'hopefully' not kill each other off. Allowing a small group of people to convert everyone else with no other choice is wrong.
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