International Saimoe League 2009

[uis]

A: Nagi
B: Shinku
C: Misuzu
D: Makoto

Where Osaka ???

[Crisu]

Don't forget to look at http://www.internationalsaimoe.com/standings.php for a table sorted by votes.

[uis]

look like both Miyako vote become worse...

[Mushi]

Originally Posted by Demi.

Votes dropped by 400 without Touhou characters. lol'd

Why am I not surprised...

Yay! I finally got one. Go Misuzu! And I have no complaints about any of the others getting in.

[melange]

Originally Posted by Demi.

Votes dropped by 400 without Touhou characters. lol'd

Can't be explained by loss of Touhou votes alone. Touhou characters only garnered maximum of little over 200 votes in all the rounds.

Touhou votes in order of highest to lowest from all rounds:-

Reimu 219 (Round 1)
Remilia 208 (Round 2)
Marisa 203 (Round 2)
Patchouli 202 (Round 2)
Aya 176 (Round 1)
Marisa 155 (Round 1)
Remilia 151 (Round 1)
Patchouli 119 (Round 1)

[Noe]

3 of my people that I voted for got in, ic.

[uis]

No complain...

at least Misuzu and Shinku enter... i glad...

[uis]

Originally Posted by Demi.

Votes dropped by 400 without Touhou characters. lol'd

Personally that because round three in CNY and New Lunar Year that Chinese and Korean festive every year...

We can see drop vote from Kagura, Kallen, Anya and Nel vote...

[Demi.]

Originally Posted by melange

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Can't be explained by loss of Touhou votes alone. Touhou characters only garnered maximum of little over 200 votes in all the rounds.

Touhou votes in order of highest to lowest from all rounds:-

Reimu 219 (Round 1)
Remilia 208 (Round 2)
Marisa 203 (Round 2)
Patchouli 202 (Round 2)
Aya 176 (Round 1)
Marisa 155 (Round 1)
Remilia 151 (Round 1)
Patchouli 119 (Round 1)

I think It's because not all Touhou fans are supporting every Touhou character. Just because 219 is the most garnered, doesn't mean all Touhou fans where a fan of that one character. I'm sure some votes lost where caused by top 8 already moving on(although 5 of those 8 are Touhou) - But 400votes don't vanish out of thin air for no reason.

Personally that because round three in CNY and New Lunar Year that Chinese and Korean festive every year...

Perhaps, but that would mean they're 400 or more Koreans voting in ISML...But really, it takes a few seconds to vote, so I don't think THAT many would abstain.

[KholdStare]

Preliminary Round 3

Group A:

Total Votes: 1003
Good Performance: > 149.86
Bad Performance: < 50.74

20.44% Nagi, 205
---
13.06% Kawashima Ami, 131
12.96% Anya Alstreim, 130
11.27% Yagami Hayate, 113
10.57% Ryōgi Shiki, 106
10.27% Seto San, 103
6.38% Amamiya Yūko, 64
5.78% Shihō Matsuri, 58
5.68% Vita, 57
---
3.59% Miyamura Miyako, 36

Group B:

Total Votes: 1020
Good Performance: > 133.19
Bad Performance: < 70.81

15.00% Shinku, 153
14.02% Chii, 143
---
12.25% Minami Chiaki, 125
10.78% Nogizaka Haruka, 110
9.71% Kagura, 99
9.41% Misaka Shiori, 96
8.82% Tsukamoto Yakumo, 90
7.45% Sakihata Rimi, 76
7.06% Kōzuki Kallen, 72
---
5.49% Shirakawa Kotori, 56

Group C:

Total Votes: 1008
Good Performance: > 148.86
Bad Performance: < 52.74

16.87% Kamio Misuzu, 170
16.27% Sunohara Mei, 164
---
14.48% Misaka Mikoto, 146
13.79% Katagiri Yūhi, 139
8.04% Ranka Lee, 81
7.44% Shindō Chihiro, 75
6.75% Zange, 68
6.05% Yin, 61
5.46% Neliel Tu Oderschvank, 55
---
4.86% Sheryl Nome, 49

Group D:

Total Votes: 1017
Good Performance: > 149.85
Bad Performance: < 53.55

18.29% Sawatari Makoto, 186
14.95% Illyasviel von Einzbern, 152
---
12.59% Kasuga "Osaka" Ayumu, 128
12.00% Index, 122
10.42% Alice Carroll, 106
9.93% Isayama Yomi, 101
8.26% Nagase Minato, 84
5.41% Aoba Tsugumi, 55
5.41% Yuno, 55
---
2.75% Miyako, 28

