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Palsa-San · 2013-07-04, 23:23

I was rather surprised at how much they covered in the first episode, it's practically the entire volumes 1-7 of the manga, and technically the first season of the anime rolled into one episode, minus the filler sequences of course.
Based on how this episode was structured, the series should slow down from here on.
As for comparison between the old and the new, they both have their strong points, so I can't say that one is superior to the other, at least as of now.
But I definitely enjoyed it.

FlareKnight · 2013-07-04, 23:29

I will say they had the pedal down for this episode

. Makes sense since they want to get people up to speed more or less without having to spend several episodes getting there. It was going to feel a bit crazy of course just covering all of that so I can't say how much new people will be able to make sense of it.

But will say Suigintou looked awesome

. The wings just look too damn cool.

Man life as Hina sucked hard. Left alone a lot and then boom...got body-jacked.

Since it will slow down going forward I'm fine with it. They had to choose some kind of approach. And in an age where you can't get a lot of episodes easily I'm not surprised they didn't just restart the whole thing and go slowly from there.

Regardless they are back and I'm more than happy about that

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QueenNori · 2013-07-04, 23:33

Kirakishou's voice creeps me the fuck out. Good.

MeoTwister5 · 2013-07-05, 00:23

Good god that went fast and wild. It'll make sense for most who have seen the animated series before but I doubt it'll make a whole lot a of sense for everybody else. Heck I can't even remember half of what I was watching.

And the ironic thing is that this time, I find Suiseiseki more bearable than Hina. It was the other way around in season 1 and Traumend.

Kaihan · 2013-07-05, 00:23

They finally back! Even though that recap was quite messy.

Chiaki_chan · 2013-07-05, 00:29

the recap is for There are people who, although have already seen the first season we forget some thing is just to remind us of the event

Kismet-chan · 2013-07-05, 00:31

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Originally Posted by MeoTwister5

And the ironic thing is that this time, I find Suiseiseki more bearable than Hina. It was the other way around in season 1 and Traumend.

^This. Although Hina's design is ridiculously adorable in this version, I just wanted her to shut up for a majority of her lines in this episode. -_-;

Ichuki · 2013-07-05, 00:56

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Originally Posted by Kismet-chan

^This. Although Hina's design is ridiculously adorable in this version, I just wanted her to shut up for a majority of her lines in this episode. -_-;

I have to agree with this even though I still like Hina.

mac_pack · 2013-07-05, 00:57

Well that re-cap was all kinds of fucked up, but it doesn't matter. After 7 years, 7 long years, my queen hath returned!

Spoiler for All hail the regal glory that is Suiseiseki:

DESU, motherfuckers

MeoTwister5 · 2013-07-05, 01:11

Desu indeed sir.

jedinat · 2013-07-05, 02:12

It's been years and years since I saw the original anime... didn't realize this was supposed to be a recap until I came to this thread. I'll still complain: This episode was crap, an absolute mess of a plot dump... Going in I was thinking it was going to be a reboot, which I thought might be nice. I wasn't a huge fan of the original show and thought maybe they could do better this time around. Oh well. I probably won't bother with this season.

serenade_beta · 2013-07-05, 02:23

That was absolutely horrible. I assume they recapped the previous seasons or something of that sort, but everything went by SOSOSO fast, even I started getting lost. But well, I'm glad this anime kind of spoke directly to the audience:
"If you never watched this anime before/kept up with the manga, don't even think about starting now"
Kind of like with the recent Hayate, but damn, that sure makes it easy to decide on whether to continue watching or not.

But the animation itself was fluid and AliPro did the OP as usual. Not that I could enjoy the animation when this... thing (@episode content) was making me (￣д￣)ｴｰ
Oh, and I'm sure it has already been said, but why animate this old series now?

Kismet-chan · 2013-07-05, 02:37

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Originally Posted by serenade_beta

Oh, and I'm sure it has already been said, but why animate this old series now?

The same question could be asked for a lot of other anime that get reboots/re-imaginings/late continuations. The recent Evangelion movies are a good example. "Why do this now?" Everyone has different reasons (the most common ones probably being funding and interest levels). For RM, perhaps someone really wanted to see this done, but couldn't get the legal and/or financial issues worked out until recently? Who knows.

Bern-san · 2013-07-05, 03:09

I know this has been said, but they didn't recap the previous 2 seasons, they made a super condensed version of the 8 volumes of the first manga series. Forget everything about Traumend.

Loved the OP, like the new designs and looking forward to the start of the second manga series next episode.

NoemiChan · 2013-07-05, 03:14

It's my first time seeing the series and my head hurts;.... but since they're cute (and creepy) I'll bare with it....

