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Kurohane · 2013-04-10, 01:32

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Originally Posted by 00-Raiser

New Force chapter out.

So yeah, the Bureau are kinda prejudiced. "We see all you guys as the same, even if you're clearly not working together!"

Makes me wonder how much of the stuff the TSAB blame the Huckebein for were actually done by the Huckebein.

New chapter? You mean this chapter came in two parts agian this month?

I'm telling you, Thoma and his friends are being treated differently due to favoritism. If Subaru and others didn't know him, they wouldn't have half the freedom they have now.

Considering the Huckebein have sort of took responsibility of the raid on Vaindein, and Cypha admitted to the village slaughter, they have no qualms about accepting responsibility for what they've done. However, considering most of the village raids are done by Vaindein infectees, and the fact Arnage said they were being singled out. I'd imagine they have done little in what SS6 is investigating.

By the way 00-Raiser, was your birthday in the last few months? I noticed your age incremented.

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Originally Posted by bhl88

It's Signum.... if it was Touma, he'd see them separately.

Was Signum the one who made that comment 00-Raiser quoted? Also, was Thoma there as well when it was said?

Keroko · 2013-04-10, 04:33

The actual quote is "from our point of view, you're the same criminal organization." Which is... still uncharacteristically prejudiced and short sighted.

I suppose that since Signum follows it up with "we'll hear about motives and members in the stations interrogation room" she means "we don't know much about you" but the wording of the former is... terrible.

Though she does acknowledge all of them as patients needing treatment.

Also, Isis does not mess around. "Darn, I need to stop that girl from running away. Oh! I know! I'll just blow of her legs."

00-Raiser · 2013-04-10, 07:01

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Originally Posted by Kurohane

New chapter? You mean this chapter came in two parts agian this month?

No, I mean a new chapter is out in english.

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Originally Posted by Kurohane

By the way 00-Raiser, was your birthday in the last few months? I noticed your age incremented.

It was the 21st of March.

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Originally Posted by Keroko

Though she does acknowledge all of them as patients needing treatment.

Yeah, at least they acknowledge that much.

My favourite part is still when Quinn forcibly turns Thoma's head to alert him to Mariya's attack

Kireen · 2013-04-10, 07:43

Just asking if I got this right, but the gladiator basically consist into a sword and a buckler with an installed falmethrower and the oxtongue is a gun sized strike cannon?

Akiyoshi · 2013-04-10, 09:06

Finally watched chapter...

On Signum and Section Six's defense she was talking from what little information she osses about the case, it doesn't help the Huckebein aren't putting any effot on defending themselves from those accussations, Cypha even goes ahead and told Sgnum she was the one who slaughtered a village herself xDU If that's a hoax i don't have any idea why are these guys doing that xDU It's true that Signum comes out a bit dickish with her claims but considering the Huckebein already has given chance to talk things out and they refused and answered with extreme violence it's no wonder Section Six now respond with a "trash first, question later" policy.

And second, they got the Grendels captured with binds? The hell? Well, unless those are a special case of AEC-binds i don't get how they can be capured with those xDU Cypha break Agito's binds without even trying and then Curren break Fate's even easier during their assault on Hardis on oncoming chapters.

Nice translation, i can feel Signum's dissapointmnt at the end, se surely wanted to finally beat and capture Cypha, let's see how that turns out by the end of the season. Also Cypha is starting to make a trademark of losing limbs in her fights xDU Kinda like Neil on Dragon Ball Abridged xDU

Kurohane · 2013-04-10, 11:21

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Originally Posted by 00-Raiser

No, I mean a new chapter is out in english.

It was the 21st of March.

Yeah, at least they acknowledge that much.

My favourite part is still when Quinn forcibly turns Thoma's head to alert him to Mariya's attack

Oh, I haven't checked ZSS webiste in a while. Thanks for letting us know. Also, Happy Belated Bithday.

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Originally Posted by Akiyoshi

Finally watched chapter...

On Signum and Section Six's defense she was talking from what little information she osses about the case, it doesn't help the Huckebein aren't putting any effot on defending themselves from those accussations, Cypha even goes ahead and told Sgnum she was the one who slaughtered a village herself xDU If that's a hoax i don't have any idea why are these guys doing that xDU It's true that Signum comes out a bit dickish with her claims but considering the Huckebein already has given chance to talk things out and they refused and answered with extreme violence it's no wonder Section Six now respond with a "trash first, question later" policy.

