Ever17 -The Out of Infinity-

[Eab1990]

Originally Posted by GundamAce

Ah, speaking of patches, does anyone know if there's a patch for typo corrections? Out of all the games I've played, this is the one game where all the typos really bothered me, so I was wondering if such a patch existed.

I know of a certain someone who was interested in creating such a patch.

Spoiler:

Actually, meisnewbie, the QC'er for Sharin no Kuni (and probably other games) mentioned he would look into making one. Don't quote me on it, though.

[SageGaiGar]

Well, mission success with You. Quite the ironic route to end with in a way. So, I'll be finishing up Coco's later on. F3 is my friend

[Kaos!]

Originally Posted by SageGaiGar

Well, mission success with You. Quite the ironic route to end with in a way. So, I'll be finishing up Coco's later on. F3 is my friend

Take it slow with Coco. There will be one hell of atomic bombs waiting.

[SageGaiGar]

Originally Posted by Kaos!

Take it slow with Coco. There will be one hell of atomic bombs waiting.

Heh, I can only F3 the stuff I've already seen. I am going at my usual slowpoke pace of listening to *every* new piece of dialogue. Damn You's took a long time.

[dsp2003]

GundamAce,

Spoiler:

fixing the typos is not enough. While translating this piece into Russian, I've found several programming errors in the script (primarily too long strings, misplaced text, forgotten voice data, etc. etc.), so it's not a trivial task, you know. I had contact with meisnewbie not so long time ago, but I'm unsure if he was happy with my "chop data, edit in HEX, merge data" solution or not. >.>

[GundamAce]

Originally Posted by dsp2003

GundamAce,

Spoiler:

fixing the typos is not enough. While translating this piece into Russian, I've found several programming errors in the script (primarily too long strings, misplaced text, forgotten voice data, etc. etc.), so it's not a trivial task, you know. I had contact with meisnewbie not so long time ago, but I'm unsure if he was happy with my "chop data, edit in HEX, merge data" solution or not. >.>

It's alright, I really don't need a patch like that. I was merely curious whether or not it existed or not, and I can get along just fine with the typos. Thanks for all your help, though.

And SageGaiGar, well, just prepare yourself in Coco's route. You're in for one hell of a shockfest. There were many moments in this route where I literally had to stop playing for 20 seconds to recover from the shock, and the route was so shocking I finished it all in one sitting (started at 7:00 P.M., didn't stop playing until it was over at 5:30 A.M.)

[GundamAce]

Ah, I can't install the patch because apparently I don't the program necessary to open it. dsp2003, what program do I need to open the patch?

[grylsyjaeger]

Originally Posted by SageGaiGar

Heh, I can only F3 the stuff I've already seen. I am going at my usual slowpoke pace of listening to *every* new piece of dialogue. Damn You's took a long time.

Ever17 was a VN where I read everything on each playthrough even if it was shared over several routes.

It's always fun to go back over a route and notice certain things that had been said but never explained that don't make sense until you've finished it once already.

[GundamAce]

Originally Posted by fallschirmjager

Ever17 was a VN where I read everything on each playthrough even if it was shared over several routes.

It's always fun to go back over a route and notice certain things that had been said but never explained that don't make sense until you've finished it once already.

I remember experiencing a very painful version of that when I read a certain part of the game for a second time.

Spoiler for Ever 17 spoilers:

When I played the game for the first time, after completing Tsugumi's route, I was playing the Kid's route when I got to the scene where Tsugumi was just standing in front of the Qualle, with apparently "no intention of riding it. She just stood there."

When I first that, I didn't think much of it, since I thought "Well, ok, Tsugumi used the Qualle to scout out IBF on her route, maybe she's about to do the same here." Then by the time I beat the game, I'd forgotten that scene.

Then afterwards, I played the game to check up some info, and then I got to that scene again. This time, upon reading it, I felt my heart shatter into a million pieces as I realized exactly why Tsugumi was standing there. It was a great example of a scene that didn't seem like much on your first playthrough, but became something really touching and sad after beating the game.

[dsp2003]

GundamAce, if you're talking about the Voice patch, then first you'll have to install BitTorrent client (uTorrent will do the thing) and download it (1 Gigabyte). The patch is made with NSIS, it's an self-installer.

[GundamAce]

Alright, it's downloading now. Thanks!

EDIT: Finished installing. Wow, the voices sound so much clearer now! I had no idea the original PC quality was so low until I installed the patch. Thanks for making the patch, dsp2003!

[Eab1990]

Originally Posted by GundamAce

I remember experiencing a very painful version of that when I read a certain part of the game for a second time.

Spoiler for Ever 17 spoilers:

When I played the game for the first time, after completing Tsugumi's route, I was playing the Kid's route when I got to the scene where Tsugumi was just standing in front of the Qualle, with apparently "no intention of riding it. She just stood there."

When I first that, I didn't think much of it, since I thought "Well, ok, Tsugumi used the Qualle to scout out IBF on her route, maybe she's about to do the same here." Then by the time I beat the game, I'd forgotten that scene.

Then afterwards, I played the game to check up some info, and then I got to that scene again. This time, upon reading it, I felt my heart shatter into a million pieces as I realized exactly why Tsugumi was standing there. It was a great example of a scene that didn't seem like much on your first playthrough, but became something really touching and sad after beating the game.

Aw, damn, I forgot about that.

