Lucky Star (Generic Discussion thread)

[krln99]

Has anyone noticed Kagami's motherly nature? Not just in relation to her younger sister, but to Konata as well. I would argue that Kagami is probably the closest thing Kona has to a mom. Behind her combative nature, she really does love her friends (especially Konata!)

[Risaa]

Originally Posted by Vexx

I used to help catalog Animaniacs references. People loved the show though they completely missed all the vaudeville, Marx Brothers, Bob Hope, 80s references... why? Because it was still funny.

So true. I used to watch it when I was too young to understand ANY of the references... yet it was my favorite cartoon. In the past couple of weeks I've been watching bits and pieces of Animaniacs on YouTube and have found that it's a completely different experience for me now that I'm older (I actually get references now, though there's no way I'm catching all of them).... and I love the 'toon even more now.

Originally Posted by krln99

Has anyone noticed Kagami's motherly nature? Not just in relation to her younger sister, but to Konata as well. I would argue that Kagami is probably the closest thing Kona has to a mom. Behind her combative nature, she really does love her friends (especially Konata!)

Yes, definitely... Kagami does love her friends even if she'll never admit it. Randomness: at this point I can't say that I think Kona misses having a mom though (as she seems so content with life... except during baseball season).

[aorta]

Originally Posted by aohige

Hell, the first 3 seconds of the first episode was a joke referencing to the 80s Fujiko Fujio's Kaibutsu-kun anime intro (at which point I spewed my coffee out, even before the insane dancing OP ), and not a single person in AS forums seems to notice or mention it.

http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...postcount=1589

Too bad Kagami doesn't say "Urusai!"

[Telliamed]

Originally Posted by aohige

Are we talking mostly english speakers blogs and such?
This show has so much in-jokes that non-Japanese would have very hard time even "getting" it.

For that matter, how many Japanese viewers even catch all the references?

Originally Posted by aorta

Too bad Kagami doesn't say "Urusai!"

I think she's said it a few times. Or do you just mean in the intro?

[aohige]

Originally Posted by Telliamed

For that matter, how many Japanese viewers even catch all the references?

Well, stuff like the Top o Nerae! Gunbuster references, and the Star cruiser Yamato joke in ep4 are probably not gonna go well with everyone, especially the younger crowd.
And the heavily otaku-oriented jokes like the Kanon joke, and the Tsuyo-kiss kani fan are gonna be lost to most people in general.

However, aforementioned Kaibutsu-kun intro is too much of a "national icon" (like all the other Fujiko Fujio kids cartoon like Paaman, Ninja Hattori-kun, Doraemon, Kiteretsu, etc), that it's hard to believe any Japanese over the age of 20 to not be familiar with it.
The Crayon Shin-chan impersonation goes in this category as well.

Imagine an american who's never heard of the Loony Toons and Simpsons theme song. It's very unlikely.

Also, it's not just the parodies and references... Talk about common Japanese every-day life consists most of the show, very much like Azumanga daioh. While both LS and Azumanga are fairly popular among american fans for many reasons, a lot of the humor and atmosphere are lost to those not familiar with it.
I'm just mentioning these as contributing factor to certain reviews that aren't showing much interest in the show.

[Mecha_Trueno]

does anyone know what the figurines in konata's room are?

btw...

Well, stuff like the Top o Nerae! Gunbuster references, and the Star cruiser Yamato joke in ep4 are probably not gonna go well with everyone, especially the younger crowd.

when was there a gunbuster reference? me didnt notice...

[aorta]

Originally Posted by Telliamed

I think she's said it a few times. Or do you just mean in the intro?

In the intro. In the Kaibutsu-kun intro, after the banter, "Urasai!" is yelled out and then the theme song starts.

[aorta]

Originally Posted by Mecha_Trueno

does anyone know what the figurines in konata's room are?

It's been speculated that the one with the club is Kooh from the game PangYa.

http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...postcount=1833

[aohige]

Originally Posted by Mecha_Trueno

when was there a gunbuster reference? me didnt notice...

The "dandandandandan" drum sound that plays every time the Comptique festival is mentioned is the music lifted from Gunbuster's entrance in episode 4 of Top of Nerae!, and they also play the OP "Fly high!" of the show when Konata imagines the dentist with cute nurse and Exelion in the background.

[JediNight]

Anyone whose interested, if it hasn't been mentioned yet:
http://lantis-net.com/rakisuta/backnumber/radio.html

Link to the Lucky Channel radio show. I couldn't get it working atm, but it may just be a problem on my end. Anyone else able to play them, or do they block anyone outside of Japan maybe?

[Risaa]

Originally Posted by JediNight

Anyone whose interested, if it hasn't been mentioned yet:
http://lantis-net.com/rakisuta/backnumber/radio.html

Link to the Lucky Channel radio show. I couldn't get it working atm, but it may just be a problem on my end. Anyone else able to play them, or do they block anyone outside of Japan maybe?

