Madoka Magica - General Discussion

[Snork]

so there's a chance he doesn't even understand Kyubey

there's a chance Kyuubey doesn't even quite understands hiimself/themselves.

The idea that Kyubey is a force of nature stems from the impression that nature itself is impartial and objective - nature lacks emotion.

Well, I personally don't see Kyuubey as a force of nature, my point is that he seems to be pulling off that impression. I could even go as far as to suspect that his whole lecture in ep 9 might have been about this. Yes, audience-san, this IS a villain of the show, but he's dealing with far greater goals, he does not percieve evil, he even fails to feel emotions and ACT like your traditional villain - so turning this show into an anti-Kyuubey crusade would be pointless. That's the message I have an impression of getting back there. Of course, we still have two episodes, and the script obviously doesn't waste these on beaches and onsens, so I still expect a solid pack of info.

I think that Kyubey has one last revelation to share with Madoka, given that all Kyubey does in this anime is talk.

It'll be ironic if he ends up being the one to inform Madoka of Homura's origin and goals. Which can be possible if he decides to play a shameless gambit: "So, basically, this girl is trying her best to save you, and she is determined to face Walpurgisnacht alone to protect you, but she stands no chance and will most likely meet her death in this unassisted battle... too bad, huh?" ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼

[Deconstructor]

Originally Posted by Snork

Well, I personally don't see Kyuubey as a force of nature, my point is that he seems to be pulling off that impression. I could even go as far as to suspect that his whole lecture in ep 9 might have been about this. Yes, audience-san, this IS a villain of the show, but he's dealing with far greater goals, he does not percieve evil, he even fails to feel emotions and ACT like your traditional villain - so turning this show into an anti-Kyuubey crusade would be pointless.

So by our limited human definitions, Kyubey is evil. In the scope of the universe (and nature), Kyubey is something far greater. You feel that Kyubey is a force of nature because he lacks emotions and ideas of evil.

That part sounds good and is supported by his own speech. However, I note Kyubey has intentions. I feel Kyubey to be unnatural because of the methods by which Kyubey achieves his intentions. He explains that human emotion can fix the universe's entropy, a natural occurrence. In order to harvest human emotion, Kyubey grants a wish.

If one can wish for anything, then the process by which Kyubey grants wishes seems unnatural. Kyubey can warp the minds of humans, fix severe disabilities, and even save people from dying. Kyubey notes that his race is technologically advanced enough to do this and harvest human emotion - another piece of evidence to suggest Kyubey is disrupting the natural processes of the universe. Therefore, I find Kyubey to be unnatural.

[Xacual]

I don't know if it was posted yet at least I didn't see a link in the last 5 or so pages, but Kyuube has a game now.

http://illucalab.com/incubator/incubatore.html

Contract girls and use them to fight witches and eventually they'll become witches and fight walpurgis night at the end. My high score was 46k.

[kaigan]

Originally Posted by Xacual

I don't know if it was posted yet at least I didn't see a link in the last 5 or so pages, but Kyuube has a game now.

http://illucalab.com/incubator/incubatore.html

Contract girls and use them to fight witches and eventually they'll become witches and fight walpurgis night at the end. My high score was 46k.

great game! i dont know how to read japanese floating on the screen but i manage to defeat walpurgis effectively.

tips:
assemble as many normal girls as possible within the area of your mouse pointer. click and hold. the progress bar surrounding the girls will speed up. surround weaker witches or familiars with pms. pms should not be too close to each other when fighting. when normal girls appear onscreen move them out of witches'/familiars' range by dragging. they are easily get killed. pms inactive in battle will eventually become a witch but slowly. a faster way is to drain their energy when fighting.

i don't know how to use the skills. i've reached level 9 girls but skills seemed to be blank.

when things get tough, homu-chan will save the day.

my highest score 56788

EDIT: instead of click and hold, you could click rapidly, it seems to progress faster but quite unhealthy to my index finger and the mouse button.

also defeating higher level witches and familiars up your pms, if your pms are of lower levels.

it also seems there is no time bonus. the faster i reach walpurgis night with an increasing army of pms, the lower my score is

homu-chan will always finish witches/walpurgis if you happen to reach 0 pms.

[waffo]

I need to practice. I only got 36,124. I'm not persuasive enough to contract people.

[pinoscotto]

http://www.mbs.jp/madoka-magica/
what does that mean?

