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View Poll Results: Who is the ultimate shinobi? | |||
The 1st | 24 | 5.99% | |
The 2nd | 3 | 0.75% | |
Sarutobi | 117 | 29.18% | |
The 4th | 119 | 29.68% | |
Jiraiya | 27 | 6.73% | |
Orochimaru | 10 | 2.49% | |
Tsunde | 4 | 1.00% | |
Itachi | 73 | 18.20% | |
Other...[Please State Who] | 24 | 5.99% | |
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2011-12-19, 21:38 | Link #441 | ||
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2011-12-20, 09:49 | Link #443 | |
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Most people are considering strongest to mean simply that, no deeper meaning required, end of story. I don't really think it really needs to be given more depth than that; whichever shinobi's overall strength (across every category) is the greatest would be considered the best. With the way the series has changed over time, the way the story is now that is probably the most concrete way of determining the strongest. The series has lost any need to dig any deeper than that. That said, if we were to determine strength another way, by looking at the Naruto world as one where--as you said--shinobi aren't more akin to wizards than anything else, then I perfectly agree with you. At the very least, I'd be hard pressed to find somebody more fitting than Orochimaru (can't think of any off the top of my head, at any rate). It's still early in the morning and I'm still pretty tired so I can't really elaborate more at the moment, but starting a discussion about this would be nice (it helps that the other arguments are getting rather circular, and a topic change would be nice). |
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2011-12-20, 09:58 | Link #445 | |
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Furthermore samheda sucked Kasimes's chakra before he fought gai. Tail beast bomb would kill gai. Bee practically killed Sasuke.... You are underating him. Do you think ms Sasuke <gai? Don't let your fan boy make decisions, be objective...... You are showing the same trend that you showed with your argument about pain and Sm Naruto.
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2011-12-20, 15:22 | Link #448 | ||
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ms sasuke didn't use susanoo at that time vs bee so yes, that sasuke would be less than gai. with susanoo, sasuke's better than both bee and gai and kisame for that matter Quote:
edit: also jiraiya was quite adept at infiltration and interrogation. so that would probably be my top 5 Last edited by james0246; 2011-12-23 at 18:41. Reason: double post... |
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2011-12-20, 18:02 | Link #449 | |
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Regardless if he used susanoo or what ever, he was nearly stabed to death and had his chest blown off. By him not using his skills shows his ineptitude at battle. Kudos to Gai for understanding that playing around with kisame is not sound tactics. However Kisame was not at 100%
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also, sameheda is like a double edged sword. kisame knew that going into battle. it's his weapon and it's all part of his overall power as far as I'm concerned. |
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2011-12-23, 00:05 | Link #451 |
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We've seen Edo Madara, Tobi, the 5 current Kages, all previous Hokages, some other previous Kages, the Sannin, Akatsuki and much more...yet I still say that Sarutobi (the 3rd Hokage) still takes the spot of strongest ninja in his prime.
He was already regarded as the best ninja in his prime but one thing to note is that the guy took on Orochimaru and two Edo-Hokages (one of them the guy who beat Madara before) and he was over 80 years old. Do you have any idea what it is to fight 3 ninjas of the highest rank at such an advanced age? MY granpa is pretty fit for an 84 year old but he still gets very bloody tired if he walks at a faster pace for a bit. And guess what he beat two and took the third one's arms. I swear, if Sarutobi could have been Edo'ed, he would slaughter more people than Madara and most of the other Edos put together. |
2011-12-24, 17:28 | Link #455 |
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the 4th was on par with A. do you really think A or minato are stronger than:
Edo Madara w rinnegan Rikudo Sennin Tobi w rinnegan also, Sasuke EMS and Naruto KM are better than them. itachi and possibly kabuto w orochi cells as well edit: I'd put Minato above A but they are close for sure |
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