2013-06-27, 18:49 | Link #5141 | |
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If you look at her fight with tatsuya, "night" was invoked instantly(I guess you can argue that she drew her CAD really quickly, but I think Tatsuya would notice). Unlike Miyuki's Cocytus, "night" doesnt feel like an innate magic. From what I remember, innate magics seem to have easily described effects with complicated mechanisms to create the effect."Night's" mechanics were explained (albeit the explanation was confusing) so it feels like "night" wasnt something that Maya was born with but was something that she designed. Since it wasn't an innate magic, to cast it without a CAD, she must have used flashcast. If you take into consideration that Maya can flashcast, it isnt unlikely that there are other members of the Yotsuba that can flashcast. Anyway.... What did you guys think why you realized Miyuki's Cocytus is a direct counter to Tatsuya's Regrowth? |
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2013-06-27, 19:00 | Link #5142 | ||
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there is high possibility maya is the only one that know Tatsuya MB. from the summary of web arc 6 we can say that Hayama knew about his Elemental Sight. Quote:
but everyone will acknowledge him as a very deadly weapon and will be a valuable asset for the Clan ( he is already a valuable asset for the country ) |
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2013-06-27, 21:42 | Link #5143 | ||
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However, the Yotsuba family definitely became more "hard" after the incident. All of the volunteers were probably from the kind-hearted portion of the family, and most of them died. The remaining part that didn't volunteer were most likely the cold, practical ones. Also, Maya who has been stripped of her emotions has become the leader. Quote:
That's only if they knew Tatsuya's abilities though. Because Tatsuya's MB is a state secret, its probably not going to be told to any of the clan members. So, all of the normal clanmembers just think that Tatsuya's a skilled bodyguard with anti-magic capabilities. |
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2013-06-27, 21:49 | Link #5144 | |
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2013-06-27, 22:41 | Link #5145 | |
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and she is waiting for the right time to revealed it ( after he graduated from high school ) agree, i think normal clan members don't know about his mist dispersal. |
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2013-06-28, 00:21 | Link #5147 | |
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2013-06-28, 07:24 | Link #5149 | |
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""You are disobeying my direct order?" "The only one allowed to order me is Miyuki alone." The tension reached its peak. Within that period of urgency, as if time had stopped, The world turned to ‘Night’. It was not mere darkness." If you look that part from volume 8, there was a lot of tension so Tatsuya should have been actively paying attention to Maya's movement. There's no mention of her pulling out a CAD and I doubt she would have predicted this situation and had a CAD in her hand the entire time(its possible that she planned the whole thing to gauge how well she would do in a fight with Tatsuya, but I still think Tatsuya would have noticed a CAD if she held one). |
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2013-06-28, 07:37 | Link #5150 | |
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2013-06-28, 07:59 | Link #5151 | |
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Still talking about that analogy, depending on the calculation a person can calculate it quickly or slowly. For example 1+1=2 can be done almost instantly (without using calculator) but a calculation where we got something like 4^2^3^4 can't be done in a second...though there could be a freaking genius who possibly can do it in a second. That kind of complex calculation needs calculator to get the result almost instantly. Now I think this is what makes Tatsuya a bit different.. you see, whenever someone see a math question and try to answer it, they still need to calculate it in their brains before getting the result. What I believe is that for Tatsuya, all the questions AND answers are already implanted in his brain. As a result, he can give a result WITHOUT doing any calculation.. To summarize, I don't think not using CAD means that he/she is using flash cast. IIRC there's a line that mention that magicians can actually use magic without it but it will take too long to cast or something.. and I also vaguely remember something about ancient magician who rarely use it though I'm not so sure about this. What flash cast ultimately is that no-casting spell, 0 delay, etc
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2013-06-28, 10:06 | Link #5154 | |
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2013-06-28, 11:22 | Link #5156 |
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maybe there is but it wasnt stated yet, we still didnt see he fighting with full power, since there are a lot of layers that were said to restrict him that we dont know yet. it's difficult to speculate how strong he really is right now.
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2013-06-28, 11:49 | Link #5157 |
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in the 101 Battalion, there are some people that can beat him (the Major for example) but just under some conditions.
Even Lina has the upper hand when fighting one-on-one with Tatsuya. But yeah, in an full-all out battle (when Tats has no restriction whatsoever), I doubt anyone can defeat Tatsuya. Even if someone does, there won't be a small price
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2013-06-28, 12:26 | Link #5158 | |
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Actually, it's one-hit two kill (at least) since using Lina's magic at full power would kill her and Tatsuya needs a satellite to increase his range to the point he doesn't vaporize himself. The attack magic so far exceeds the defensive capabilities of the characters that comparing strengths has no meaning.
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2013-06-28, 12:29 | Link #5159 | |
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