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Satou, Tanaka an Yoshida can't rationalize anymore because they understand "the truth of the world". In binary terms, if the world put everyone on the planet with a variable equal to zero under a hypnosis to convince them someone doesn't exist, those three have their variable set to "one"; they're unaffected by whatever spell or system affects memory but they're still part of said system, unlike Flame Haze that aren't even recognized. Akin to "Torches" in a sense, I guess.
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2008-03-05, 02:38 | Link #122 | |
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A question now, anyone know why magic spells are called Unrestricted Spell instead of just Spell? In the anime they show how the Reiji Maigo can be manipulated to gain infinite energy. Where is that energy coming from? If the Reiji Maigo can restore used energy, can the Reiji Maigo be adjusted to restore the energy every nanosecond of the 24 hours period, thereby granting its owner unlimited energy? It seems possible since they show it happening once before, albeit in an uncontrolled outburst. Last edited by tntrulez; 2008-03-05 at 02:50. |
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2008-03-05, 10:11 | Link #123 | ||
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macguffin Takahashi never explicitly explained how the Reiji Maigo really works, if everyone understood how it works, they would be making their own instead of trying to consume humans or get Yuji. Just like how they never explained how the Holy Grail makes one immortal or heals wounds in Indiana Jones. |
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2008-03-20, 15:40 | Link #125 |
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So, the ring that Yuji wears to block flames. How exactly has that hougu helped him? In the anime season II, it doesn't seem to have blocked anything.
Also, seeing that Shana isn't a human anymore, can she technically actually have a baby???? |
2008-04-02, 08:42 | Link #129 | |
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However, I was speaking from Yuji's (her partner's) point of view, where a more developed Shana would be preferable. A few more years is all I ask.
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2008-04-07, 03:07 | Link #130 |
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Spoiler for Theories and question. Better to spoil it.:
Do any one know or can retell the novel arc? I apologies for any spell issues, I have used spell check. Heck, thanks to spell check I had to write this post twice... |
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This is where Torches come in handy. Think of PoE like a stone statue, and a Torch an ice statue, over time, the ice statue would slowly melt away while the people slowly "adjust" to the Torch's fading existence by naturally ignoring him, over time not even realizing he's even there. This applies even to your Toyota director. Even after he has disappeared, Toyota would still be there, occasionally people would wonder "Hmm? I wonder who founded this company? Why can't I just remember?" But they will always find some way to "rationalise" why they have forgotten about him. Quote:
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Their main purpose is to "lend" their existence to the Crimson Lord they made a contract with, in return the Crimson Lord imbues them with their power and allows them to live forever. Please see my previous entires about Flame Hazes for more. |
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2008-04-08, 09:29 | Link #132 |
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Thank you very much for the answer Kinny Riddle, I already spent about 20 hours reading forums and its NOT easy. So any link to particular part would be appreciated. With so much information floating in, it is easy to lose the track.
Another question is just a thought. But, since Denizens don't belong in our world and that why they don't have an existence and cannot exist here, so they consume existence here. The big question is, if a human to ever travel to Guze, will the effect be reversed and a human will need to consume Denizens in order to stay in that world? |
2008-04-08, 10:15 | Link #133 | |
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Humans being of the less advanced race can never reach the other side, and it is unlikely that they would ever seek to, for it is beyond their understanding. |
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2008-04-09, 08:37 | Link #134 |
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I was wondering:
Shana is named after her sword, Nietono no Shana (贄殿遮那, Nietono no Shana? "Vairocana of the Offering Room") (From wikipedia) But in English translation there is no clue of Shana. SO! What does shana means in Japanese?? |
2008-04-09, 10:53 | Link #137 | ||
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The kanji is just incidentally pronounced the same way as your "Shana", but its origin is entirely different, as suggested by the kanji itself. Since Takahashi Yashiro's whole concept of existence in the series is deeply influenced by Buddhism, "Nietono no Shana" is no different. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vairocana 「遮那」- "Shana" is derived from one of the Buddhist deities "Vairocana" 「毘盧遮那佛」 (The "c" is pronounced as "ch", as seen in certain Slavic names) Quote:
「贄殿」- "Nietono", probably roughly meaning "Holy" or "Sacred". 「殿」- "dono" is a commonly used suffix (like -san, -chan, -kun, -sama, etc) reserved for honourable or venerable people/being, for example "Hime-dono" (Princess-dono). 「贄」 - "Nie" is a quite archaic word I'm not too familiar with. So the whole thing 「贄殿遮那」"Nietono no Shana" roughly translates to "The Holy/Venerable Shana" or something like that. |
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2008-04-09, 11:19 | Link #138 | |
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But regarding my earlier post, go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shana. Perhaps a coincidence that the name has multiple meanings in different languages. |
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2008-04-11, 14:21 | Link #139 |
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So, the Behemoth is the oldes of Guze Kings if I am not mistaking. So goes Alastore?
