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Old 2014-01-24, 18:00   Link #1461
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Sorry for the double post, but Chapter 7 apparently has 11 Parts...



Someone needs to give Kamijou a big damn hug after this despair...

That said, I can only explain Kamijou's reaction with all the stress pilled up on him. Because as a reader I could point hundred of points that can't be right with that "perfect" world and that would lead to its self-destruction on long term...

Also I would never trust into Othinius's promise to keep the world like this!


That said, the festival scene was really nice and I can imagine this as somewhat of a romantic end of a series, where the hero destroys the evil monster and must kill himself to keep it dead, but making the best use of his last evening... But here, Touma, there is no climax for this. This world is so wrong, you are officially apologized to smash it! Burn it to the ground!
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Old 2014-01-24, 18:06   Link #1462
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I think I'm going to need a mod to change my name soon. Does anybody know how I can do that?
why? no need to. its at-least better then mine. i mean... who names themselves Goldero? that an't very creative. all i did was add Gold+zero.
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Old 2014-01-24, 18:13   Link #1463
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is, it was insane.

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Someone needs to give Kamijou a big damn hug after this despair...
in my case I would say:

"Touma, you want a friend?"
"I'll be your friend"

one of the most depressing parts of the story Index.

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That said, I can only explain Kamijou's reaction with all the stress pilled up on him. Because as a reader I could point hundred of points that can't be right with that "perfect" world and that would lead to its self-destruction on long term...
is the stress, the mind of a person fails at several points in this state. Sad to see a hero as well, I think my dream to see Touma suffering from alcoholism is not impossible.
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Old 2014-01-24, 18:16   Link #1464
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If that god protected this world of peace, created the people’s smiles, and behaved impeccably, what title befitted the person who opposed her?
There was only one answer.
“Yes.”
Kamijou covered his face with his hands as he sat in the bench.
“If anyone should be called evil, it’s me.”
Poor Touma ...damn .... This just so sad

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How should he kill himself?
Kamijou vaguely pondered that question as he wandered aimlessly through the streets. The answer would change where he had to go. He had never given it thought before. Othinus’s comments had been right on the mark. He had become so used to experiencing such unreasonable misfortune for so long that no normal trouble would kill him. Whether he was aware of it or not, he would somehow avoid death.
If he chose his method poorly, he would survive.
And that would undoubtedly damage this world of peace and smiles.
In which case, he could not casually and impulsively decide his own fate. He had to think over it carefully.
He needed a method which left no room for survival.
Once he made the action, there had to be no way of turning back no matter how much pathetically he trembled and had second thoughts.
There had to be a clear point of no return.
He did not know when the destruction would occur, so he had to come to the right answer on the first try.
Touma just realized it now. Plot armor is nothing but LIES
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Old 2014-01-24, 18:24   Link #1465
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If that god protected this world of peace, created the people’s smiles, and behaved impeccably, what title befitted the person who opposed her?
There was only one answer.
“Yes.”
Kamijou covered his face with his hands as he sat in the bench.
“If anyone should be called evil, it’s me.”
sad part of this, really.

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Touma just realized it now. Plot armor is nothing but LIES
Touma is the first protagonist of the story who realizes that has it
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Old 2014-01-24, 18:36   Link #1466
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As he thought, he heard the distant noise of a beating drum.
...
“Oh, wow… Well, that’s Bersi’s decision. Besides, you should probably give some thought to Mjölnir shaking next to you there. I think she’s gonna explode out of jealousy before long.”
Wait, so Mjölni is still a drum even in the perfect world?

After all the hype in forums, Kamachi certainly did not disappoint.

And I'm sure Js06 deliberately stops at those cliffhangers for suspense and then decides to release the remaining parts in one go.
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Old 2014-01-24, 18:38   Link #1467
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Kamijou slowly closed his eyes. The roof had no fence or railing. If he just stepped forward, it would all be over. He only had to imagine. There was a path before him. A path leading to that which should be in the form it should take. A single unnecessary piece had been mixed in with a giant puzzle and it could never be completed as is. So he would remove that piece. He would create a path and move that piece off the table. That was all he was doing. While thinking this, he accidentally smiled. Off the table. That seemed to be the answer. After forcibly rejecting his desires, all that remained was escape. As his heart trembled at the thought of annihilation, it seemed he was trying to move his heart “somewhere other than here”. And yet no such place existed. That meant it would disappear.
He took a step.
With his heart numbed over as if it had been dunked in icy water, he finally managed to step forward.
He took a second step.
He moved forward. He walked down the path. He walked toward the result everyone had to want.
He took a third step.
With each step, he grew more used to the bizarre action.
There was no fourth step to take. Even so, he did not open his eyes. He would follow the same action and move his foot forward again. This would end it. There would be no miracles or coincidences. There was no way he could “somehow or other” be saved. Othinus had rejected that sort of vague concept. And so he would die. He would disappear. He would be no more. This was not a sweet story of taking a journey to a better place. He would simply be annihilated.
And he began to fall.
WILL!!! HURRY UP COME! SAVE THIS IDIOT ALREADY!~!!!