Spoiler:

Although even in Coco's route, there's a bunch of those moments where knowing everything really makes you feel for what suffering the characters are going through.

For Tsugumi, yeah, you remember her interactions with Hokuto, but not quite with Takeshi. That Qualle moment... Ouch.

My bias with Coco aside, she actually has a lot of moments in her own route where she tries her hardest to hide her pain. For example, from her profile in the instruction manual, she claims to hate the cold and solitude and loneliness (I'm pretty sure the loneliness part is also a line in her image song and a page in one of the manga). All of which are things she experiences while in IBF for 17 years, and fully aware of it too. You could almost say her ESP was a curse in that aspect... Which makes scenes like the one where you meet her outside of the Ruins really quite painful to rewatch.

There's also the more obvious one (I thought) of how the entire Mermaid Tears story was a direct reference to Coco herself. And Takeshi too, somewhat... Actually, you could argue this for most of the Cure-infected cast, but I felt that the mermaid in particular was referencing Coco.

There are probably others, but I can't think of any more right now. Of course, this is just another reason why the game is worth playing twice over, even if you won't get the same feeling of surprise from beating it again.

On another note...

Interesting, someone added the two manga to MAL. I wonder if my advertising these past few months helped~

Then again, I could've just added it in myself, if I weren't so lazy. >_>

http://myanimelist.net/manga/16190/E...ogy_Collection
http://myanimelist.net/manga/16193/E...the_deep_place

In any case, I can finally add Coco to my list of favorite characters, so yay.

[GundamAce]

The manga pages have actually been there for at least a month, since I checked it after I finished the game. Were they not there for a while or something? Either way, I already marked myself up as "Completed", though I guess now I too can add the Ever17 characters into my favorites.

Spoiler for Ever17:

Oh right, forgot about the whole Mermaid Tears scene. I agree with you about the Coco part, but at the same time I think it's somewhat of an allegory for the relationship between Takeshi and Tsugumi, in a way.

[Eab1990]

Originally Posted by GundamAce

The manga pages have actually been there for at least a month, since I checked it after I finished the game. Were they not there for a while or something? Either way, I already marked myself up as "Completed", though I guess now I too can add the Ever17 characters into my favorites.

Spoiler for Ever17:

Oh right, forgot about the whole Mermaid Tears scene. I agree with you about the Coco part, but at the same time I think it's somewhat of an allegory for the relationship between Takeshi and Tsugumi, in a way.

It seems to be the case that it was only up there since late this September, since that was when the first person added it to their list. And apparently, I posted the manga here on the 13th, so just maybe...

And I need to rewatch the scene in question again sometime, since my memory is blanking on stuff I should've remembered not too long ago.

[GundamAce]

Originally Posted by Eab1990

It seems to be the case that it was only up there since late this September, since that was when the first person added it to their list. And apparently, I posted the manga here on the 13th, so just maybe...

And I need to rewatch the scene in question again sometime, since my memory is blanking on stuff I should've remembered not too long ago.

Yeah, that must be the case. How did you find the manga and Drama CDs anyway? Did you download it off some torrent or something?

[Eab1990]

Originally Posted by GundamAce

Yeah, that must be the case. How did you find the manga and Drama CDs anyway? Did you download it off some torrent or something?

The manga was on /rs/. I salvaged the Rapidshare link a while back, and when that link died, I reuploaded it. Quite lucky on my part.

The drama CDs... Actually, I first found out about it on here. When I found out there were more, I posted about it on GameFAQs, and Then00bavenger (the translator of the Sunflower devs, FYI) pointed them out on Nico Nico Douga. Then I used Nicosound to lift the audio.

I think I remember seeing the CDs somewhere else on some torrent, but as I was just starting out visual novels at the time (and didn't even know what a drama CD was either), I think I deleted them. I thought said torrent was the Hirameki Complete Collection, but it doesn't seem to be in that one.

[GundamAce]

Wow, that was pretty smart with what you did with Nicosound and the manga. It's a good thing you posted about it, otherwise we may not have been able to enjoy the manga right now.

[GundamAce]

Oh, Eab, I'm just curious, but when did you beat this game anyway? It sounds like you've been a fan of Ever17 for a while.

[Eab1990]

Originally Posted by GundamAce

Wow, that was pretty smart with what you did with Nicosound and the manga. It's a good thing you posted about it, otherwise we may not have been able to enjoy the manga right now.

Why, thank you.

I've used the same audio lifting technique with YouTube, if only to make use of the limited space I have on my flash drive, so I can listen to as much songs as I can on my cell phone. I don't listen to nearly enough music to bother to get an iPod/Phone/Touch/whatever it is these days, you see. >_>

Originally Posted by GundamAce

Oh, Eab, I'm just curious, but when did you beat this game anyway? It sounds like you've been a fan of Ever17 for a while.

I bought the game in July 2007 at Otakon (just before Hirameki went bankrupt, so I was lucky and got it cheap), and finished it in September (I didn't start until August, though). I'm not exactly a veteran, so to speak, but yeah, I've had the game for a while.

[GundamAce]

Where did you hear about the game anyway? I remember finding out about it when I was randomly looking on Wikipedia, and it sounded interesting, so I looked into it for a few months before I bought it (fortunately, I forgot most spoilers I might have learned, though I still remembered one or two when playing it.)

EDIT: BTW, I've just noticed this board has hit 1,000 posts!