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Old 2011-11-25, 15:18   Link #1521
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AAaaand with the radical new changes, stay tuned for dual jungling. Health pot nerf's gonna hurt...Volibear looks boss.
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Old 2011-11-25, 15:47   Link #1522
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I've already experienced the horror of dual jungling with a Alistar and Blitzcrank duo.... Their ganking was OP..
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Old 2011-11-25, 17:19   Link #1523
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So the patch preview. Easy jungle + buffs , nerf minions & pot. Metagame changed. The game become easier & easier.
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Old 2011-11-25, 18:28   Link #1524
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So the patch preview. Easy jungle + buffs , nerf minions & pot. Metagame changed. The game become easier & easier.
Easier for junglers maybe, but unless you consider buying potions to be difficult I don't know how this makes laning easier when potions allowed players to avoid punishment for otherwise bad playing, also it applies to both teams so relative difficulty is the same .
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Old 2011-11-25, 23:16   Link #1525
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Easier to get into the jungle maybe, but from what I hear, counterjungling is gonna be like 10x more effective. Each camp (even small ones) now has a sigil on the main monster, who will be giving the majority of XP + buff/small healing of your health. Meaning all you have to do is to take the main monster, leaving the almost worthless minions behind.

Which is two-fold: not only do you deny the majority of xp and gold, but you also deny the now faster spawn timers.


BTW, in response to madred's bloodrazor on Udyr, MBR is currently the most INEFFICIENT item in the game (losing 10 AD is WTF... you've artificially increased the item price by 975g). I won't get it on anyone unless serious fed and I have more gold than I can spend.
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Old 2011-11-26, 01:25   Link #1526
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^ Thanks for that.
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unless you consider buying potions to be difficult I don't know how this makes laning easier when potions allowed players to avoid punishment for otherwise bad playing
IMO the HP pot nerf and minion dmg nerf counerbalance one another, if anything, now it should require more skill to harass effectively while keeping in mind the damage your enemy's piling up on you.
Jungle's huge, I think we'll really have to test it out before we come to conclusions.
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Old 2011-11-26, 07:15   Link #1527
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MBR is still good on WW.
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Old 2011-11-26, 11:18   Link #1528
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MBR is still good on WW.
And on-hit Teemo and Koggles. Most buy it for the on-hit effect anyway.
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Old 2011-11-26, 17:07   Link #1529
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Yeah forgot about them.
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Old 2011-11-27, 02:52   Link #1530
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I dunno, WW was one of my mains in season 1 (7-1 in ranked, loads of times in normal), and I only really built MBR on him because wriggles is wasted on him. And even then, I only build it if I already am tanky enough (usually something like spirit visage + frozen heart completed), and most games ended before I could finish it.

Most people I see build MBR on teemo after malady, wit's end, and frozen mallet. Thing is, most of the time the game ends before they even start MBR unless serious fed, as the above is like almost 7k in gold.

As for Kog, general consensus is to forgo MBR and instead just go Phantom Dancer, since PD has more synergy with IE. AD Kog is so much better than on-hit Kog, as Last Whisper has no wasted stats if they stack armor (not to mention they wont be defending your W as well), while Void Staff is out of the way for on-hit Kog if the opponent starts stacking MR.
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Old 2011-11-28, 00:55   Link #1531
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Sadness about the Sivir change for Ricochet though...she's was already starved for mana if played as an aggressive harasser.
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Old 2011-11-28, 04:12   Link #1532
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I think the ricochet change was a fair trade off though, she lost constant AoE to gain (what I'm assuming) some viability.
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Old 2011-11-28, 04:24   Link #1533
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Range buff would have made her seriously OP if Ricochet was left the same...
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Old 2011-11-28, 23:52   Link #1534
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Champion rotation this week is complete shit for anyone who plays ranked games.

Have fun having to ban morgana , fizz , singed , kassadin , talon .

New patch notes are ok i guess , not too sad about it. Jarvan buff : D time to get my jaRman on !

Free champion rotation

Volibear patch notes

Haven't really read into this thread but for those who are real indepth with league heres IEM Kiev final bracket list . Round 2 CLG vs TSM alreadyyyy.
[this is going to be a good tournament]
Personally think EPIK got a free ride to Round 3 ^.^
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Old 2011-11-29, 01:27   Link #1535
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Baron Nashor will now push wards away if you try to place one too close
LAWL.
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Shunpo now always moves Katarina behind the target regardless if Killer Instincts is active
Was waiting for this, wasting KI just to bail cost a lot of time this last week.
Lots of fixing this time around, it's really great that riot pays attention to such things (I myself never even heard about the whole double kills and free kills surrounding Karthus, Kog, Yorick and Leona).
About the tourney, is it safe to assume the timezone's GMT+2?
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Old 2011-11-29, 04:29   Link #1536
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roflmao Curse vs CLG round 1 with Doublelift changing teams from Crs to CLG a week ago.

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Personally think EPIK got a free ride to Round 3 ^.^
They probably play Dignitas in round 2.
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Old 2011-11-29, 09:58   Link #1537
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Sivir tweaks...
not liking the damage and aspd drop, but everything else looks okay...Boomerang Blade got a much needed buff/nerf, making her a full AD champ instead of using some AP...Ricochet cost is gonna hurt in the long run, but at least it's 5 targets right off...so that'll be messy early on...On the Hunt got buff overall...this will be interesting.
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Old 2011-11-29, 20:47   Link #1538
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In Season One release, we have Xin Zhao
In Season Two release, we have Volibear.

Seriously, that bear has 5 ultimates in one, reverse Udyr.
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Old 2011-11-29, 20:50   Link #1539
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In Season One release, we have Xin Zhao
In Season Two release, we have Volibear.

Seriously, that bear has 5 ultimates in one, reverse Udyr.
It'll be scary once people figure out how to play him properly...
Until then, I can just sit back and lol at the people failing him in the jungle, and feeding me when they gank (this happened my last game, silly bear thought he could take Brand).
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Old 2011-11-29, 23:03   Link #1540
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Volibear has the potential to be one of the scariest champions once he's figured out... Certainly has that with all these combination of abilities..
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