[Tokugashi]

Originally Posted by waffo

I need to practice. I only got 36,124. I'm not persuasive enough to contract people.

49k ^^ I did pretty good I think.

[Dr. Casey]

Originally Posted by pinoscotto

http://www.mbs.jp/madoka-magica/
what does that mean?

In the final video it mentions the number 14... maybe they plan to air the next episode of Madoka on April 14th?

Edit: Though probably not, because now I remember it would be considered April 15th in Japan, I think.

[Antinomical]

Originally Posted by Snork

Well, I personally don't see Kyuubey as a force of nature, my point is that he seems to be pulling off that impression. I could even go as far as to suspect that his whole lecture in ep 9 might have been about this. Yes, audience-san, this IS a villain of the show, but he's dealing with far greater goals, he does not percieve evil, he even fails to feel emotions and ACT like your traditional villain - so turning this show into an anti-Kyuubey crusade would be pointless.

I think so too. I think it would be rather unfair to view Kyubey as the typical villain with clearly evil objectives. Whatever his motivation, the very act of trying to justify (for many of us, I doubt he actually succeeded) his actions redeems him from the stereotypical evil villain. Instead of merely explaining his actions Kyubey puts the question to Madoka, "If you feel like dying for the universe, we'll be waiting". Madoka's death saves the universe. Is it not that much different from a heroic sacrifice. The difference, and the reason why we hate Kyubey (I think), is that Kyubey fails to see the morality problem we all do. That there is something wrong when someone sacrifices himself/herself to save others, when he/she is not even aware of making that choice.

Kyubey's evil lies simply in that he has a different morality, one that is focused on simply achieving objectives. Even by the standards of other alien beings, Kyubey could very well be evil. But I think the point here is not if Kyubey is an evil villain, but that if Kyubey is even a villain. If the only way his species knows to stop a natural disaster from occurring is to trick Sayaka, Mami and the girls, is he wrong to do so? I think the deeper question here is, if the only way to save a 10000 people is by killing 100 other people, would you do it? Which is more wrong? To let 10000 people die, or to kill 100? Depending on how you see it, Kyubey may be a villain, or he may not.

[zeniselv]

Originally Posted by Dr. Casey

In the final video it mentions the number 14... maybe they plan to air the next episode of Madoka on April 14th?

Edit: Though probably not, because now I remember it would be considered April 15th in Japan, I think.

i think that 14 you say its the one that says madokas age.

[Coppola]

There's a spin-off of Mahou Shoujo by Shaft - Mahou Shoujo Sonico★Magica : 3DCG-interface...

They made an OP in yt, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23C3tjF14nA

[Snork]

Kyubey can warp the minds of humans, fix severe disabilities, and even save people from dying. Kyubey notes that his race is technologically advanced enough to do this and harvest human emotion - another piece of evidence to suggest Kyubey is disrupting the natural processes of the universe. Therefore, I find Kyubey to be unnatural.

It's not Kyuubey's race that do this all - they are just technologically advanced enough to operate the power that does. Such cute alien wizards, heh. The term "unnatural" remains credible, though... as we'll never know if magic itself is an anomaly for this world or an advanced set of cosmic laws overlapping the known ones (some things modern physics deal with would be considered pure magic as far back as in the 1890s).
As these comments sound like contrarguments, maybe I should clarify my point - I DON'T consider Kyuubey on par with laws of nature, I just have an impression that he seems (or... tries?) to pass for something like that. "Interesting position", indeed.

In the final video it mentions the number 14... maybe they plan to air the next episode of Madoka on April 14th?

sigh, I'd prefer it much sooner anyway.
Whatever production delays are there, I almost HOPE they're about crucial points of the episode's quality. After three weeks' wait, I'm not sure I'm dying to see all the "immediate" cosmetic improvents, even if they'd promise to crank the visual side all the way up to Kara no Kyoukai level. C'mon, Shaft, let us see the ending itself, make us clench our fists and wipe our tears again - then use all the time you'll have until autumn to cram all these cosmetic fixes into the BD release. Hell, two or three MORE weeks without Madoka and some fans (myself probably included) might be desperate enough to swallow another Bakemonogatari ep 10 case if it were to come up...

[waffo]

Originally Posted by Tokugashi

49k ^^ I did pretty good I think.

After destroying the lives of several girls, I now am able to get a 75k! There really are a lot of games people have made for this series already, huh. I have to say this Kyubey game is the most fun so far.

