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View Poll Results: Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha The MOVIE 1st - rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 61 | 43.88% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 42 | 30.22% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 12 | 8.63% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 17 | 12.23% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 2 | 1.44% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 0.72% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 1 | 0.72% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 3 | 2.16% | |
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2010-12-06, 23:23 | Link #2041 | ||
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Oh belive me, i know of what you talk, but for now, i have a more optimistic view(still quite sceptic but a lot less grim than a couple of days ago), i'm ready to hope the worst but the guy demonstrates to be able to overcome expectatives(and it's started getting fame for being kind of a troll with the fanbase xDU) so at least i'm able now to give him the benefit of the doubt.
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2010-12-06, 23:30 | Link #2042 |
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The tactics were fairly simple, but ingenious. Nanoha knew Fate had more training and a larger mana pool to pull from, so how could she have won? Simple; she developed a spell that would take all the spent mana in the air and fired in one large shot.
So the goal was to get Fate to use up as much magic as possible to both make Fate unable to fully block it, and to make the SLB as powerful as possible. Since the spell relies mostly on spent mana, Nanoha could mostly exhaust her pool trying to get Fate to use up hers. The sheer size made dodging impossible. |
2010-12-07, 00:28 | Link #2043 | |
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That wasn't a shield-like barrier, but a spacial barrier. It's not used for tanking, but for separating, kinda like a seal. Piercing such a barrier isn't that hard either- what's impressive is that Nanoha completely destroyed it instead of just destroying the part her SLB touched (like she did against Vita's barrier in ep 2). this has no relationship to 'tanking' whatsoever. |
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2010-12-07, 14:58 | Link #2045 | |
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Join Date: Jun 2009
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I can't promise you'll accept the explanation, but it's an explanation nontheless.
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2010-12-07, 15:16 | Link #2046 | |
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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But in the movie itself, that's not really the case. She blocked phalanx with a single shield while being binded by both hands and wasn't out of breath in the slightest. Fate actually disarmed one of her hands from the bind to block Nanoha's Divine Buster, and it took a heck of a lot more from her in order to block it. They're two different continuities. Movie manga did it best. Edit: Just read the chapter. So RH blocked all the damage for Nanoha without her having to control the shield herself, eh? Amusing.
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2010-12-07, 16:04 | Link #2052 | |
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Nanoha didn't even bother with a Divine Buster in the movie manga iteration. Straight into Bind=>SLB This interpretation works too as far as I'm concerned. So far the movie manga and tv anime sequences both make more sense to me than the movie version. |
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2010-12-07, 16:09 | Link #2053 | ||
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The one thing the movie had over the series which made more sense...Is that Nanoha binded Fate before firing Divine Buster, so she couldn't dodge it. In the anime, she could of dodged it but chose to tank it instead. Then again, she probably wasn't expecting Nanoha to still have so much strength left after being hit with her strongest attack.
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2010-12-07, 16:20 | Link #2054 | |
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Every time we're shown a set of binds, they are unraveled fairly quickly. The point is that they buy just enough time to charge up and land a barrage class attack (which don't take too long to charge but just enough that they're quite easily evaded or even interrupted otherwise) The TV anime sequence had Nanoha interrupt Fate's attack mid-sequence when Fate was tired from the initial barrage and was building up for the final SPARK with Divine Buster. This gave a reason why Fate didn't have enough time to do anything but guard since she had barely finished her attack. It also provides a reason why Nanoha didn't have too much damage besides the electrical sparking since Fate never finished the attack. Finally surprise Bind=>SLB. But movie Fate makes no further attempt to break her binds after eating the Divine Buster. There's no real defense against something of SLB's magnitude but she still tries to block it with an elaborate multi-shield affair. Even if she might not have made it in time, a 10% chance (breaking binds... it should be more likely than that but I'm making a point) is still better than 0% (trying to block Starlight Breaker). Nanoha has demonstrated breaking a bind while under attack. There's no reason Fate couldn't have done the same except for Enforced Plot Hijinks. |
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2010-12-07, 19:15 | Link #2055 | ||
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Well, I didn't like how either of them portrayed it.
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2010-12-07, 19:36 | Link #2056 | |||
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The beam misses of course because that short amount of time to charge up is enough for Vita to respond but only barely. Quote:
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That's why I prefer the way Fate was only hit because her attack was squashed by Nanoha's, leaving no time for Fate to properly escape (speed requires drawing magic away from protection, spelled out in the latest chapter but implied in the past). Last edited by ChronoReverse; 2010-12-07 at 19:57. |
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2010-12-07, 20:00 | Link #2057 | ||||
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In terms of execution, the movie manga was definitely best. The movie really upped the cool factor because of the nice animation and aerial battles, though.
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2010-12-07, 20:36 | Link #2059 | |||
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In the TV anime, it was only a short but vicious clash. Considering Nanoha's specialization is heavy shielding, her tanking half of Fate's special attack wasn't unconvincing to me. Quote:
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2010-12-07, 20:49 | Link #2060 | ||
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Albeit, has been years since I've watched the original. I remember character personalities like it was yesterday, but I'm a bit hazy on that final battle.
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