I doubt they block anyone outside of Japan... I mean, how many people overseas are even aware they have radio shows for popular anime? And how many people who are interested in the shows are able to understand what they're saying?

(Actually, I don't understand much, but I've been downloading segments of the Utawarerumono radio show... good stuff, good stuff. "MOU!!" )

[Vexx]

They're not blocking.. but they're using some damned DRM crap on the WMP side that breaks it because their license server isn't answering before it times out.

Perhaps the Real side works better. Stupid DRM crap ... makes no sense to DRM a radio show for the sake of Shoggoth.

[aorta]

the realplayer version works fine for me (in the US)

[Risaa]

Started watching WinD's subs... IMO, they're well worth the wait. I like the style of the subs and the color (they're nice and easy to read), and I really like that they tuck translation notes neatly at the top without being over-excessive about them. They don't grab too much attention or distract from the actual episode itself... I also like that they're not translating words that don't *really* translate, like "gochisousama", for example. It's obvious they do a ton of research, too.

My only real complaint is that the text is kind of floating far up from the bottom... it's not a problem during Lucky Channel, but it is during parts such as this one. I know no matter what the sub group, with the way L*S is, subtitles are inevitably going to cover some key parts, but it feels like WinD's is a bit *too* high.

I'm also a little confused at the inconsistency of the translations when Kona is mumbling while playing her game during Golden Week... if I remember right, one group didn't translate it at all, another group mentioned her obtaining a loincloth, and now... there's no mention of her obtaining anything in WinD's version (I was really looking for the loincloth bit ).

What's got me squirming with delight right now is their note in episode 2 about Tsukasa's grade....

I've also been keeping track of the number of times we see each of the girls with something in their mouths... will get back to that once I'm caught up, keke.

[aorta]

One of the problems with any subs on the bottom is that they end up covering Konata's head in some shots.

[Ronin Aquila]

This week`s Lucky Channel was just fucking scary...

Spoiler:

Akira threw an ASHTRAY full of cigarettes at her assitant... no bloody wonder she has such a coarse voice!!

[Michael Hopcroft]

Originally Posted by Ronin Aquila

This week`s Lucky Channel was just fucking scary...

Spoiler:

Akira threw an ASHTRAY full of cigarettes at her assitant... no bloody wonder she has such a coarse voice!!

Spoiler:

Is Akira legally old enough to smoke, not that that particularly matters?

what next -- jokes about alcohol binges, paparazzi and sex scandals in the idoru community? Although I would not want to e a paparazzi trying to get dirt on Akira-chan -- not if I happened to enjoy my blood remaining in my body where it belongs....

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Originally Posted by Ronin Aquila

This week`s Lucky Channel was just fucking scary...

Spoiler:

Akira threw an ASHTRAY full of cigarettes at her assitant... no bloody wonder she has such a coarse voice!!

Actually, her extreme "habit" was hinted at within the first three LCs, though I am not sure which one...

[Ronin Aquila]

Though really loved the adorable sequence in the actual episode where:

Spoiler:

Tsukasa imagines herself as the big sister, whom imaginary Kagami runs after calling out affectionately `Oneechan!! Help me do my homework.` Simply adorable.

[Vexx]

Originally Posted by Risaa

Started watching WinD's subs... IMO, they're well worth the wait. I like the style of the subs and the color (they're nice and easy to read), and I really like that they tuck translation notes neatly at the top without being over-excessive about them. They don't grab too much attention or distract from the actual episode itself... I also like that they're not translating words that don't *really* translate, like "gochisousama", for example. It's obvious they do a ton of research, too.

My only real complaint is that the text is kind of floating far up from the bottom... it's not a problem during Lucky Channel, but it is during parts such as this one. I know no matter what the sub group, with the way L*S is, subtitles are inevitably going to cover some key parts, but it feels like WinD's is a bit *too* high.

I'm also a little confused at the inconsistency of the translations when Kona is mumbling while playing her game during Golden Week... if I remember right, one group didn't translate it at all, another group mentioned her obtaining a loincloth, and now... there's no mention of her obtaining anything in WinD's version (I was really looking for the loincloth bit ).

What's got me squirming with delight right now is their note in episode 2 about Tsukasa's grade....

I've also been keeping track of the number of times we see each of the girls with something in their mouths... will get back to that once I'm caught up, keke.

Kagami definitely spends a lot of time with something in her mouth (pocky, pens, chopstix, etc). I suppose one could psycho-analyze that...

The variance in translations is problematic to me. Usually I'm mulling over the *shading* of a phrase or the choice of an idiomatic bit or a slang term ... not wholesale differences in dialog. I end up listening to a sequence repeatedly and then consulting the manga to see what was originally intended. I'll grant translating the show isn't easy at all (particularly the Konata mumbles) but the often total lack of consensus leaves me wondering if I'm watching Lucky*Star humor or "fansub team" humor at times.