[NaweG]

Originally Posted by Deconstructor

That is where I find Kyubey and nature different. While nature follows the flow, Kyubey has intentions of his own. Kyubey actively seeks out the girl with the most powerful emotions, and tries to convince her with devised schemes. To say that Kyubey is a force of nature is to suggest that nature can think for itself and hold intention - as far as I know, that is untrue. Nature has yet to talk to us and ask us to stop killing it.

Those who believe in the "Strong" Gaia theory might argue that there is more to the "force" of Nature than you are giving it credit for. In that case, you could even argue that Kyubey is a more understandable representation of a willful force of nature that makes it a little easier to understand while at the same time being on another level impossible to understand.

Of course, that makes for some uncomfortable questions about why Nature would choose such an Earthquake - but it may see us as being just as disposable as Kyubey does.

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by Tokugashi

49k ^^ I did pretty good I think.

73k....this game is seriously addicting...

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by Xacual

I don't know if it was posted yet at least I didn't see a link in the last 5 or so pages, but Kyuube has a game now.

http://illucalab.com/incubator/incubatore.html

Contract girls and use them to fight witches and eventually they'll become witches and fight walpurgis night at the end. My high score was 46k.

Playing that game has helped inspire a different video game idea for me.

It's pretty lengthy and detailed, so I'm going to share it in the spoiler space below.

I'd love to know what my fellow Madoka fans think of this video game idea:

Spoiler for Kyubey: Magical Girl Creator!:

You play as Kyubey, and you start out at the central park of the suburbs of a picturesque Japanese city. Your goal is to gain a certain energy quota within six months. You get so much energy for a girl turning into a magical girl, and you get a lot of energy when a magical girl becomes a witch. You have 100 lives (you can be killed, but you get up to 99 respawns).

You are given a very detailed report by a recon operative for your race.

This report includes a profile for 100 girls between the ages of 10 and 16 within your assigned area. These 100 girls are not the only ones in the area, but they are the only ones that have enough emotional/magical potential to be worth contracting with. They will be spread out through out your area, found at one of 30 different schools. Some schools will only have 1 such girl, while others may have as many as 8 or 9. The home for each girl will also be located on your world map.

Once you've chosen a target you can choose where to approach the girl, and you can choose multiple targets at once (if they are friends with each other).


Before choosing any target, you can read through the report, and each of the profiles (the report could be opened from the main screen, and then 100 thumbnails would each provide a profile).

Each profile contains the following:

A Driver's License-esque picture of the girl in question.

The girl's name.

Important relatives of note (in most cases, the answer is "none"). A girl with important relatives of note are likely to cause problems for you if she becomes a witch, dies, or goes missing for very long. One of the 100 girls, for example, will be a close relative of "Governor Ishihara". Should she die, become a witch, or go missing for too long, the entire city will go into immediate martial law, limiting your effectiveness quite severely. In extreme cases, you might even have the Japanese military after you. It is possible for you to be killed 100 times and get "Game Over".

Important friends of note (i.e. friends that are one of the other 99 girls). A girl with important friends of note are likely to try to get her friends to contract with you as well.

Does the girl have a specific wish that we're already aware of? If so, the wish in question is listed. Girls with unknown wishes are riskier to contract with (at least 2 will give you bad "Game Over" ends if you contract with them).

Magical Potential Grade: Ranging from A+ (Madoka-level) to D (below Sayaka). The higher the magical potential, the more powerful the magical girl/witch will be, and the more energy you'll get.


Six statistical breakdowns.

Intelligence (1 to 10) - Intelligence level impacts how likely the girl is to contract with you, and also how good she will be at improvising in combat and adapting to her new magical girl body. The ideal intelligence is 7 - Not smart enough to refuse your contract offer, but smart enough to be good in combat. Girls of Intelligence 8 or above may refuse you, and you may need to be trickier in order to win them over.

Morality (1 to 10) - Morality level impacts how much the girl cares about others, and her personal sense of justice. This will impact eagerness to fight witches and familiars, as well as her ability to work with other magical girls. The ideal Morality is 7 - Not moral enough to think "Big Picture" and hence make a potentially risky wish (for you), but moral enough to want to fight witches and familiars to protect others. Girls of similar morality levels are more able to work with one another than girls of very different morality levels (a difference of 3 or more).