Ah .... I think we will see her at Part 3 :3 Silly me
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Old 2014-01-24, 18:41   Link #1468
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more importantly I cant believe Mjölnir X Thor is now a ship

anyways yeah that was really terrible, especially with Touma calling himself evil
sure before he wouldn't let himself be weighed down by that concept, but at times there are things that are truly evil

also, why am I half-expecting Mikoto to catch him? She hasnt been shown with all the characters yet has she?
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Old 2014-01-24, 18:42   Link #1469
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is the stress, the mind of a person fails at several points in this state. Sad to see a hero as well, I think my dream to see Touma suffering from alcoholism is not impossible.
You take alcohol when you want to get the illusion control over your life back. Touma has control about his life, but it is only a decision between "Do I kill myself or everyone else?".
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Old 2014-01-24, 18:47   Link #1470
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Touma used to dismiss the notion of good and evil but now faced with Othnius's world he comes to the conclusion that if anything is evil it is him. Never thought I would see Touma driven to suicide and even worse he considers doing it the most meaningful thing he can do.
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Old 2014-01-24, 18:48   Link #1471
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more importantly I cant believe Mjölnir X Thor is now a ship
I think you read that part wrong Kenju.

That was Thor talking about Marian and Mjolnir I believe.
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Old 2014-01-24, 18:52   Link #1472
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I think you read that part wrong Kenju.

That was Thor talking about Marian and Mjolnir I believe.
Ah yeah, that makes sense
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Old 2014-01-24, 18:52   Link #1473
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Looking at the final illustration, who the hell managed to reduce Othinus onto her knees? NVM, don't answer that; I'll wait and read it for myself

+1 on how Ch7Pt2 is full of feels.
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Old 2014-01-24, 18:53   Link #1474
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sad part of this, really.



Touma is the first protagonist of the story who realizes that has it
OF the story? Of the history of Shonen hero, he the one who note it !
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Old 2014-01-24, 18:58   Link #1475
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Wait, so Mjölni is still a drum even in the perfect world?

After all the hype in forums, Kamachi certainly did not disappoint.

And I'm sure Js06 deliberately stops at those cliffhangers for suspense and then decides to release the remaining parts in one go.
Isn't perfect, Othinus doesn't know the full details of dispair or else she would notice Misaka Will or certain little fact you know... Touma's memory loss?
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Old 2014-01-24, 19:01   Link #1476
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Isn't perfect, Othinus doesn't know the full details of dispair or else she would notice Misaka Will or certain little fact you know... Touma's memory loss?
Yeah ... I dunno how Othinus power work so ... we might see it later

EDIT : While she may be God, she isn't all-knowing

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“This is the best possible spot to end my life, Othinus. I couldn’t make something like this on my own.”
What the ... I note this part and my feeling like !@!@$#%@$#%~
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Old 2014-01-24, 19:03   Link #1477
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Touma used to dismiss the notion of good and evil but now faced with Othnius's world he comes to the conclusion that if anything is evil it is him. Never thought I would see Touma driven to suicide and even worse he considers doing it the most meaningful thing he can do.
agree.......

when talking about gods, comes into question the Omnipotence paradox, that's boring.
and lets not forget that according to Matrix the human mind does not accept perfection.
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Old 2014-01-24, 19:05   Link #1478
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besides we dont need any more torture about his memory loss, Touma has alright settled that personal problem
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Old 2014-01-24, 19:09   Link #1479
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besides we dont need any more torture about his memory loss, Touma has alright settled that personal problem
True... It like adding salt to the wound
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Old 2014-01-24, 19:11   Link #1480
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dont think it would affect him anyways
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“What the hell am I doing here?”

“What’s wrong with getting a little excited? Saving every last one of the 20,000 plus Sisters deserves at least this much.”

“But it does cost a lot! Look behind you, #1. All those clones are staring restlessly at the food stands!! And Misaka Worst-chan, that mass of ill will and foundation of the Third Season project, is egging them on!!”
I know that's Accelerator but who are the two(?) people he's talking to?
EDIT: actually that 2nd line might be Accel
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