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2012-07-26, 13:54 | Link #4 |
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Its very sensitive for him when he is used to thrusters power from USA, and he has only a number of days on the japanesse simulator at best, its just a different software for him. Yui's thing is another matter she pisses him off, and he won't admit that to her.
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2012-07-26, 14:34 | Link #5 |
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Yui pisses me off as well... XD, the betas should have done a quick job with her. I can understand the fellow. He does not seems to be an idiot, but he lose his composture when a "jap" subjects appears. So I hope he manages and fix his isues to be on top of piloting soon...
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2012-07-26, 15:07 | Link #6 |
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Which Yuuya knew would require him getting used to the machine. Yet he doesn't even bother and continues to try and pilot it like an American TSF despite even his best friend telling him that he's doing it wrong and he should start actually trying to pilot it the way it was meant to be piloted.
That doesn't change that Yuuya messed up and Yui isn't an idiot and knows it was pilot error and not the machine that caused the disaster at the simulation which was far worse than even a novice could have done since Yuuya ended up getting surrounded within seconds and broke formation. However when she tries to give him advice he calls the machine apiece of shit and is adamant that he did everything right and doesn't want nor need her advice which makes him come off as a complete asshole to his superior officer. Yui is just doing her job, Yuuya needs to start doing his. |
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Yuuya is an American. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americans "Americans, or American people, are the citizens of the United States of America. The country is home to people of different national origins. As a result, Americans do not equate their nationality with ethnicity, but with citizenship" On Yuuya/Yui subject, Yuuyu *scanned* Yui's body from bottom to top during EP3's inital meeting. Last edited by encia; 2012-07-26 at 21:05. |
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I think in America especially the question is complicated. It's very multicultural but it still has that image of what an "real" American looks like. If your white you can generally get away with claiming to be just an America but most others can never do that. They'd have to attract another moniker in order to distinguish themselves. Someone like Yui heritage is almost certainly an important part of how she perceives the person and why she mostly likely emphasizes his. Yuuya, on the other hand, denies his heritage as defining who he is. I think that's an interesting dynamic. Many people do look to their families past in order to understand "themselves" better. Some feel that all that matters is the culture that they were brought out with. Others find it more of a choice of which culture they choose to identify themselves with and which not to. We can even say that many here have probably chosen in someway to identify with the Japanese culture even if they have neither a link based on heritage or being raised in. I don't know if there is one answer to it and many with probably have different views on what makes an American an American or a Japanese a Japanese. I think to agree more with Yuuya as I understand his perspective fairly intimately. I just think he takes it a bit too far and interferes with ability to act rationally at times.
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2012-07-26, 22:31 | Link #9 | |
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"I think to agree more with Yuuya as I understand his perspective fairly intimately. I just think he takes it a bit too far and interferes with ability to act rationally at times." Pretty much. One thing is that we have been viewing things from Yuuya's perspective. We don't fully see things in Yui's perspective and we did not even really get Yui's internal dialogue unlike Yuuya's.
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Yuuya's criticism with Fubuki's engine issues are valid. "Defective and junk" statement is just a sting against Yui. Quote:
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Yuuya's criticism mirrors the real life Mitsubishi A6M Zero. Fubuki would perform well with uprated engines e.g. able to support both US + Japanese style TSF combat i.e. Japanese style close range combat with US style speed i.e. closer to Gundam (GN-drive) or Macross's VF series (Macross Plus and above). Last edited by encia; 2012-07-26 at 23:57. |
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The US (via Lockweed Mardin**) can develop it's own cutting edge TSF without Japan's help. **Muv-Luv's Lockheed Martin. Quote:
American's speed would also benefit melee combat i.e. greater speed has greater KE e.g. closer to Gundam 00 (high-speed melee bias Gundam with two GN-drives) or GNX-U02X Masurao (high-speed melee combat GNX with two GN-T drives). By the way, the USN won the Pacific War. Quote:
The combined US+Japan combat style would also match Yuuya's mix-heritage. Yuuya's and Yui's personal interactions are just added noise/spice. Last edited by encia; 2012-07-27 at 01:23. |
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Yes, thanks for the history lesson. I assume the statement is meant to imply because the USN defeated the Japanese Navy that their tactics and weaponry were in every way superior and could learn nothing from the Japanese tactics or weaponry. No other reasoning came into your equation like raw material availability, different sizes of population and industry, or anything else. Quote:
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2012-07-27, 01:40 | Link #14 |
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@encia: The XFJ Plan (don't conflate the XFJ plan with Project PROMINENCE as a whole) was started because they wanted access to American technical expertise and technology by partnering with an American company, not because they wanted to throw out their entire design philosophy. For example even though they're upgrading the engines and integrating lessons learned from the Active Eagle, they're still keeping the whole supplementary mechanical aerodynamic control surfaces thing that Yuuya was having issues figuring out how to use, and which is also used on other non-Japanese TSFs like the Typhoon.
Therefore Yuuya's criticisms were valid within the constraints of what he's been trained to do in that the machine couldn't do what he wanted it to do, since it was designed for something else, but on the other hand he was also failing to understand that which it was designed for, which it would pull off adequately if he had understood what to do. Perhaps through the XFJ Plan Japan could make a TSF that, with greater thruster power, could pull what Yuuya wanted to do, but that had nothing to do with whether or not the Fubuki is a piece of defective junk, since he's trying to evaluate it entirely based on its capacity to do one thing instead of trying to explore the other options that allow it to maneuver just fine. But this is getting away from the topic of Yuuya Bridges himself, I think. Bottom line, his attitude sucked, such that even though what he said had factual basis, he was missing the bigger picture. |
2012-07-27, 01:46 | Link #15 |
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Rick, are you sure you watched the episode? Because when he's away from Yui, Yuuya does recognise that he's just as resppnsible to fly the Fubuki right, and is honest enough to admit that he shares part of the blame and needs to get better, pronto.
At the same time, he's only had a few days at most with the Fubuki, versus his significantly higher stick time in the Eagle and Raptor. He's still instinctively flying like an American pilot. Note that he does recognise that despite the underpowered engines and oversensitivity, the Fubuki is working exactly as intended. And that he intends to master it. Sadly, he can't keep himself from acting like an ass when Yui is around.
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The team is working on XFJ project with Boening and the Japanese stakeholders under the Project PROMINENCE umbrella. Quote:
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The control surfaces may not be the issue since it depends on how the control OS handles the control surfaces i.e. the level of automation. Quote:
Are you trying to be like Yuuya for Ms Sweden? Last edited by encia; 2012-07-27 at 02:35. |
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Also note his comments prior to the anti-BETA exercise, where he makes the determination to master the Fubuki. He's trying, but he's got a few years of muscle memory and habits he needs to unlearn, which takes time. That said I agree he has an attitude problem, and Yui was right to call him out on it. She didn't have to resort to race baiting, however.
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