Emotionality (1 to 10) - Emotionality level impacts how rapidly a girl can become a witch after becoming a magical girl. The higher the emotionality the better. As with morality, girls with similar emotionality level are more able to work with one another than girls of very different emotionality levels (a difference of 3 or more).

Courage (1 to 10) - Courage level impacts a girl's willingness to put her life on the line. A girl with a very low courage level (3 or less) will avoid witches out of fear, and will only fight familiars, unless she can work with more courageous magical girls in a team. A girl with a moderate courage level (4 to 7) are willing to fight witches on her own, but will not take major risks and will not fight other magical girls. A girl with high courage level (8 to 10) will be very bold in combat, hence increasing her chance of defeating powerful witches but also increasing her chance of dying. She will also be willing to fight other magical girls.

Work Ethic (1 to 10) - Work Ethic level impacts how many fights a girl is willing to get in per day, and how long she's willing to fight. A girl with very low work ethic (3 or less) will fight the bare minimum number of witches necessary for soul gem cleansing, and will not bother with familiars, unless a lack of courage overrides this. A girl with moderate work ethic (4 to 7) will fight a witch or familiar per day. A girl with high work ethic (8 to 10) will be on Batman-esque patrols each and every evening, willing to fight multiple witches/familiars per day.

Athleticism (1 to 10) - Athleticism level impacts how good in combat the girl is. Low athleticism (3 or less) means that she's pretty awkward and is likely to miss her shots (if using long-range weaponry) and is likely to take more blows than she delivers (if a closed quarters combatant). Moderate athleticism (4 to 7) means that she'll avoid most attacks, and hit most of hers. High athleticism (8 to 10) means that she will not lose to any witch except the most powerful ones, or to most other magical girls. Girls with low athleticism are more likely to die, of course, which is not good as you (as Kyubey) would prefer a Witch end to a Magical Girl death.


So to give you an example of a girl profile...

*School pic of Sayaka Miki*

Sayaka Miki

Important relatives of note: None

Important friends of note: Madoka Kaname

Known Specific Wish?: Yes. Will wish to heal the hand of Kyōsuke Kamijō if you contract with her.

Magical Potential Grade: C

Intelligence - 6
Morality - 7
Emotionality - 9
Courage - 8
Work Ethic - 4
Athleticism - 7

*Sayaka is a pretty good girl to contract with, low MPG notwithstanding.*


At the beginning of the game, there will already be 100 planted witches in the city, for any new magical girls to fight in the early going. Each such witch will give birth to one familiar per day.

Should the witches/familiars ever be wiped out, magical girls will inevitably turn into witches from gradual soul gem corruption.

When approaching a girl (or girls) you will converse with them through a Visual Novel-esque screen and interface.

You will need to check in with each girl you contract with at least once per day. You have the option of watching up to 5 magical girl battles per day, but you can't interfer in them. Should you not watch them, the game will inform you of the outcomes of all such battles at the end of the day/turn (i.e. Kyōko Sakura and Sayaka Miki engaged in a brawl, hospitalizing Sayaka. Mami Tomoe killed by witch Charlotte. Akemi Homura successfully killed witch Charlotte and used grief seed.)

For each girl you contract with, you'll get a special magical girl card of her, displaying her in an action-y pose. This will go into your file that you can access to look at. Each girl will have her own unique outfit, her own style of combat, and her own specific weapon. Some girls will also have unique powers.


Once you achieve the necessary energy quota, the game ends and you get a victory scene, and a score (based on how many days are left, and how many girls left - the higher the better).

There will be a "Best End" available should you manage to get all your necessary energy quota from magical girls alone, with no witches resulting. This can only be achieved in one very specific way though, and will require contracting with the right girl with an unknown wish *after* you need just one more girl to contract with you to get your energy quota.


Overall, the game will be like a cross between a Visual Novel, Pokemon, and a world-builder like Civilization.


I'd love to see SHAFT license a game like this out to a prominent video game company, to be playable on the PS3 or XBox 360 or any gaming console really.

So what do people think of my video game idea here? Would you like to play it?

[Archon_Wing]

Yes, if it involves trolling, count me in.

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

Playing that game has helped inspire a different video game idea for me.

It's pretty lengthy and detailed, so I'm going to share it in the spoiler space below.

