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Baixinho · 2008-10-07, 14:44

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Originally Posted by Asleep

She didn't interact enough to really know him. When she was imprisoned she thinks to herself after hearing Nunnally's stories - which one is the real Lelouch? That means she didn't know him well.

That she assumed the first answer was the correct one itself proves she didn't know Lelouch. How many times has she fallen for his lies? I'll agree it was bad writing and they made her character look really stupid but in any case, she didn't know him that well.

You're dismissing episode 25 here.
She DID understand him in the end. And her talks with Nunally served this purpose. And actually, between ep 19 and 25 she understood him good enough to reduce the number of masks he had to only 1. It's just that it took her 3 episodes to see through the last one.

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Eh... again your opinion.

Never said otherwise, I was just saying that your interpretation was not the only one possble on that matter.

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I was actually expecting more from the magazines seeing how that was the finale. Something with some questions posed to the director or VAs.

Maybe they are saving all that for a source book or something.

So nothing interesting is said in the magazines the scans are from?

Asleep · 2008-10-07, 14:51

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Originally Posted by Baixinho

You're dismissing episode 25 here.
She DID understand him in the end. And her talks with Nunally served this purpose. And actually, between ep 19 and 25 she understood him good enough to reduce the number of masks he had to only 1. It's just that it took her 3 episodes to see through the last one.

So she understood him in the end. Well so did Kaguya. And like you said she didn't even know Lelouch.

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Originally Posted by Baixinho

Never said otherwise, I was just saying that your interpretation was not the only one possble on that matter.

Oh alright then

Rising Dragon · 2008-10-07, 14:52

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Originally Posted by Asleep

So she understood him in the end. Well so did Kaguya. And like you said she didn't even know Lelouch.

Maybe not the current Lelouch, but she has met him prior to Britannia's invasion and the rise of Zero.

Asleep · 2008-10-07, 14:57

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Maybe not the current Lelouch, but she has met him prior to Britannia's invasion and the rise of Zero.

Good point.

Baixinho said Kallen and Kaguya were different because Kallen knew both Lelouch and Zero. And I said even though Kaguya only knew Zero she understood him better than Kallen

PS I really like your avatar

Rising Dragon · 2008-10-07, 15:06

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Originally Posted by Asleep

Good point.

Baixinho said Kallen and Kaguya were different because Kallen knew both Lelouch and Zero. And I said even though Kaguya only knew Zero she understood him better than Kallen

PS I really like your avatar

Thank you.

Anyways, they are different. The Lelouch of post-invasion is different from the Lelouch of pre-invasion. Remember, during his stay at the Kururugi household, Lelouch was taught by Kirihara Taizou, which is where he got a lot of his ideals. So he'd have changed since then. Likely, Kallen does understand Lelouch better than Kaguya, but that doesn't mean Kaguya doesn't understand him at all. As C.C. said, Kaguya was able to correctly decipher one facet of Lelouch.

Asleep · 2008-10-07, 15:36

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Thank you.

Anyways, they are different. The Lelouch of post-invasion is different from the Lelouch of pre-invasion. Remember, during his stay at the Kururugi household, Lelouch was taught by Kirihara Taizou, which is where he got a lot of his ideals. So he'd have changed since then. Likely, Kallen does understand Lelouch better than Kaguya, but that doesn't mean Kaguya doesn't understand him at all. As C.C. said, Kaguya was able to correctly decipher one facet of Lelouch.

Exactly. Kallen knew him better but understood Lelouch just when Kaguya did. It shouldn't have taken her that long. Either they have made her character really unintelligent, or she didn't really know him as well as she thought she did.

Narona · 2008-10-07, 15:42

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Originally Posted by Asleep

Exactly. Kallen knew him better but understood Lelouch just when Kaguya did. It shouldn't have taken her that long. Either they have made her character really unintelligent, or she didn't really know him as well as she thought she did.

Miss Asleep, you should wait an official answer about c.c's feelings and lelouch's feelings (if they give one, someday), instead of talking with some people who only assume things (I am not talking about Mister Rising). Talking to a wall is not funny, that's why I stopped to do that yesterday

Asleep · 2008-10-07, 15:46

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Miss Asleep, you should wait an official answer about c.c's feelings and lelouch's feelings (if they give one, someday), instead of talking with some people who only assume things (I am not talking about Mister Rising). Talking to a wall is not funny, that's why I stopped to do that yesterday

I agree. I'll stop. I am bored and tired anyway

When will we get any real information? I want some official answer. Not some magazine's opinion on whether Lelouch is dead or alive.

Narona · 2008-10-07, 15:48

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I agree. I'll stop. I am bored and tired anyway

When will we get any real information? I want some official answer. Not some magazine's opinion on whether Lelouch is dead or alive.

About Lelouch's feelings? I don't know, but don't trust the opinion of one person. We are not lelouch, nor Okouchi, and overanalyzing things make people look really ridiculous (sorry)

Anyway, about lelouch's death, I got an official reply from God herself (thanks a lot to you, Koshimizu)

This month's Newtype leak is out. Director Taniguchi's words on this issue: it's up to your imaginations.