And second, they got the Grendels captured with binds? The hell? Well, unless those are a special case of AEC-binds i don't get how they can be capured with those xDU Cypha break Agito's binds without even trying and then Curren break Fate's even easier during their assault on Hardis on oncoming chapters.

Nice translation, i can feel Signum's dissapointmnt at the end, se surely wanted to finally beat and capture Cypha, let's see how that turns out by the end of the season. Also Cypha is starting to make a trademark of losing limbs in her fights xDU Kinda like Neil on Dragon Ball Abridged xDU

When have Huckbein been given a chance to talk things out? SS6 has always said to capture them whatever it takes through any means.

Also, the Grendels being captured by binds shows reason that their EC infection is at the initial stages or purposefully downgraded before infection as discussed.

Well, technically, Signum did beat Cypha. It's just the capture she failed at. Lol, you watch DBZ Abriged too?

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Keroko · 2013-04-10, 11:23

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Originally Posted by Kurohane

When have Huckbein been given a chance to talk things out?

At the office after they're captured.

Justin_Brett · 2013-04-10, 11:25

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Also, Isis does not mess around. "Darn, I need to stop that girl from running away. Oh! I know! I'll just blow of her legs."

That's one more fight than Touma has won himself, too.

Kurohane · 2013-04-10, 11:26

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Originally Posted by Keroko

At the office after they're captured.

Lol, yeah, probably, but that hasn't happened yet.

Akiyoshi · 2013-04-10, 11:29

Even if rough, Signum attempted to allow Cypha a chance to defend herself not one but twice during their first encounter with the latter mockingly refusing both times. Afterwards Fate tried the same with Deville who more elaborately refused by saying something along the lines of "stop trying we won't fall for that". And then there's Tohma and his overly eager sypathy for dangerous criminals xDU So, at the eyes of Section Six, the Huckebein are willingly refusing help and challenging the authorities. I wonder if that's what Curren wants and if that's the case i wonder what's the reason behind that.

About the Grendels, yeah, probably their infection is a weaker-but-safer version of the one used on the Hucks.

And yeah, DBZ Abridged is one of the curren gems of the internet xD!

Keroko · 2013-04-10, 12:07

The position of both sides is understandable. The Eclipse infected are all outcasts because of their infection. Nobody wants to be around an infected for long, after all. I imagine that even in a warzone commander and front-line troop alike would get nervous, wondering when they become the next "meal." Since no decent treatment has existed up till now, much less a permanent cure, "capture" generally must have meant "become a lab-rat" or a death sentence. They have no reason to trust anyone but their own.

Meanwhile on the Bureau, and every other law enforcer's side, The Hucks are the most prominent Eclipse users, and no other organization has been stepping forward claiming a name until now. It would be kind of like if Al Quida would be the only known terrorist organization. Every single terrorist attack would be attributed to them. And they would want to capture before letting them talk as well, after all just by being infected with Eclipse there's an almost guaranteed certainty that these people have killed someone, which meas they are not someone you would want to treat lightly.

Akiyoshi · 2013-04-10, 12:24

Yep, i think that's a nice summary but still escapes me why the Hucks do nothing to try and clear their names in front of the Bureau, when Veyron and Arnage faced Dego and Marty Arnage was clearly pissed at them claiming they're doing things that would latter be claimed on the Huckebein. yet we have Fortis, Stella and Cypha telling everyone they're unrepenant killers that left no survivors each chance they get xDU

Are they trying to build up an image of "complete monsters" for a specific reason?

Kurohane · 2013-04-10, 12:35

^ Most likely because they are mercenaries, and have taken lives, even if they aren't the ones responsible for this case. However, you are exagerating about the slaughtering. Fortis only told Thoma what they would do if given a job like that. He didn't say that they would actually accept one or have. Cypha said she didn't plan to kill anyone, but a "need" arose. We still don't know what that need was. Also, Stella is a kid with limited speech for most of the time. Surely, she'll ramble given the chance.

Keroko · 2013-04-10, 12:35

Cypha did, actually. They're just not interested in putting too much effort convincing the people who are going to try and capture them anyway. Cypha just went "uh, she's not one of us" and when Signum went "don't care" she just went "kay, lets fight then" in return.

LostSome · 2013-04-10, 13:19

Using Signum and Cypha for negociations... Good idea ! lol

How exactly can they prove the innocence, Aki ?
Thoma believes them, but Hayate and co. are hammering on him for it.
And why wasting time with all the red tape that is TSAB ?

