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ZeroXSEED · 2012-03-29, 09:33

Either human extinction, Earth turned out to be all female, or male REALLY put into slavery.

Tempest35 · 2012-03-29, 09:34

...sounds like it would achieve putting men as official 2nd class citizens of every nation on the planet since we're obviously that stupid...

Eratas123 · 2012-03-29, 09:37

.....That just screws everybody over

Contrary to popular belief, it's not the Stork that delivers babies. No matter what, 9/10 guys would not want to start getting into relationships after a flat out genocide:/

ZeroXSEED · 2012-03-29, 09:39

Which translates to rape/breeding program/ homosexual reproduction/ etc.

GYAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tempest35 · 2012-03-29, 09:41

Children would be regulated of course... absolute worst-case would have men being raised as nothing more than breed stock. We wouldn't probably even get to enjoy it - genes would be spliced, rearranged and whatnot to give the female the best compatible baby for her type...

...okay maybe not THAT bad but hey, it could happen.

*stares at Zero* .... that's two-for-two now...

Eratas123 · 2012-03-29, 09:41

Well, bad future's somewhat like this. Only difference is most guys are officially 2nd class ever since PT all but took over.

Side note - How would raping work? They'd probably just kill themselves and you can't have sex with someone who's panicking and not turned on.

Tempest35 · 2012-03-29, 09:43

Guys are mostly hot-wired, you'd need the dense-ness of Ichika, Natsuru, and others to not get it up... Depends on the guy, really.

HasuMasu · 2012-03-29, 09:44

No need for rape, what about Binary Fission and Parthenogenesis?

Eratas123 · 2012-03-29, 09:45

Wouldn't that lead to eventual cellular degradation in the long run?

ZeroXSEED · 2012-03-29, 09:45

You certainly haven't read Ooku - Inner Chamber.

There's a trope for that, "It's not Rape if You enjoy it". When Deconstructed, that's when your body betray your heart and sane mind. It's kind of defense mechanism to minimize mental damage...

As for Parthenogenesis, that's like combining two eggs into one, so nope, no degradation, but all you have is female babies, no male in sight.

Eratas123 · 2012-03-29, 09:48

Then wouldn't cloning be better? You can even manipulate the genes this way.

ZeroXSEED · 2012-03-29, 09:49

Cloning is worse in that you only have one genetic source with shortened telomere, rapid aging and short lifespan ahoy.

Eratas123 · 2012-03-29, 09:52

Aren't those problems easily remedied with the tech the IS world has?

ZeroXSEED · 2012-03-29, 09:55

I'm not sure about that, this always been the main problem of cloning in virtually any Sci Fi Show, not even in a show where genetic manipulation is easily achieved like Gundam SEED.

Vandread might be an exception.

Eratas123 · 2012-03-29, 09:57

So an opposite sex clone is impossible in real life?

ZeroXSEED · 2012-03-29, 09:59

By theory yes.

Eratas123 · 2012-03-29, 10:04

Damn, I was gonna make one of Ichika. It would be a way to bypass the core recognition of him.

ZeroXSEED · 2012-03-29, 10:17

Nah, I'm sure there is another way to bypass it, like specific cell or specific genes.

Or making Ichika a sterile, XX male...

Eratas123 · 2012-03-29, 10:20

How would makin him sterile bypass the core recognition system?

ZeroXSEED · 2012-03-29, 10:25

No, I mean he still appear male, but genetic wise he's a female, but since he has male body and double X chromosome, it's impossible for him to have a kid in normal way (since he can't produce sperm)
Because that's what happened in Charles case in Sacred Twins...

2012-03-29, 09:33	Link #27641
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Either human extinction, Earth turned out to be all female, or male REALLY put into slavery. __________________

2012-03-29, 09:34	Link #27642
Tempest35 Awe of She Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Orlando	...sounds like it would achieve putting men as official 2nd class citizens of every nation on the planet since we're obviously that stupid... __________________ "Focus entirely on me, you ordinary soldier."

2012-03-29, 09:37	Link #27643
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	.....That just screws everybody over Contrary to popular belief, it's not the Stork that delivers babies. No matter what, 9/10 guys would not want to start getting into relationships after a flat out genocide:/ __________________

2012-03-29, 09:39	Link #27644
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Which translates to rape/breeding program/ homosexual reproduction/ etc. GYAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________

2012-03-29, 09:41	Link #27645
Tempest35 Awe of She Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Orlando	Children would be regulated of course... absolute worst-case would have men being raised as nothing more than breed stock. We wouldn't probably even get to enjoy it - genes would be spliced, rearranged and whatnot to give the female the best compatible baby for her type... ...okay maybe not THAT bad but hey, it could happen. stares at Zero .... that's two-for-two now... __________________ "Focus entirely on me, you ordinary soldier."

2012-03-29, 09:41	Link #27646
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Well, bad future's somewhat like this. Only difference is most guys are officially 2nd class ever since PT all but took over. Side note - How would raping work? They'd probably just kill themselves and you can't have sex with someone who's panicking and not turned on. __________________

2012-03-29, 09:43	Link #27647
Tempest35 Awe of She Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Orlando	Guys are mostly hot-wired, you'd need the dense-ness of Ichika, Natsuru, and others to not get it up... Depends on the guy, really. __________________ "Focus entirely on me, you ordinary soldier."

2012-03-29, 09:44	Link #27648
HasuMasu Senior Member Artist Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: The Middle Way	No need for rape, what about Binary Fission and Parthenogenesis? __________________

2012-03-29, 09:45	Link #27649
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Wouldn't that lead to eventual cellular degradation in the long run? __________________

2012-03-29, 09:45	Link #27650
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	You certainly haven't read Ooku - Inner Chamber. There's a trope for that, "It's not Rape if You enjoy it". When Deconstructed, that's when your body betray your heart and sane mind. It's kind of defense mechanism to minimize mental damage... As for Parthenogenesis, that's like combining two eggs into one, so nope, no degradation, but all you have is female babies, no male in sight. __________________

2012-03-29, 09:48	Link #27651
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Then wouldn't cloning be better? You can even manipulate the genes this way. __________________

2012-03-29, 09:49	Link #27652
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Cloning is worse in that you only have one genetic source with shortened telomere, rapid aging and short lifespan ahoy. __________________

2012-03-29, 09:52	Link #27653
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Aren't those problems easily remedied with the tech the IS world has? __________________

2012-03-29, 09:55	Link #27654
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	I'm not sure about that, this always been the main problem of cloning in virtually any Sci Fi Show, not even in a show where genetic manipulation is easily achieved like Gundam SEED. Vandread might be an exception. __________________

2012-03-29, 09:57	Link #27655
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	So an opposite sex clone is impossible in real life? __________________

2012-03-29, 09:59	Link #27656
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	By theory yes. __________________

2012-03-29, 10:04	Link #27657
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Damn, I was gonna make one of Ichika. It would be a way to bypass the core recognition of him. __________________

2012-03-29, 10:17	Link #27658
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Nah, I'm sure there is another way to bypass it, like specific cell or specific genes. Or making Ichika a sterile, XX male... __________________

2012-03-29, 10:20	Link #27659
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	How would makin him sterile bypass the core recognition system? __________________

2012-03-29, 10:25	Link #27660
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	No, I mean he still appear male, but genetic wise he's a female, but since he has male body and double X chromosome, it's impossible for him to have a kid in normal way (since he can't produce sperm) Because that's what happened in Charles case in Sacred Twins... __________________