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macdawson · 2013-06-10, 05:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myssa Rei

Well it's certainly less sparse than Greenmantle started it with, that's for sure. However, it definitely needs someone who's much more savvier with the franchise than I am (or better, access to the series wikis, as those are blocked by my office's firewalls etc.).

Chrismas Cake and Fridge Logic had me LMAO!!! XD

Myssa Rei · 2013-06-10, 06:20

Christmas Cake was there before I even started on it. Take note, this was VERY bare-bones when I started this morning.

Also, someone who's watched most of the Yamato franchise seriously needs to pitch in. I haven't, so I'm pretty much groping in the dark.

Ithekro · 2013-06-10, 12:05

I may be series knowledgeable. but I'm not trope knowledgeable.

Myssa Rei · 2013-06-10, 18:31

Leave the trope-trawling to me. Got a lot of free time at the office right now, as apparently I can't even log in to the remote server today.

Anyway, let's start with the obvious: franchise mythology gags obvious to old hands, but would likely fly over the head of everyone else. Ithekro already mentioned that there's a whole gamut of characters in 2199 that only joined the cast in subsequent seasons, or were only present in the movies, and I remember someone saying that the "sinking" sequence during the Battle of Pluto was a nod to how the Yamato finally met its end in the third season. Stuff like that.

macdawson · 2013-06-10, 19:23

The sinking at Pluto is more than a nod to Final Yamato. The way yhe ship sinks, the rising plume of water and even the sound used are near carbon copies of that movie scene.

Ithekro · 2013-06-11, 18:04

The problem could be that some of use have had this in their lives for pretty much their entire life, and just don't see what would be a homage from something normal anymore.

Or we see things that aren't there because we start reaching for connections. I see things that might be references or hints of other things, but I can't be sure they really are or not because of two things: I don't understand Japanese, and I don't know how this will end.

Understanding Japanese would help for things like interviews or reading the more intricate parts of the Japanese Wikipedia entries on Yamato 2199 (outside what a translation program can handle). Because if there are homages that I missed, I'm certain the older Japanese fans caught them and pointed them out.

The other problem of not knowing how it will end means that there are some homages that I can't tell if they are homagles yet or not. The plotlines that might connect the dots aren't there yet. I suspect somethings to be there, but it hasn't happened yet, so I don't know if it will happen. The largest ones being centered around the character of Mamoru Kodai. There are a bunch of things they might have done, and I suspect so many things, just I can't be sure if I'm right ot if I'm grasping at false signals.

August138 · 2013-06-14, 14:38

I updated my blog with some musings on CHAPTER 6 with details on the contents of the Blu-ray, and other odds and ends. And then, there's this:

SPACE BATTLESHIP YAMATO: 2199 CHAPTER 7 "AND THE SHIP SAILED ON": Here is the herald for the final film opening in select Japanese cinemas on August 24th. The curious title is an allusion to Federico Fellini's E LA NAVE VA (And the Ship Sailed On, 1983), which depicts the events on board a luxury liner filled with a group of friends who have gathered to mourn a deceased opera singer.

Factoid: Interestingly, the Japanese translation of Fellini's title is「そして船は行く」(Soshite Fune-wa Yuku) while the Y2199 film substitutes「船」(fune) or "Ship" with「艦」(kan) from「戦艦」(senkan) or "Battleship" — which still can be read as "ship" in a nice play on words.

calubin_175 · 2013-06-14, 19:35

The way Starsha is drawn on this poster definitely makes her the only character to resemble Leiji Matsumoto's style. It is still possible that Sasha is Starsha's twin sister in this continuity, but Yurisha is definitely younger.

August138 · 2013-06-15, 00:37

Sasha and Starsha were never twins. In this continuity they are eldest, middle, and younger sisters.

macdawson · 2013-06-15, 04:50

First report on Chapter 6 with some awesome images.

http://newslounge.net/archives/82840

Myssa Rei · 2013-06-15, 06:10

Wait, what, it looks like General Dietz is the one who's gone to the UN side for negotiations. Also, isn't that Domel's wife?

It bears asking, has Dessler ALWAYS been this big a Starsha fanboy even in the original?

macdawson · 2013-06-15, 07:15

Yes to both those questions. Though in the original, his passion for Starsha was a bit more subdued.

bumbayker · 2013-06-15, 10:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by macdawson

First report on Chapter 6 with some awesome images.

http://newslounge.net/archives/82840

Mmm... Starsha and Yurisha. What I'd give to be on Iscandar.