Akiyoshi · 2013-04-10, 13:31

I understand not trusting the TSAB, but i don't undertand why accepting blame for something apparently they did nothing to do with is a good idea xDU

If Cypha didn't slaughtered that village why she accepted full blame for that? Sure, if she was sure to kill Signum and Agito then it doesn't matter what she says as they won't be able to tell anyone, but they survived so that village slaughter is yet another incident misblamed on the Huckebein thanks to Cypha's cockiness xDU

bhl88 · 2013-04-10, 13:33

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Originally Posted by Kurohane

Was Signum the one who made that comment 00-Raiser quoted? Also, was Thoma there as well when it was said?

I meant Touma will not see eye to eye with Signum.

Signum: They are all the same.
Touma: Cypha's group. unknown group.

LostSome · 2013-04-10, 14:01

For the village that Signum talked about, we don`t know if Cypha did it or not...
She said she did and maybe she did. A village of 100 with over 30 of them being TSAB officiers is a little weird to me, but whatever.

And the Hulks are doing something about it : They are hunting down those who framed them.
Doing justice, Hulk style. Headploding style !

After 23 and 24, I`m starting to think Cypha has a big sister complex.

Justin_Brett · 2013-04-10, 14:03

If they were meant to not see eye to eye, she'd have probably had something to say about him encouraging Cypha to do her best as well.

He did hear it was her who put Signum in the hospital, right?

Akiyoshi · 2013-04-10, 14:05

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Originally Posted by LostSome

After 23 and 24, I`m starting to think Cypha has a big sister complex.

Being forced by circustances to be smug and harsh with almost anyone who crosses her path... that surely can generate lots of stress, Cypha has to have someone she can deposit some affection on xD

EDIT: Page claimed for Judge Signum xD!

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Keroko Adeptus Animus Author Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 36	The actual quote is "from our point of view, you're the same criminal organization." Which is... still uncharacteristically prejudiced and short sighted. I suppose that since Signum follows it up with "we'll hear about motives and members in the stations interrogation room" she means "we don't know much about you" but the wording of the former is... terrible. Though she does acknowledge all of them as patients needing treatment. Also, Isis does not mess around. "Darn, I need to stop that girl from running away. Oh! I know! I'll just blow of her legs." Last edited by Keroko; 2013-04-10 at 07:25.

2013-04-10, 09:06	Link #7905
Akiyoshi The Flame Crussader Join Date: Aug 2009	Finally watched chapter... On Signum and Section Six's defense she was talking from what little information she osses about the case, it doesn't help the Huckebein aren't putting any effot on defending themselves from those accussations, Cypha even goes ahead and told Sgnum she was the one who slaughtered a village herself xDU If that's a hoax i don't have any idea why are these guys doing that xDU It's true that Signum comes out a bit dickish with her claims but considering the Huckebein already has given chance to talk things out and they refused and answered with extreme violence it's no wonder Section Six now respond with a "trash first, question later" policy. And second, they got the Grendels captured with binds? The hell? Well, unless those are a special case of AEC-binds i don't get how they can be capured with those xDU Cypha break Agito's binds without even trying and then Curren break Fate's even easier during their assault on Hardis on oncoming chapters. Nice translation, i can feel Signum's dissapointmnt at the end, se surely wanted to finally beat and capture Cypha, let's see how that turns out by the end of the season. Also Cypha is starting to make a trademark of losing limbs in her fights xDU Kinda like Neil on Dragon Ball Abridged xDU __________________ May 29 2010-2019 ...9 years ago, the day after never would be the same ~The ASFB~

2013-04-10, 11:29	Link #7910
Akiyoshi The Flame Crussader Join Date: Aug 2009	Even if rough, Signum attempted to allow Cypha a chance to defend herself not one but twice during their first encounter with the latter mockingly refusing both times. Afterwards Fate tried the same with Deville who more elaborately refused by saying something along the lines of "stop trying we won't fall for that". And then there's Tohma and his overly eager sypathy for dangerous criminals xDU So, at the eyes of Section Six, the Huckebein are willingly refusing help and challenging the authorities. I wonder if that's what Curren wants and if that's the case i wonder what's the reason behind that. About the Grendels, yeah, probably their infection is a weaker-but-safer version of the one used on the Hucks. And yeah, DBZ Abridged is one of the curren gems of the internet xD! __________________ May 29 2010-2019 ...9 years ago, the day after never would be the same ~The ASFB~