Mubyoshi · 2013-07-05, 04:00

Hooray for the return of Rozen Maiden! And I still feel incredibly sorry for Hinaichigo, honestly didn't want to see her get "eaten" again.

StainGlass · 2013-07-05, 04:45

What an awful way to start the anime. Maybe give some proper set-up first with some decent characterization, plot points and a bit of interest, then take a step back and recap the previous events? If this was the first time I was introduced to the series, I would not be back!

I've read the manga but even I was getting thrown off, brain does not compute that fast.

As for the animation, it was ok. I still prefer the stronger style of the Nomad anime, but I was pleasantly surprised the detail of these drawings held together for the most part, except for Suiseiseki? Why do her drawings and dress in particular look so formless?

One thing I'm disappointed with so far (the train-wreck recap storytelling aside) was the music. I wasn't expecting it to be that different, and nothing made much of an impact on me.

Going to put the series on hold for a few weeks so I can get through some proper story in bulk. Found the beginning of the Tales manga a bit dull to be honest.

-Sho- · 2013-07-05, 04:49

Well that was very messy , definitely this is for manga readers.
New people should watch 1st season & more in the manga until the current event.
You can also watch season 2 for the lulz.

Wandering_Youth · 2013-07-05, 04:50

Wow, they like jammed like the whole first season of Rozen of Maiden and more into that one episode. Not good!

It was just hard to watch or know what the hell was going, luckily I already watch the first and kind of knew what was going on, but for new comers they probably where like wtf is going on here.

Oh man is Shinbo animated this?! I'm not a big fan of his way of animating anime.

Horse · 2013-07-05, 05:10

I read the manga regularly and (?unfortunately?) like the first anime series. This episode was a very cheap way to get to the 2nd manga series. The writing and direction lack confidence or style. Kirakishou's introduction should've probably been the biggest part of this episode and yet I went just "meh" on her scene. It had absolutely no impact, just like the other dolls' rushed entrances/exits.

Yes, I realize this is "just" a recap for the first manga (I am probably bitter about them ignoring the first anime series) and the next episode will be the real test but this was just teh snore.

The photoshopped background photos annoyed the shit out of me as well. And those single comedy panels... UGH.

The most surprising thing though, as stated above, was the understated music. To be honest they shouldn't have gotten ALI PROJECT, myu or Shinkichi back for this one because it is obviously not the same show anymore.

Ep1: Blargh as expected.

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2013-07-04, 23:23	Link #21
Palsa-San General of Aurda Graphic Designer Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Winston-Salem, North Carolina, U.S.	I was rather surprised at how much they covered in the first episode, it's practically the entire volumes 1-7 of the manga, and technically the first season of the anime rolled into one episode, minus the filler sequences of course. Based on how this episode was structured, the series should slow down from here on. As for comparison between the old and the new, they both have their strong points, so I can't say that one is superior to the other, at least as of now. But I definitely enjoyed it. __________________

2013-07-04, 23:29	Link #22
FlareKnight User of the "Fast Draw" Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada	I will say they had the pedal down for this episode . Makes sense since they want to get people up to speed more or less without having to spend several episodes getting there. It was going to feel a bit crazy of course just covering all of that so I can't say how much new people will be able to make sense of it. But will say Suigintou looked awesome . The wings just look too damn cool. Man life as Hina sucked hard. Left alone a lot and then boom...got body-jacked. Since it will slow down going forward I'm fine with it. They had to choose some kind of approach. And in an age where you can't get a lot of episodes easily I'm not surprised they didn't just restart the whole thing and go slowly from there. Regardless they are back and I'm more than happy about that . __________________ Anime-Evo

2013-07-05, 00:23	Link #24
MeoTwister5 Komrades of Kitamura Kou Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 39	Good god that went fast and wild. It'll make sense for most who have seen the animated series before but I doubt it'll make a whole lot a of sense for everybody else. Heck I can't even remember half of what I was watching. And the ironic thing is that this time, I find Suiseiseki more bearable than Hina. It was the other way around in season 1 and Traumend. __________________ Medical Student vs. Anime Last Exile - Fam the Silver Wing -

2013-07-05, 00:29	Link #26
Chiaki_chan Kubo GO TO HELL Join Date: May 2012 Location: with Maki-sama Age: 31	the recap is for There are people who, although have already seen the first season we forget some thing is just to remind us of the event __________________

2013-07-04, 23:33	Link #23
QueenNori Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Germany	Kirakishou's voice creeps me the fuck out. Good.

