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Madoka Magica vs. Pretty Cure: At the Movies!
The movie theater has recently been the staging ground for the storied DC vs. Marvel feud as superheros now rule the roost in Hollywood. Will the anime world, and magical girls in particular, get a small taste of that sort of experience as two very prominent magical girl franchises go head-to-head on October 26th, as indicated here? Darker Marvel-esque Puella Magi will compete directly with the more classic DC-style Magical Girls of Pretty Cure. Which movie do people here think will do the best, both commercially and critically? And do you think that the two movies will feel a commercial pinch due to competing with each other on the very same day? Posting here so that neither property faces a home field disadvantage.
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2013-09-27, 01:51 | Link #2 |
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Erm...while it's an interesting thought, I'm not sure if this thread belongs in this section...
Personally, I think Madoka has an advantage due to the brand which is a lot more powerful than PreCure IMO, though the fact that PreCure has huge kids appeal will likely help.
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2013-09-27, 02:25 | Link #3 |
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You know what I cannot understand is why TOEI doesn't negotiate with Cartoon Network in order to release a Power Puff Girls meets Pretty Cure crossover?
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2013-09-27, 20:47 | Link #4 |
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Heh, nice little comic book movie reference there
Pretty Cure is a huge franchise. I haven't really followed it, but isn't it like the Pokemon of magical girls where they release a movie every year with a new team of girls? haha. I think Madoka Magica is kind of the underdog, but it wouldn't surprise me if it edged out Pretty Cure. |
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Since Nanoha came out, magical girls have struck me as being very much a fusion of superhero and moe. An awful lot of titular magical girl/dark magical girl combos are basically Superman and Batman as teenage/pre-teen girls.
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So if glorified recap movies can pull that off, what will a movie that's entirely new content be able to do?
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2013-09-27, 21:29 | Link #6 |
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Let me just state that I do not want this to be the start of a trend of an endless slew of "Franchise X vs. Franchise Y" threads. I understand the reason in this case is the fact that the two movies happen to be launching on the same day, and I'll tentatively allow it, but I am completely opposed to franchise or character battle threads.
Other than that, I think the two movies are generally targeting different audiences with completely different styles of stories. There may be a small amount of overlap, but I don't think either of these are really competing for a general mainstream audience. They're basically there for people who are already fans one way or another, so if you're a fan of both franchises, you'll probably see both movies.
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1. The main market they are aiming, as in hardcore otaku, would gobble up almost everything with the Madoka label on it 2. A lot of people did not watch the TV series before they watched the films. The series was aired on a late-night slot that has generally low viewership, but the series' explosion in popularity among otaku caused it to spread to the mainstream audience.
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2013-09-27, 23:10 | Link #8 |
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I don't know if it'll be a lot higher, but I do think it'll be higher.
I'm sure there are some people who watched the TV series, and are eager to see actual new Madoka Magica content, but aren't going to go to the movie theaters to watch a recap movie.
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Not being familar with PreCure, of these the only one I'm sure to watch is the new Madoka movie. Particularly considering the focus on Homu Homu.
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As per the Batman comment, Quite an apt metaphor, considering I have heard reviewers describe Madoka as having themes present in the Dark Knight- particularly the idea of dying a hero or living long enough to become a villian. |
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http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...-1-billion-yen That said, Precure is a yearly franchise with new characters every year, and Dokidoki seems to be one of the weaker entries in the series. It wouldn't be much of a surprise if the Madoka movie does better, but I'd assume that the new Precure movie will still do better. Quote:
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Sailor Moon predates Nanoha.
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I specifically wrote "Since Nanoha came out, magical girls have struck me as being very much a fusion of superhero and moe." The key word there is "me". I'm just sharing my personal perception of things. I didn't find the Sailor Moon anime as superhero-esque or as moe as I did Nanoha. Yes, combat was flashier in Sailor Moon than it was in many of the magical girl shows that predate it, but the combat was almost exclusively long range, and often included things like tiaras and scepters. It felt more fantasy-esque, than superhero-esque, imo. It tended to lack that "up close and personal" feeling that you had with a lot of the fights that Nanoha ended up in, and that "up close and personal" feeling is also there for most superhero fights.
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Granted, that's only from BandaiNamco, but it sounds like a stretch that their part is financially less than 1/5th. But uh, does anyone have numbers for these franchises as a whole, or at least numbers from multiple companies? Last edited by Shyni; 2013-10-10 at 13:11. |
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1 Soreike! Anpanman 2 Pokémon 3 Mickey Mouse 4 Hello Kitty 5 One Piece 6 Precure franchise 7 Rilakkuma 8 Winnie the Pooh 9 Super Mario Brothers 10 Snoopy (Peanuts) 11 Mobile Suit Gundam franchise 12 Kamen Rider OOO 13 Kaizoku Sentai Gokaiger 14 Minnie Mouse 15 Thomas [the Tank Engine] & Friends 16 Miffy 17 Tamagotchi! 18 Duffy 19 Cars 20 Kamen Rider Fourze I'm pointing out that everything you brought up about Nanoha ("superhero and moe") is applicable to Sailor Moon as well. Heck, they can be applied to Precure too for that matter.
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Nanoha actually starts with the old formula of "magical girl" anime, with a focus on a single character that received her magical powers from a mascot. It only switches to the more recent formula set by "sailor moon" later.
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There are these paragraphs on page 2 that mentions numbers in the billions, but it doesn't seem to be about any franchise in particular: Quote:
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Sentai = superhero team. Heck, one of the ancestors of the modern Super Sentai shows is Spiderman!
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I could argue that sentai have distinctive characteristics that make them different from other superhero teams, but anyway that's the same as to say that the ancestor of "Sailor Moon" is "creamy mami", the fact that with "sailor moon" you have a team is already something distinctive and if Naoko Takeuchi took inspiration from "spiderman" instead of sentai tokusatsu you wouldn't have a team of magical girls and it wouldn't have been anything particularly innovative.
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