2013-04-10, 12:24	Link #7912
Akiyoshi The Flame Crussader Join Date: Aug 2009	Yep, i think that's a nice summary but still escapes me why the Hucks do nothing to try and clear their names in front of the Bureau, when Veyron and Arnage faced Dego and Marty Arnage was clearly pissed at them claiming they're doing things that would latter be claimed on the Huckebein. yet we have Fortis, Stella and Cypha telling everyone they're unrepenant killers that left no survivors each chance they get xDU Are they trying to build up an image of "complete monsters" for a specific reason? __________________ May 29 2010-2019 ...9 years ago, the day after never would be the same ~The ASFB~

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Kurohane Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012	^ Most likely because they are mercenaries, and have taken lives, even if they aren't the ones responsible for this case. However, you are exagerating about the slaughtering. Fortis only told Thoma what they would do if given a job like that. He didn't say that they would actually accept one or have. Cypha said she didn't plan to kill anyone, but a "need" arose. We still don't know what that need was. Also, Stella is a kid with limited speech for most of the time. Surely, she'll ramble given the chance. __________________

2013-04-10, 07:43	Link #7904
Kireen Uchuu Kaizoku Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: From Italy	Just asking if I got this right, but the gladiator basically consist into a sword and a buckler with an installed falmethrower and the oxtongue is a gun sized strike cannon?

2013-04-10, 12:07	Link #7911
Keroko Adeptus Animus Author Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 36	The position of both sides is understandable. The Eclipse infected are all outcasts because of their infection. Nobody wants to be around an infected for long, after all. I imagine that even in a warzone commander and front-line troop alike would get nervous, wondering when they become the next "meal." Since no decent treatment has existed up till now, much less a permanent cure, "capture" generally must have meant "become a lab-rat" or a death sentence. They have no reason to trust anyone but their own. Meanwhile on the Bureau, and every other law enforcer's side, The Hucks are the most prominent Eclipse users, and no other organization has been stepping forward claiming a name until now. It would be kind of like if Al Quida would be the only known terrorist organization. Every single terrorist attack would be attributed to them. And they would want to capture before letting them talk as well, after all just by being infected with Eclipse there's an almost guaranteed certainty that these people have killed someone, which meas they are not someone you would want to treat lightly.

2013-04-10, 12:35	Link #7914
Keroko Adeptus Animus Author Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 36	Cypha did, actually. They're just not interested in putting too much effort convincing the people who are going to try and capture them anyway. Cypha just went "uh, she's not one of us" and when Signum went "don't care" she just went "kay, lets fight then" in return.

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LostSome Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Canada	Using Signum and Cypha for negociations... Good idea ! lol How exactly can they prove the innocence, Aki ? Thoma believes them, but Hayate and co. are hammering on him for it. And why wasting time with all the red tape that is TSAB ? __________________ Nyohohohoho ! It`s the law of the universe that only wizards die as virgins. You can`t let yourself die as a virgin, right ? -Old geezer.

2013-04-10, 13:31	Link #7916
Akiyoshi The Flame Crussader Join Date: Aug 2009	I understand not trusting the TSAB, but i don't undertand why accepting blame for something apparently they did nothing to do with is a good idea xDU If Cypha didn't slaughtered that village why she accepted full blame for that? Sure, if she was sure to kill Signum and Agito then it doesn't matter what she says as they won't be able to tell anyone, but they survived so that village slaughter is yet another incident misblamed on the Huckebein thanks to Cypha's cockiness xDU __________________ May 29 2010-2019 ...9 years ago, the day after never would be the same ~The ASFB~

2013-04-10, 14:01	Link #7918
LostSome Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Canada	For the village that Signum talked about, we don`t know if Cypha did it or not... She said she did and maybe she did. A village of 100 with over 30 of them being TSAB officiers is a little weird to me, but whatever. And the Hulks are doing something about it : They are hunting down those who framed them. Doing justice, Hulk style. Headploding style ! After 23 and 24, I`m starting to think Cypha has a big sister complex. __________________ Nyohohohoho ! It`s the law of the universe that only wizards die as virgins. You can`t let yourself die as a virgin, right ? -Old geezer.

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Justin_Brett Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Canada, Sault Ste. Marie	If they were meant to not see eye to eye, she'd have probably had something to say about him encouraging Cypha to do her best as well. He did hear it was her who put Signum in the hospital, right?