2013-07-05, 00:57	Link #29
mac_pack Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: On top of Mount Slecka in the valley of Raccon Don O. Age: 38	Well that re-cap was all kinds of fucked up, but it doesn't matter. After 7 years, 7 long years, my queen hath returned! Spoiler for All hail the regal glory that is Suiseiseki: DESU, motherfuckers

2013-07-05, 01:11	Link #30
MeoTwister5 Komrades of Kitamura Kou Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 39	Desu indeed sir. __________________ Medical Student vs. Anime Last Exile - Fam the Silver Wing -

2013-07-05, 02:12	Link #31
jedinat Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 38	It's been years and years since I saw the original anime... didn't realize this was supposed to be a recap until I came to this thread. I'll still complain: This episode was crap, an absolute mess of a plot dump... Going in I was thinking it was going to be a reboot, which I thought might be nice. I wasn't a huge fan of the original show and thought maybe they could do better this time around. Oh well. I probably won't bother with this season.

2013-07-05, 02:23	Link #32
serenade_beta そのおっぱいで13才 Join Date: Dec 2006	That was absolutely horrible. I assume they recapped the previous seasons or something of that sort, but everything went by SOSOSO fast, even I started getting lost. But well, I'm glad this anime kind of spoke directly to the audience: "If you never watched this anime before/kept up with the manga, don't even think about starting now" Kind of like with the recent Hayate, but damn, that sure makes it easy to decide on whether to continue watching or not. But the animation itself was fluid and AliPro did the OP as usual. Not that I could enjoy the animation when this... thing (@episode content) was making me (￣д￣)ｴｰ Oh, and I'm sure it has already been said, but why animate this old series now? __________________ -Blog --> http://tdnshumi.blogspot.com/ (Mainly about video games) -R.I.P. Hiroshi Yamauchi, Gaming wouldn't have been the same without you (9/19/13)

2013-07-05, 03:09	Link #34
Bern-san Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009	I know this has been said, but they didn't recap the previous 2 seasons, they made a super condensed version of the 8 volumes of the first manga series. Forget everything about Traumend. Loved the OP, like the new designs and looking forward to the start of the second manga series next episode. __________________

2013-07-05, 03:14	Link #35
NoemiChan Banned Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Philippines Age: 36	It's my first time seeing the series and my head hurts;.... but since they're cute (and creepy) I'll bare with it....

2013-07-05, 04:00	Link #36
Mubyoshi Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012	Hooray for the return of Rozen Maiden! And I still feel incredibly sorry for Hinaichigo, honestly didn't want to see her get "eaten" again.

2013-07-05, 04:45	Link #37
StainGlass Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Age: 37	What an awful way to start the anime. Maybe give some proper set-up first with some decent characterization, plot points and a bit of interest, then take a step back and recap the previous events? If this was the first time I was introduced to the series, I would not be back! I've read the manga but even I was getting thrown off, brain does not compute that fast. As for the animation, it was ok. I still prefer the stronger style of the Nomad anime, but I was pleasantly surprised the detail of these drawings held together for the most part, except for Suiseiseki? Why do her drawings and dress in particular look so formless? One thing I'm disappointed with so far (the train-wreck recap storytelling aside) was the music. I wasn't expecting it to be that different, and nothing made much of an impact on me. Going to put the series on hold for a few weeks so I can get through some proper story in bulk. Found the beginning of the Tales manga a bit dull to be honest.

2013-07-05, 04:49	Link #38
-Sho- ~Omedetô~ Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Somewhere between heaven and hell !	Well that was very messy , definitely this is for manga readers. New people should watch 1st season & more in the manga until the current event. You can also watch season 2 for the lulz.

2013-07-05, 04:50	Link #39
Wandering_Youth lost in wonder forever... Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: edge of my dream in the land of twilight...ZzzZzZ	Wow, they like jammed like the whole first season of Rozen of Maiden and more into that one episode. Not good! It was just hard to watch or know what the hell was going, luckily I already watch the first and kind of knew what was going on, but for new comers they probably where like wtf is going on here. Oh man is Shinbo animated this?! I'm not a big fan of his way of animating anime. __________________

2013-07-05, 05:10	Link #40
Horse Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009	I read the manga regularly and (?unfortunately?) like the first anime series. This episode was a very cheap way to get to the 2nd manga series. The writing and direction lack confidence or style. Kirakishou's introduction should've probably been the biggest part of this episode and yet I went just "meh" on her scene. It had absolutely no impact, just like the other dolls' rushed entrances/exits. Yes, I realize this is "just" a recap for the first manga (I am probably bitter about them ignoring the first anime series) and the next episode will be the real test but this was just teh snore. The photoshopped background photos annoyed the shit out of me as well. And those single comedy panels... UGH. The most surprising thing though, as stated above, was the understated music. To be honest they shouldn't have gotten ALI PROJECT, myu or Shinkichi back for this one because it is obviously not the same show anymore. Ep1: Blargh as expected.