Shakugan no SHANA Anime Season 1 Discussion

[Shiroth]

Originally Posted by Plant42

It's the bonus episode called "Shakugan no SHANADAN Ep1"

Waaaa, thats something i need to see - and judging from the screenshots, its looks like a pretty good watch.

[TheFluff]

Looks like the new OP won't appear in ep 16 either.

[justsomeguy]

I don't suppose they're planning to use a new OP only for the last few episodes like Gundam Wing?

[FinalDragoon06]

Originally Posted by TheFluff

Looks like the new OP won't appear in ep 16 either.

I don't know about you, but I'm fine with the current one at the moment (although that could very well change when I hear the new one )

[Shinji103]

Well, if they're ever going to show the new OP, it'll be next episode, since

Spoiler:

the flashback arc is over now.

I like the current Shana OP as it is too, although, like FinalD, that opinion could change when I actually see the new OP.

[wrex_japan]

Episode 16 title: Enpatsu Shakugan no Uchite

It was an awesome conclusion to the flashback/birth of Shana as Flame Haze arc... or the "why Shana likes melon bread so much" arc. ^_^

This episode was full of battles, flashback revelations, and tender scenes. I'm sorry to see it end.

I have pics and spoilers here.

[blitz1/2]

I don't get how you guys get the screenshots when the RAW is not even there yet.

[tun]

Originally Posted by blitz1/2

I don't get how you guys get the screenshots when the RAW is not even there yet.

Eh, you're wrong about that. ^_^

And episode 16 was just amazing. This series just keeps climbing higher and higher on my all time favorites list.

[Kurogane_Shiroikaze]

Originally Posted by Plant42

It's the bonus episode called "Shakugan no SHANADAN Ep1"

OH SHI....

I WANT IT................ chibi shana kawaii yo chibi shana~~~

[Guido]

Omniscient's synopsis for episode 16.
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2006...n-no-shana-16/

Includes tender shots of toddler Shana!

[Srin Tuar]

I feel like im missing something.

The battles lacked suspense. Allthough the combatants looked much stronger than
the enemies Shana has fought in the present time, she had little trouble defeating
them....

I dunno, perhaps shana has gotten weaker since then....


Also, I really dont get the sense of who she was when she was alive.

Sure, its great that she loves wilhelmina and the skeleton... what about mommy
and daddy, childhood friends, brothers and sisters, etc... Was she always a ghost??

i dont get it.

[NoSanninWa]

Originally Posted by Srin Tuar

Sure, its great that she loves wilhelmina and the skeleton... what about mommy
and daddy, childhood friends, brothers and sisters, etc... Was she always a ghost??

She's not a ghost; she's an orphan. It was explained at the beginning of the arc that she was an orphan that they took in. A living orphan, not a torch. Hence there is no mommy or daddy -- only Wilhelmina and Alastor.

[zalas]

It's too bad they had to cram everything to get it to fit. What would be nice would be for the animators to create an OVA series describing the story of Mathilde, Wilhelmina and Merihim, since it seemed there was a lot of things being hinted but not explained.

Man, I'm starting to like the ED song a lot more, especially the melty chord progression for its chorus.

Spoiler for question for episode 3:

Does anyone know what Shana was shouting just before finishing off Merihim? It seems that the animators decided not to actually voice that but leave it up to interpretation.

[Kurogane_Shiroikaze]

Episode 16 Summary and Screenies

Originally Posted by zalas

Spoiler for question for episode 3:

Does anyone know what Shana was shouting just before finishing off Merihim? It seems that the animators decided not to actually voice that but leave it up to interpretation.

Spoiler:

I would say she's shouting his name, Shiro. In essence, he used to be her teacher in combat skills.At least, what I think she did shout, from normal production doctrines.

I watch too much animes already to catch all the cliches already :P.

Next episode, KOTOKO OP ONEGAI SHIMASU~~!!!

[zalas]

Originally Posted by Kurogane_Shiroikaze

Spoiler for episode 3:

I would say she's shouting his name, Shiro. In essence, he used to be her teacher in combat skills.At least, what I did she did shout, from normal production doctrines.

Spoiler for episode 3:

The thing is, though, it looked like she uttered around 4 syllables. Basically, she yells the first syllable, then snap her teeth together, goes through the second syllable and then closes partway before going to the third syllable and then closing all the way until she says the fourth syllable. I'm tempted to say "arigatou" but it doesn't quite fit :/

[Kurogane_Shiroikaze]

Originally Posted by zalas

Spoiler for episode 3:

The thing is, though, it looked like she uttered around 4 syllables. Basically, she yells the first syllable, then snap her teeth together, goes through the second syllable and then closes partway before going to the third syllable and then closing all the way until she says the fourth syllable. I'm tempted to say "arigatou" but it doesn't quite fit :/

Spoiler:

Hmm... maybe "Shiro.... nande da yo?. I would say that Merihim probably is pretty darn strong based on the fact that the previous Enpatsu needed to use Tenpa Jousai to defeat him (purely speculated). Shana, being a new Flame Haze, probably knows that she can't defeat him, so asks him why did she give her a chance .

[wrex_japan]

Originally Posted by zalas

It's too bad they had to cram everything to get it to fit. What would be nice would be for the animators to create an OVA series describing the story of Mathilde, Wilhelmina and Merihim, since it seemed there was a lot of things being hinted but not explained.

Man, I'm starting to like the ED song a lot more, especially the melty chord progression for its chorus.

Spoiler for question for episode 3:

Does anyone know what Shana was shouting just before finishing off Merihim? It seems that the animators decided not to actually voice that but leave it up to interpretation.

I don't know about an OVA, but they may animate more backstory involving Mathilde and Wirhelmina later. According to the guidebook I bought, it takes place in 16th century Rome. This particular arc was "episode 5" (I assume it's novel 5), and the other flashback arc takes place in "episode 10." It looks like they're taking about 3 to 4 TV episodes per arc.

Spoiler:

As for what Shana's shouting is up to speculation. I figured she was saying the usual cliched "Don't die" type of thing.

See my blog ^_~

[Srin Tuar]

Originally Posted by NoSanninWa

She's not a ghost; she's an orphan. It was explained at the beginning of the arc that she was an orphan that they took in. A living orphan, not a torch. Hence there is no mommy or daddy -- only Wilhelmina and Alastor.

Ah thx, missed that.

I was somehow assuming you had to die before becoming a flame-haze,

but now the part where shana said she was the same as the misutesu guy makes sense

suman!

---edit:
I rewatched that part and I think I see it now.
When he said they "picked her up on a whim" and that the "accident" was unfortunate,
and that she had nowhere to go makes more sense if she was not an orphan..


I had kindof assumed that she was killed and they picked her up as a ghost i guess....
Being able to fight with the skeleton shiro at that level as a fleshy human seems so unlikely...
Did you read the novel or why are you assuming she was an orphan?
I'd be interested to know what "fukou na dekigoto" they were referring to...

Maybe there was a car crash or something, and shana was too young to remember her
family?

[SeedFreedom]

alastor also said shana was the only flame haze that doesnt have hatred towards the gaze no tama. looks like shes the exception to a lot of rules

[Newprimus]

Ep 16 rocked. Incredibly. That piano rendition of the first op, combined with the whole scene in general, all of it was great. The intro to the 2nd ED works beautifully too.


AND I WANT SHAKUGAN NO SHANA-TAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!