Statistics:
Group with highest participation: Group A of Round 2, ∑ = 1420
Group with lowest participation: Group A of Round 3, ∑ = 1003
Most competitive group: Group B of Round 3, σ = 31.19
Least competitive group: Group A of Round 2, σ = 54.48

Characters with highest round 3 performance:

• Nagi: 16.53
• Kamio Misuzu: 15.35
• Sunohara Mei: 14.80
• Sawatari Makoto: 14.79
• Shinku: 13.65

Characters with highest individual performance:

• Hakurei Reimu: 16.67, R1
• Nagi: 16.53, R3
• Aisaka Taiga: 15.75, R1
• Kushieda Minori: 15.35, R2
• Kamio Misuzu: 15.35, R3

Characters with highest total performance:

• Hakurei Reimu: 16.67
• Aisaka Taiga: 15.75
• Shameimaru Aya: 14.67
• Kirisame Marisa: 14.12
• Hinamori Amu: 13.96

Characters with lowest total performance:

• Aoba Tsugumi: 4.56
• Sheryl Nome: 4.38
• Shirakawa Kotori: 4.28
• Miyamura Miyako: 3.27
• Miyako (Hidamari): 3.20

Characters with highest increased performance:

• Nagi: +5.46
• Kamio Misuzu: +4.73
• Misaka Mikoto: +4.71
• Sunohara Mei: +3.66
• Sawatari Makoto: +3.60

Characters with highest decreased performance:

• Aoba Tsugumi: -1.40
• Neliel Tu Oderschvank: -1.78
• Anya Alstreim: -1.97
• Kasuga "Osaka" Ayumu: -2.34
• Yin: -2.37

[Ithekro]

Official KyoAni count is now 17 girls in...two left (Mei was really, really close behind Misuzu.)

Chii was also really close behind Shinku. Looks like Gin and Desu will be happy.

Osaka did worse than I expected...but Makoto plowed that group.

And Nagi owned her group without any questions asked.

(What was that about fearing Korea?)

[melange]

Originally Posted by Demi.

I think It's because not all Touhou fans are supporting every Touhou character. Just because 219 is the most garnered, doesn't mean all Touhou fans where a fan of that one character. I'm sure some votes lost where caused by top 8 already moving on(although 5 of those 8 are Touhou) - But 400votes don't vanish out of thin air for no reason.

Perhaps, but that would mean they're 400 or more Koreans voting in ISML...But really, it takes a few seconds to vote, so I don't think THAT many would abstain.

I'm just saying it cannot be explained by Touhou votes disappearing alone cos that assumes Touhou votes are 400 strong which is a proposition I dismiss. Just like you dismiss the proposition of 400 or more Koreans disappearing from ISML because of the Lunar New Year. But put both those explanations together then the 400 vote disappearance is explainable.

I know of at least some Touhou votes sticking around and continuing to vote. And I also would not dismiss the Lunar New Year as a big factor, because it is a huge thing for the communities involved in it. Not just Korea, but China, Singapore, Malaysia etc..

[Antenor]

2/4 on my predictions, not too bad. I'm just glad Misuzu and Makoto are finally in... Nagi too.

Not to rag on the Touhou crowd, but it was frankly irritating to see characters from a single-episode fan-made OVA dominate like this... Especially when the only characters breaking through are all very serious contenders for the top 16!

I guess I overestimated Korea. Completely forgot about the Lunar New Year.

[Eater of All]

Well, it looks like the whole game shifted all of a sudden with the 400 votes gone.

And my confidence in Seto San just took a plunge.


EDIT: My total for preliminaries: 1/12

[Ithekro]

Next round it after the New Years correct? So should we expect an increase?

[Demi.]

Minty, any way of knowing the voting demographic of the past and current matches for prelims?

[melange]

Graph showing the drops in votes for characters in Round 3 compared with the votes they gathered in Round 2

Round 3 votes are shown in the more opaque bars on top, Round 2 votes in the more transparent bars on the bottom.

I'm not too sure that ISML actively tracks voter demographics by geography...

[Ithekro]

IP tracking can give at least a guess as to geography...assuming the IP Addresses are being used in their home location.

[chaosprophet]

This time only Shinku won from the ones I voted. But I liked that Nagi is in but it wasn't a priority for me.

[Eisdrache]

Table time

Tables sorted by Groups / Most votes / Avg.votes / Series:



New categories:

Votes compared to last round / Votes compared in tournament:



Its interesting to see that Shinku lost 8 22 votes but still qualified.