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Shadow5YA · 2015-11-22, 14:35

Good skills (even accessible early on) that would be missed would be something like Blasst or Ekseed, gained from having 3-4 stacks of the same skill.

Not that it matters at this point, but I was just saying you had nothing worth resetting over

GDB · 2015-11-22, 17:02

Unfortunately, her head piece did have Ekseed. So even though I got it back, no one can use it.

Also, I'm starting to get rather irritated at the Rose worshiping that's been going in these skits and cutscenes. And she hasn't even been in my party that long.

Shadow5YA · 2015-11-22, 17:13

They mention being "pure of heart" a couple of times, but that's just a fairy tale Gramps told Sorey to glorify his resonance ability to see Seraphim.

What it really comes down to is that Sorey was raised under a Seraph's blessing from a very young age, similar to how Rose unknowingly had Dezel following her. Edna talks about it after the Dragonewt fight.

Alisha did not have such a fortunate upbringing.

Chaos2Frozen · 2015-11-22, 17:56

You know the one thing I do like that this story addressed is that "pure of heart" can go both ways, so long as they believe themselves to be doing the right thing, a person won't be affected by the malevolent even if they commit terrible acts.

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Also, I'm starting to get rather irritated at the Rose worshiping that's been going in these skits and cutscenes. And she hasn't even been in my party that long.

It gets tone down a bit afterwards.

GDB · 2015-11-22, 19:11

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Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

It gets tone down a bit afterwards.

Good to know. They've been laying it on rather thick just in that first dungeon + field + town.

Shadow5YA · 2015-11-22, 20:16

It was a rather flimsy excuse to get Rose quickly acquainted to the Seraphim, since you were on enemy territory and had no human party member to help you since Alisha left.

There's a even skit in Lastonbell after Rose forms the Squire contract where she talks about how Lailah made her memorize all the "true name" stuff for the fusions at once.

GDB · 2015-11-24, 11:59

Okay, this whole SC battle system is starting to get really annoying. I appreciate that they were trying to be more similar to Graces, but it's just awful. Just going from Pendrago to Gododjin (and collecting stuff and fighting as necessary along the way), I ended up with a base SC of like 24 by the time I reached the town. Did they think actively punishing players for getting into a battle groove was a good idea?

Also wishing there were a difficulty between Normal and Moderate. I got myself too underleveled to do Moderate, but Normal is too easy.

Shadow5YA · 2015-11-24, 19:09

That's not how it works.

You start out with a base SC of 100. Each battle wears down your base SC by 1, or significantly more if you die.

You're supposed to be using the snacks you collected or made through Support Actions to replenish your base SC, or by going back to the inn to rest.

The point is to give your party members a sense of fatigue while adventuring, otherwise you would never use your food or rest at an inn at all since it's easy to heal during battle and your party members automatically come back with 1 HP outside of battle. Unlike Graces, taking breathers by resting at inns is how you get the majority of your skits. If you haven't been resting, then you have been missing out.

Also, even with a low base SC, it's not like you can't regenerate it back up to 100 during battle just by guarding. Base SC isn't a hard battle cap like it was in Graces.

GDB · 2015-11-24, 21:49

I rest for skits, but otherwise I don't like to. It's just an annoyance, though dying lowering it faster does explain why stupid Rose was at 43 earlier while Sorey was still at like 93. I swear with this AI it'd sometimes be easier to just go in solo and kite with Mikleo's kamui.

GDB · 2015-12-05, 09:25

After taking a week off, I started playing a bit more yesterday. The Dallahan boss (Wind Temple) was stupid difficult. Until I told the AI to just not bother and fought it by myself. It's kind of sad how much easier the game is when you don't have an AI trying to kill itself. Like against that hellion blob that neither moves nor turns. Again had to tell the AI to not bother because Rose kept standing right in front of it instead of moving to its side.

And got Zaveid and did all the available skits before stopping for the night. He's such an infinitely better character than Dezel. After like, 5 minutes I'm already liking him. Probably helps that he reminds me of Zelos.

Kimidori · 2015-12-06, 09:10

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Originally Posted by GDB

After taking a week off, I started playing a bit more yesterday. The Dallahan boss (Wind Temple) was stupid difficult. Until I told the AI to just not bother and fought it by myself. It's kind of sad how much easier the game is when you don't have an AI trying to kill itself. Like against that hellion blob that neither moves nor turns. Again had to tell the AI to not bother because Rose kept standing right in front of it instead of moving to its side.

And got Zaveid and did all the available skits before stopping for the night. He's such an infinitely better character than Dezel. After like, 5 minutes I'm already liking him. Probably helps that he reminds me of Zelos.

Set the AI to run and have hidden guard battle action pretty much makes most boss easy, you just get free attack while the boss chasing the AI.

FlareKnight · 2015-12-06, 14:41

Getting through the early part, I'm tempted to just speed through to the point Alisha leaves just to get this over with. It's like "hi you....too bad you are leaving the game soon. Thanks for stopping by"

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MAX_COLA_POWER! · 2015-12-07, 10:08

Yeah, just saw the entire walkthrough on it. Kinda glad I didnt buy this game^^;;. Having Alisha leave was pretty tough to see, and no offense to Caitlin Glass, I liked her speech patterns to make Rose all cool, but she just sounded too much like a mom trying to be hip with all the youngsters^^;;.

Pen3 · 2015-12-10, 05:19

I actually like Rose as a character.... plus she has a nice ass. I mostly play as Rose, but if Alisha was available i would play her more because spears are cool to use. Probably why i enjoy playing the meele characters like Judith and Leia (Cheria in grace is just op on her own though). Mikleo is by far the most annoying character in Zestiria for me.

frubam · 2015-12-10, 15:14

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...plus she has a nice ass.