So sad that Sasha died at the start of the show though (and I liked her new outfit). I wonder who's the lucky bastard on the Yamato who'll end up with Yurisha.

BTW was it ever mentioned or shown in the original series if there were any male Iscandarians?

Beltane70 · 2013-06-15, 11:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by bumbayker

Mmm... Starsha and Yurisha. What I'd give to be on Iscandar.

So sad that Sasha died at the start of the show though (and I liked her new outfit). I wonder who's the lucky bastard on the Yamato who'll end up with Yurisha.

BTW was it ever mentioned or shown in the original series if there were any male Iscandarians?

No, it never was. Starsha and her sister are the only Iscandarians we ever see in the original.

Ithekro · 2013-06-15, 11:24

It seems inane to spoiler these but it has been requested.

Spoiler for Inane spoilers of the unknown knowledge:

enrico7113 · 2013-06-15, 12:21

this remake adds so much depth to the story and characters that you need to watch again old episodes to understand some questions that were left unanswered

Ithekro · 2013-06-15, 13:14

This was in the news section of Yamato2199.net (http://yamato2199.net/index.html)

What is going on in the lower most right image?

Spoiler for Large image:

Vito · 2013-06-15, 13:28

Slightly bigger pic than the one August posted http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/minhir315...1/610a258e.jpg was googling images for the last 24h and it popped up.

bumbayker · 2013-06-15, 13:54

Well this was bound to happen sooner or later. Slapping Shingeki no Kyojin theme on anything is possible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB4VC...ature=youtu.be

August138 · 2013-06-15, 14:27

Folks, watch the SPOILERS — especially in images —just tag them appropriately, please!

Spoiler for This will ruin it for you:

How hard was that?

Seriously, I don't want to be exposed to any more spoiler images until I receive my Blu-ray this coming week — so give us a break, please —use the proper posting etiquette in this regard, guys! If I look at a spoiler that's my business, but I don't want to be unknowingly exposed, especially since there are spoiler rules in effect on this board. I'm sure that others will appreciate your respect in this regard as well. Thanks!

2013-06-10, 06:20	Link #2322
Myssa Rei Moderate Haruhiist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Metro Manila, Philippines Age: 42	Christmas Cake was there before I even started on it. Take note, this was VERY bare-bones when I started this morning. Also, someone who's watched most of the Yamato franchise seriously needs to pitch in. I haven't, so I'm pretty much groping in the dark. __________________

2013-06-10, 12:05	Link #2323
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	I may be series knowledgeable. but I'm not trope knowledgeable. __________________

2013-06-10, 18:31	Link #2324
Myssa Rei Moderate Haruhiist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Metro Manila, Philippines Age: 42	Leave the trope-trawling to me. Got a lot of free time at the office right now, as apparently I can't even log in to the remote server today. Anyway, let's start with the obvious: franchise mythology gags obvious to old hands, but would likely fly over the head of everyone else. Ithekro already mentioned that there's a whole gamut of characters in 2199 that only joined the cast in subsequent seasons, or were only present in the movies, and I remember someone saying that the "sinking" sequence during the Battle of Pluto was a nod to how the Yamato finally met its end in the third season. Stuff like that. __________________

2013-06-11, 18:04	Link #2326
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	The problem could be that some of use have had this in their lives for pretty much their entire life, and just don't see what would be a homage from something normal anymore. Or we see things that aren't there because we start reaching for connections. I see things that might be references or hints of other things, but I can't be sure they really are or not because of two things: I don't understand Japanese, and I don't know how this will end. Understanding Japanese would help for things like interviews or reading the more intricate parts of the Japanese Wikipedia entries on Yamato 2199 (outside what a translation program can handle). Because if there are homages that I missed, I'm certain the older Japanese fans caught them and pointed them out. The other problem of not knowing how it will end means that there are some homages that I can't tell if they are homagles yet or not. The plotlines that might connect the dots aren't there yet. I suspect somethings to be there, but it hasn't happened yet, so I don't know if it will happen. The largest ones being centered around the character of Mamoru Kodai. There are a bunch of things they might have done, and I suspect so many things, just I can't be sure if I'm right ot if I'm grasping at false signals. __________________