So, as expected, they will not tell you, and as expected it's ambiguous. Tada

Asleep · 2008-10-07, 15:50

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About Lelouch's feelings? I don't know, but don't trust the opinion of one person. We are not lelouch, nor Okouchi, and overanalyzing things make people look really ridiculous (sorry)

Anyway, about lelouch's death, I got an official reply from Gods (thanks a lot to you, Koshimizu)

This month's Newtype leak is out. Director Taniguchi's words on this issue: it's up to your imaginations.

So, as expected, they will not tell you, and as expected it's ambiguous. Tada

No I meant about his death.

Finally! It's better than them confirming he is dead. I'll think he is alive. Thank you Taniguchi

And thanks for posting Narona!

npal · 2008-10-07, 15:51

Leak? As in, it's out? Can someone upload a screenshot with that statement?

Eliarine · 2008-10-07, 15:53

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Originally Posted by Narona

This month's Newtype leak is out. Director Taniguchi's words on this issue: it's up to your imaginations.

Seriously? Awesome.This is the only confirmation I wanted to see.

Thank you for sharing this, Narona.

Narona · 2008-10-07, 15:53

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No I meant about his death.

Finally! It's better than them confirming he is dead. I'll think he is alive. Thank you Taniguchi

And thanks for posting Narona!

Don't thanks me, I am not the one you should thank

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Originally Posted by npal

Leak? As in, it's out? Can someone upload a screenshot with that statement?

Scans will come if not already posted (I didn't check the thread) but you can trust Koshimizu.

Kusaja · 2008-10-07, 15:58

That's good enough for me...

Personally, I'm glad that the Director thinks the issue is up to interpretation, though it would always be interesting to know more.

Thanks to Koshimizu for providing that information, and to Narona for posting it.

Narona · 2008-10-07, 16:00

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That's good enough for me...

Personally, I'm glad that the Director thinks the issue is up to interpretation, though it would always be interesting to know more.

Thanks to Koshimizu for providing that information, and to Narona for posting it.

Someone neg repped me because I haven't posted "proof"

I got some other infos, but I will not post anything. Stupid people here won. Bravo.

npal · 2008-10-07, 16:09

LOL, no worries no worries, we'll nullify that ^^ But yeah, screenies would be nice...

canpszone · 2008-10-07, 16:18

Rolo is very narrow-minded, he raised the war only for his mother but not considered other human beings

Dream_Traveller · 2008-10-07, 16:20

...Rolo of the Rebellion now, is it?

And so him getting himself killed so humanity's free of the greatest threat and icon of hatred isn't care for other human beings? Okay.

Narona · 2008-10-07, 16:21

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LOL, no worries no worries, we'll nullify that ^^ But yeah, screenies would be nice...

Thanks a lot, but that doesn't change the fact that some people here are stupid to neg rep for that.

Well, here another piece of info, from Megami (i don't know if the info is from taniguchi though), thanks to Koshimizu for the info and the comment:

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Megami magazine told us C.C. did not give him her Code, and she's going to watch over the world Lelouch left behind. (Although that still leaves the option for V.V.'s code open.)

npal · 2008-10-07, 16:26

Actually that leave ONLY V.V.'s code open if at all. I don't know, I mean... if the director says it's up to you... But then we're told that C.C. has her Code.... Lelouch got it from Charles?

I don't know... that particular theory felt kinda weak to me... Does the Code even jump on its own or something?

2008-10-07, 15:51	Link #1511
npal I desire Tomorrow! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: As far away from reality as possible Age: 41	Leak? As in, it's out? Can someone upload a screenshot with that statement? __________________

2008-10-07, 16:09	Link #1516
npal I desire Tomorrow! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: As far away from reality as possible Age: 41	LOL, no worries no worries, we'll nullify that ^^ But yeah, screenies would be nice... __________________

2008-10-07, 16:26	Link #1520
npal I desire Tomorrow! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: As far away from reality as possible Age: 41	Actually that leave ONLY V.V.'s code open if at all. I don't know, I mean... if the director says it's up to you... But then we're told that C.C. has her Code.... Lelouch got it from Charles? I don't know... that particular theory felt kinda weak to me... Does the Code even jump on its own or something? __________________

2008-10-07, 15:58	Link #1514
Kusaja Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007	That's good enough for me... Personally, I'm glad that the Director thinks the issue is up to interpretation, though it would always be interesting to know more. Thanks to Koshimizu for providing that information, and to Narona for posting it.

2008-10-07, 16:18	Link #1517
canpszone Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007	Rolo is very narrow-minded, he raised the war only for his mother but not considered other human beings

2008-10-07, 16:20	Link #1518
Dream_Traveller Banned Join Date: Jun 2007	...Rolo of the Rebellion now, is it? And so him getting himself killed so humanity's free of the greatest threat and icon of hatred isn't care for other human beings? Okay.