I'd love to know what my fellow Madoka fans think of this video game idea:

Spoiler for Kyubey: Magical Girl Creator!:

You play as Kyubey, and you start out at the central park of the suburbs of a picturesque Japanese city. Your goal is to gain a certain energy quota within six months. You get so much energy for a girl turning into a magical girl, and you get a lot of energy when a magical girl becomes a witch. You have 100 lives (you can be killed, but you get up to 99 respawns).

You are given a very detailed report by a recon operative for your race.

This report includes a profile for 100 girls between the ages of 10 and 16 within your assigned area. These 100 girls are not the only ones in the area, but they are the only ones that have enough emotional/magical potential to be worth contracting with. They will be spread out through out your area, found at one of 30 different schools. Some schools will only have 1 such girl, while others may have as many as 8 or 9. The home for each girl will also be located on your world map.

Once you've chosen a target you can choose where to approach the girl, and you can choose multiple targets at once (if they are friends with each other).


Before choosing any target, you can read through the report, and each of the profiles (the report could be opened from the main screen, and then 100 thumbnails would each provide a profile).

Each profile contains the following:

A Driver's License-esque picture of the girl in question.

The girl's name.

Important relatives of note (in most cases, the answer is "none"). A girl with important relatives of note are likely to cause problems for you if she becomes a witch, dies, or goes missing for very long. One of the 100 girls, for example, will be a close relative of "Governor Ishihara". Should she die, become a witch, or go missing for too long, the entire city will go into immediate martial law, limiting your effectiveness quite severely. In extreme cases, you might even have the Japanese military after you. It is possible for you to be killed 100 times and get "Game Over".

Important friends of note (i.e. friends that are one of the other 99 girls). A girl with important friends of note are likely to try to get her friends to contract with you as well.

Does the girl have a specific wish that we're already aware of? If so, the wish in question is listed. Girls with unknown wishes are riskier to contract with (at least 2 will give you bad "Game Over" ends if you contract with them).

Magical Potential Grade: Ranging from A+ (Madoka-level) to D (below Sayaka). The higher the magical potential, the more powerful the magical girl/witch will be, and the more energy you'll get.


Six statistical breakdowns.

Intelligence (1 to 10) - Intelligence level impacts how likely the girl is to contract with you, and also how good she will be at improvising in combat and adapting to her new magical girl body. The ideal intelligence is 7 - Not smart enough to refuse your contract offer, but smart enough to be good in combat. Girls of Intelligence 8 or above may refuse you, and you may need to be trickier in order to win them over.

Morality (1 to 10) - Morality level impacts how much the girl cares about others, and her personal sense of justice. This will impact eagerness to fight witches and familiars, as well as her ability to work with other magical girls. The ideal Morality is 7 - Not moral enough to think "Big Picture" and hence make a potentially risky wish (for you), but moral enough to want to fight witches and familiars to protect others. Girls of similar morality levels are more able to work with one another than girls of very different morality levels (a difference of 3 or more).

Emotionality (1 to 10) - Emotionality level impacts how rapidly a girl can become a witch after becoming a magical girl. The higher the emotionality the better. As with morality, girls with similar emotionality level are more able to work with one another than girls of very different emotionality levels (a difference of 3 or more).

Courage (1 to 10) - Courage level impacts a girl's willingness to put her life on the line. A girl with a very low courage level (3 or less) will avoid witches out of fear, and will only fight familiars, unless she can work with more courageous magical girls in a team. A girl with a moderate courage level (4 to 7) are willing to fight witches on their own, but will not take major risks and will not fight other magical girls. A girl with high courage level (8 to 10) will be very bold in combat, hence increasing her chance of defeating powerful witches but also increasing her chance of dying. She will also be willing to fight other magical girls.

Work Ethic (1 to 10) - Work Ethic level impacts how many fights a girl is willing to get in per day, and how long she's willing to fight. A girl with very low work ethic (3 or less) will fight the bare minimum number of witches necessary for soul gem cleansing, and will not bother with familiars, unless a lack of courage overrides this. A girl with moderate work ethic (4 to 7) will fight a witch or familiar per day. A girl with high work ethic (8 to 10) will be on Batman-esque patrols each and every evening, willing to fight multiple witches/familiars per day.