2013-06-14, 14:38	Link #2327
August138 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: San Francisco, California	I updated my blog with some musings on CHAPTER 6 with details on the contents of the Blu-ray, and other odds and ends. And then, there's this: SPACE BATTLESHIP YAMATO: 2199 CHAPTER 7 "AND THE SHIP SAILED ON": Here is the herald for the final film opening in select Japanese cinemas on August 24th. The curious title is an allusion to Federico Fellini's E LA NAVE VA (And the Ship Sailed On, 1983), which depicts the events on board a luxury liner filled with a group of friends who have gathered to mourn a deceased opera singer. Factoid: Interestingly, the Japanese translation of Fellini's title is「そして船は行く」(Soshite Fune-wa Yuku) while the Y2199 film substitutes「船」(fune) or "Ship" with「艦」(kan) from「戦艦」(senkan) or "Battleship" — which still can be read as "ship" in a nice play on words. __________________ August Ragone "The Good, The Bad, and Godzilla"

2013-06-10, 19:23	Link #2325
macdawson Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006	The sinking at Pluto is more than a nod to Final Yamato. The way yhe ship sinks, the rising plume of water and even the sound used are near carbon copies of that movie scene.

2013-06-14, 19:35	Link #2328
calubin_175 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009	The way Starsha is drawn on this poster definitely makes her the only character to resemble Leiji Matsumoto's style. It is still possible that Sasha is Starsha's twin sister in this continuity, but Yurisha is definitely younger.

2013-06-15, 00:37	Link #2329
August138 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: San Francisco, California	Sasha and Starsha were never twins. In this continuity they are eldest, middle, and younger sisters. __________________ August Ragone "The Good, The Bad, and Godzilla"

2013-06-15, 04:50	Link #2330
macdawson Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006	First report on Chapter 6 with some awesome images. http://newslounge.net/archives/82840

2013-06-15, 06:10	Link #2331
Myssa Rei Moderate Haruhiist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Metro Manila, Philippines Age: 42	Wait, what, it looks like General Dietz is the one who's gone to the UN side for negotiations. Also, isn't that Domel's wife? It bears asking, has Dessler ALWAYS been this big a Starsha fanboy even in the original? __________________

2013-06-15, 07:15	Link #2332
macdawson Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006	Yes to both those questions. Though in the original, his passion for Starsha was a bit more subdued.

2013-06-15, 11:24	Link #2335
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	It seems inane to spoiler these but it has been requested. Spoiler for Inane spoilers of the unknown knowledge: Ohhh. moving the capitol. That's brilliant. It explains something from the Bolar Wars even. The other two guys look kind of like some commanders from the second season. I could be wrong though. Inane? Because we don't know what these means unless one has already spoiled oneself in which case you would know what it means already which means it wouldn't spoil you. Right? __________________ Last edited by Ithekro; 2013-06-15 at 15:07. Reason: Inane is a fun word

2013-06-15, 12:21	Link #2336
enrico7113 Member Join Date: Aug 2012	this remake adds so much depth to the story and characters that you need to watch again old episodes to understand some questions that were left unanswered

2013-06-15, 13:14	Link #2337
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	This was in the news section of Yamato2199.net (http://yamato2199.net/index.html) What is going on in the lower most right image? Spoiler for Large image: A Dessler Cannon? __________________ Last edited by Ithekro; 2013-06-15 at 15:07.

2013-06-15, 13:28	Link #2338
Vito Asshole. Join Date: Aug 2008	Slightly bigger pic than the one August posted http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/minhir315...1/610a258e.jpg was googling images for the last 24h and it popped up.

2013-06-15, 13:54	Link #2339
bumbayker Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: In the middle of nowhere	Well this was bound to happen sooner or later. Slapping Shingeki no Kyojin theme on anything is possible. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB4VC...ature=youtu.be

2013-06-15, 14:27	Link #2340
August138 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: San Francisco, California	Folks, watch the SPOILERS — especially in images —just tag them appropriately, please! Spoiler for This will ruin it for you: Yes, this means you "Ikethekro" and "MacDawson"! How hard was that? Seriously, I don't want to be exposed to any more spoiler images until I receive my Blu-ray this coming week — so give us a break, please —use the proper posting etiquette in this regard, guys! If I look at a spoiler that's my business, but I don't want to be unknowingly exposed, especially since there are spoiler rules in effect on this board. I'm sure that others will appreciate your respect in this regard as well. Thanks! __________________ August Ragone "The Good, The Bad, and Godzilla"