Wonder if any one know how to set the Guze Kings and characters from Novel/Anime in a way of when they first appear and how long they been living compared to others. |
2008-04-16, 03:23 | Link #140 |
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As I have an insatiable urge to write fanfiction for Shakugan no Shana, I thought I should get a few things cleared up so that I could do it right.
First Issue. From reading the beginning of the thread, it seems to be that people are saying that your Power of Existence is how many people know you. This makes the least amount of sense to me out of anything in the series. I have no idea how that could possibly relate to using unrestricted spells. Please tell me where this is stated in Canon. My impression of it from watching the anime was that Power of Existence is comparable to your will to live, as when Hirai (Torch) was running low on it, she became withdrawn, yet when Ike was mentioned, she would begin to respond. Those who had a strong will to live, such as those who desired vengence above all else, would have a strong power of existence, and thus made useful Flame Hazes. This is what I inferred from watching the show. I figured that their existence could be used for unrestricted spells becuase it was in essence, their life force. The anime seems to support this. However, I don't get how if it is not thier life force, then if part of their existence is eaten, they die. Please explain this to me, as well as where it is stated in canon that PoE is no more than reputation. Second Issue. If PoE is requiered to be used up for Unrestricted Spells, then why is it that Flame Hazes do not eventually run out and die? Margary, for example, should she have had even a large PoE, should burn through it in one battle with all the high level spells she casts. I do not understand. In addition, Yuji starts to run out when he uses too much, so how can they bend such a thing? To me, it seems as if Flame Hazes are capable of generating infinite PoE for themselves - something I cannot understand. Third Issue. If it is a quote 'unrestricted spell' then why are they often impossible to use without a certain object? Fourth Issue. Why is it that a lot of characters can make things levitate for apparently no reason? The Destructive Blade's flying swords, and Wilhelmina's bandages, for example. Fifth Issue. Would it, in theory, be possible to have a Torch be a Flame Haze? After all, Yuji seems quite similar - in fact, he possesses all the powers of a Flame Haze by the Second Season, short of Flight, something all Tomogara and Flame Haze seem to be able to do naturally. Due to the fact that Flame Haze never seem to run out of Power of Existence, I cannot see why making a Torch a Flame Haze would not prolong it's life indefinitly. Sixth Issue. Shana. She seems to defy all known attributes of a Flame Haze. Unlike Wilhelmina, she cannot levitate without her wings, unlike Margary, she uses no unrestricted spells (excluding the seal). Even Wilhelmina uses unrestricted spells on her bandages to make them explode, but Shana seems to not have any sort of innate power whatsoever. In fact, from what I can see so far, despite being the main character, she has the least power out of any Flame Haze introduced, except for the boy in Margary's flashback. I just don't get it. What's with her? Seventh Issue. What the heck is the full story behind this Festival Snake thing I heard about. Becuase what I know makes no sense to me at all. ------------ There. What I want to know. Please respond thoroughly - I cannot base my writing off of shaky opinions, only facts. |
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