Athleticism (1 to 10) - Athleticism level impacts how good in combat the girl is. Low athleticism (3 or less) means that she's pretty awkward and is likely to miss her shots (if using long-range weaponry) and is likely to take more blows than she delivers (if a closed quarters combatant). Moderate athleticism (4 to 7) means that she'll avoid most attacks, and hit most of hers. High athleticism (8 to 10) means that she will not lose to any witch except the most powerful ones, or to most other magical girls. Girls with low athleticism are more likely to die, of course, which is not good as you (as Kyubey) would prefer a Witch end to a Magical Girl death.


So to give you an example of a girl profile...

*School pic of Sayaka Miki*

Sayaka Miki

Important relatives of note: None

Important friends of note: Madoka Kaname

Known Specific Wish?: Yes. Will wish to heal the hand of Kyōsuke Kamijō if you contract with her.

Magical Potential Grade: C

Intelligence - 6
Morality - 7
Emotionality - 9
Courage - 8
Work Ethic - 4
Athleticism - 7

*Sayaka is a pretty good girl to contract with, low MPG notwithstanding.*


At the beginning of the game, there will already be 100 planted witches in the city, for any new magical girls to fight in the early going. Each such witch will give birth to one familiar per day.

Should the witches/familiars ever be wiped out, magical girls will inevitably turn into witches from gradual soul gem corruption.

When approaching a girl (or girls) you will converse with them through a Visual Novel-esque screen and interface.

You will need to check in with each girl you contract with at least once per day. You have the option of watching up to 5 magical girl battles per day, but you can't interfer in them. Should you not watch them, the game will inform you of the outcomes of all such battles at the end of the day/turn (i.e. Kyōko Sakura and Sayaka Miki engaged in a brawl, hospitalizing Sayaka. Mami Tomoe killed by witch Charlotte. Akemi Homura successfully killed witch Charlotte and used grief seed.)

For each girl you contract with, you'll get a special magical girl card of her, displaying her in an action-y pose. This will go into your file that you can access to look at. Each girl will have her own unique outfit, her own style of combat, and her own specific weapon. Some girls will also have unique powers.


Once you achieve the necessary energy quota, the game ends and you get a victory scene, and a score (based on how many days are left, and how many girls left - the higher the better).

There will be a "Best End" available should you manage to get all your necessary energy quota from magical girls alone, with no witches resulting. This can only be achieved in one very specific way though, and will require contracting with the right girl with an unknown wish *after* you need just one more girl to contract with you to get your energy quota.


Overall, the game will be like a cross between a Visual Novel, Pokemon, and a world-builder like Civilization.


I'd love to see SHAFT license a game like this out to a prominent video game company, to be playable on the PS3 or XBox 360 or any gaming console really.

So what do people think of my video game idea here? Would you like to play it?

That's awesome......applicable for future CEOs, dictators, secret agents and other generally sneaky types...

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by Archon_Wing

Yes, if it involves trolling, count me in.

Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle

That's awesome......applicable for future CEOs, dictators, secret agents and other generally sneaky types...

Glad you guys like the idea.

I'd really love to play a game like this, lol.

[Deconstructor]

Originally Posted by Xacual

I don't know if it was posted yet at least I didn't see a link in the last 5 or so pages, but Kyuube has a game now.

http://illucalab.com/incubator/incubatore.html

Contract girls and use them to fight witches and eventually they'll become witches and fight walpurgis night at the end. My high score was 46k.

Speaking of that game... the competition is on! My best score was 86538; next time, I should aim for 90k.
EDIT: Well... I think the game got easier. I got 132.8k!

Spoiler for Large screenshot:

Originally Posted by NaweG

Those who believe in the "Strong" Gaia theory might argue that there is more to the "force" of Nature than you are giving it credit for. In that case, you could even argue that Kyubey is a more understandable representation of a willful force of nature that makes it a little easier to understand while at the same time being on another level impossible to understand.

What? I have difficulty understanding.

The entropy Kyubey speaks of has yet to be confirmed as a natural process, but if our own universe is an accurate model of the Madokaverse, then entropy is natural. Perhaps the Madokaverse's natural entropy is far more accelerated than our own, but something seems a little strange here. Even if I avoid my unfounded suspicions about Kyubey - that his technologically advanced race is the reason why heat death is coming so quickly - then Kyubey is working against the natural process of entropy. Exploiting young girls and making them feel more happiness than they probably would in their normal lives seems quite unnatural to me. While I consider human emotion to be a natural existence, the way in which Kyubey draws emotion out (through reality-changing wishes and magical circles), as well as his goal to reverse a natural process... feels very artificial.