2011-03-23, 22:03 | Link #9181 | |
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Or perhaps you're thinking of the part where he took control of the white wings and use it to stab Kakine? THat was all still just his own Redirection powers.
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2011-03-23, 22:06 | Link #9182 | ||
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2011-03-23, 22:17 | Link #9183 | |
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Even if Mikoto were to Awaken, she'd be no match for unawakened Accel, though perhaps her awakened form might bear something Aleister wants to keep in check. |
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2011-03-23, 22:30 | Link #9184 | ||
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...No, you didn't misread. If taken literally it would mean that the wings are made of Dark Matter. Strange, I've always thought it was AIM, which are also elementary particles that don't exist in this world- ARGH! This is confusing... Okay, compromise, it's an element particle that doesn't exist like Dark Matter, but it doesn't possess the matter changing properties that Kakine has. Quote:
GAHHH! FLERE! COME CLARIFY THIS MEEESSSSSSS!!!!!!
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2011-03-23, 22:40 | Link #9185 |
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Well from what I can infer is that Alistair is trying to create level six's, which are kind of like artificial angels, like Accelerator who has a very rare esper power. So what if someone, like Touma with divine powers, awaken to be on the scale of an Archangel, because even though Accelerator had awoken he was still no match for Gabriel alone, so Touma whose power can be considered divine might turn into an Archangel type if he ever awoken.
On the topic of Mikoto awakening I don't think it's possible, in order to awaken you need to have some life changing revelation, and the only people who had one were people who were deep in the cities "darkness". Also her power is one of the most common, it can't be classified as a divine power, and the only people who has awoken had either divine (in appearance), or very rare powers.
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2011-03-23, 22:43 | Link #9186 |
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This whole "awakening" thing makes me wonder just how much foreshadowing the Angel Fall arc was doing when it said that you can't raise yourself to an angelic hierarchy without knocking one of them off and taking their power.
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2011-03-23, 22:48 | Link #9187 | |
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If touma awakens it'll be like accelerator as a level 5. Higher than god = level 5 Fiamma=misaka Touma=accelerator Same class above god but touma is higher So calculate that and move x to the other side of the equation(blah blah blah) Touma + x= Gabriel is his bitch when x= - right hand |
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2011-03-23, 22:49 | Link #9188 | |
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2011-03-23, 22:59 | Link #9190 |
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U don't get it?
Fiamma and touma are and have the capability of beige higher than god. But it shows touma is stronger in the "higher than god" level. It's the same with misaka and accelerator. Accelerator says it him self perfectly. He has no choice but to be put in the level 5class when he owns everyone with ease and he can take misaka down in 2 minutes. It's not confusing. It's just speculation on what means what. The hardest thing I had to understand in this series is kiharas punches |
2011-03-23, 23:03 | Link #9191 | |
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2011-03-23, 23:16 | Link #9193 | |
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And as for Aiwass, it only comented about Touma didn't taking a look to the other side before leaving Academy City, though is unknown what was Aiwass talking about. What? Comparing Mikoto with our dear fatalist from God's Right Seat who got owned by Aleister yet he still is alive? Thats crazy . |
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2011-03-23, 23:26 | Link #9195 | |||
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The wikia still has a things to fix:
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From volume 20 after Accelerator's defeat in hand of Touma: Quote:
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2011-03-24, 00:14 | Link #9196 | |
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LoL Misaka comparing to Fiamma
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The difference is so huge it's a laughing matter. Fiamma still wins against Touma in normal condition. The only wrong thing that Fiamma made is cutting off his right hand which seals the thing inside Touma but Touma himself is still proven higher than that. Their strength isn't that much different by normal means. The one who absolute negate any super natural phenomenon and the other one who has the absolute power to conquer your enemy. Misaka is lightning the most common thing their is. Comparing it to special case Accelerator which can control vector but within range of telekinesis. The only thing that I can compare to Accelerator is Kakine and Kakine's power is pretty different and not normal science at all because it over writes the law settings for the matter of this plane.
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2011-03-24, 00:49 | Link #9197 |
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Aside the fact whether she can or not awaken, I read the author doesn't want to involve her too much inside Index since she got her own serie.
And yes, if everything would have gone how Fiamma wanted it, Touma would be ashes. It was angelerator who saved the day this time. |
2011-03-24, 00:53 | Link #9198 |
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Touma can deal with the concentrated telesma but he will be the only one who survived or rather anything that's behind him will be fine. It will ended up like in the event in railgun. It will take few seconds to completely erase the concentrated telesma and that few seconds is enough to turn cinders the land of Russia.
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2011-03-24, 01:14 | Link #9199 | |
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Anyway, the 'Parameter List' is basically a estimation to what point a esper can get up to while using minimal resources. It's like diminishing returns, where at beginning it might take 1 unit of resource to get 100 units of power, eventually it might get up to 100 or 1,000 units of resource to get that 100 unit of power. At a certain point it's just not efficient to let the esper keep growing, so AC will move the resources to someone else. Mikoto, according to the afterword, basically haven't reached the limits of her power yet, she can still grow. BUT... by no means that means the same as "she can 'awaken'". Personally, I'm guessing Mikoto might get to the stage where she can destroy a entire country with a thunderstorm, but nowhere near the other H4X people who can destroy the Earth with just one attack. And as a side note about Awakening, I have to point out Touma's awakening is not the same as Accel's or Kakine's. Ref here: http://toarumajutsunoindex.wikia.com/wiki/Awakening |
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