Going down the stairs in Ladylake =03....

Sacredus · 2015-12-14, 16:42

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2015-12-14/bandai-namco-trademarks-tales-of-zestiria-the-x-tales-of-rays-in-europe/.96513

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Bandai Namco Entertainment filed for trademarks for "Tales of Zestiria the X" and "TALES OF THE RAYS" in Europe on Monday.

GDB · 2015-12-14, 16:57

Unless it's a sequel, they can kiss my ass with any form of Director's Cut for this game. They'd have to basically remake the entire thing to make it palpable.

Freeter · 2015-12-14, 19:23

The X is for crossing out Alisha on the box

Tokkan · 2015-12-15, 03:35

"Zestiria the X" is the upcoming anime.
http://toz-thex-anime.tales-ch.jp/

Von Himmel · 2015-12-15, 05:34

That is going to be a spin off right? With Lailah seiyuu died (...

) it'll be hard for them to adapt the whole game to anime

2015-11-22, 20:16	Link #946
Shadow5YA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010	It was a rather flimsy excuse to get Rose quickly acquainted to the Seraphim, since you were on enemy territory and had no human party member to help you since Alisha left. There's a even skit in Lastonbell after Rose forms the Squire contract where she talks about how Lailah made her memorize all the "true name" stuff for the fusions at once. Last edited by Shadow5YA; 2015-11-22 at 20:28.

2015-12-06, 14:41	Link #952
FlareKnight User of the "Fast Draw" Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada	Getting through the early part, I'm tempted to just speed through to the point Alisha leaves just to get this over with. It's like "hi you....too bad you are leaving the game soon. Thanks for stopping by" . __________________ Anime-Evo

2015-12-07, 10:08	Link #953
MAX_COLA_POWER! Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Puerto Rico	Yeah, just saw the entire walkthrough on it. Kinda glad I didnt buy this game^^;;. Having Alisha leave was pretty tough to see, and no offense to Caitlin Glass, I liked her speech patterns to make Rose all cool, but she just sounded too much like a mom trying to be hip with all the youngsters^^;;. __________________ She's in your internets, watching you masterdebate.

2015-12-14, 19:23	Link #958
Freeter beyond Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: in the club	The X is for crossing out Alisha on the box __________________

2015-12-15, 05:34	Link #960
Von Himmel エーレンフェストの聖女 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dollars	That is going to be a spin off right? With Lailah seiyuu died (... ) it'll be hard for them to adapt the whole game to anime __________________ 「何かが起こっても、わたくしが守ります」

2015-11-22, 14:35	Link #941
Shadow5YA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010	Good skills (even accessible early on) that would be missed would be something like Blasst or Ekseed, gained from having 3-4 stacks of the same skill. Not that it matters at this point, but I was just saying you had nothing worth resetting over

2015-11-22, 17:02	Link #942
GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	Unfortunately, her head piece did have Ekseed. So even though I got it back, no one can use it. Also, I'm starting to get rather irritated at the Rose worshiping that's been going in these skits and cutscenes. And she hasn't even been in my party that long.

2015-11-22, 17:13	Link #943
Shadow5YA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010	They mention being "pure of heart" a couple of times, but that's just a fairy tale Gramps told Sorey to glorify his resonance ability to see Seraphim. What it really comes down to is that Sorey was raised under a Seraph's blessing from a very young age, similar to how Rose unknowingly had Dezel following her. Edna talks about it after the Dragonewt fight. Alisha did not have such a fortunate upbringing.

2015-11-24, 11:59	Link #947
GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	Okay, this whole SC battle system is starting to get really annoying. I appreciate that they were trying to be more similar to Graces, but it's just awful. Just going from Pendrago to Gododjin (and collecting stuff and fighting as necessary along the way), I ended up with a base SC of like 24 by the time I reached the town. Did they think actively punishing players for getting into a battle groove was a good idea? Also wishing there were a difficulty between Normal and Moderate. I got myself too underleveled to do Moderate, but Normal is too easy.

2015-11-24, 19:09	Link #948
Shadow5YA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010	That's not how it works. You start out with a base SC of 100. Each battle wears down your base SC by 1, or significantly more if you die. You're supposed to be using the snacks you collected or made through Support Actions to replenish your base SC, or by going back to the inn to rest. The point is to give your party members a sense of fatigue while adventuring, otherwise you would never use your food or rest at an inn at all since it's easy to heal during battle and your party members automatically come back with 1 HP outside of battle. Unlike Graces, taking breathers by resting at inns is how you get the majority of your skits. If you haven't been resting, then you have been missing out. Also, even with a low base SC, it's not like you can't regenerate it back up to 100 during battle just by guarding. Base SC isn't a hard battle cap like it was in Graces.

2015-11-24, 21:49	Link #949
GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	I rest for skits, but otherwise I don't like to. It's just an annoyance, though dying lowering it faster does explain why stupid Rose was at 43 earlier while Sorey was still at like 93. I swear with this AI it'd sometimes be easier to just go in solo and kite with Mikleo's kamui.

2015-12-05, 09:25	Link #950
GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	After taking a week off, I started playing a bit more yesterday. The Dallahan boss (Wind Temple) was stupid difficult. Until I told the AI to just not bother and fought it by myself. It's kind of sad how much easier the game is when you don't have an AI trying to kill itself. Like against that hellion blob that neither moves nor turns. Again had to tell the AI to not bother because Rose kept standing right in front of it instead of moving to its side. And got Zaveid and did all the available skits before stopping for the night. He's such an infinitely better character than Dezel. After like, 5 minutes I'm already liking him. Probably helps that he reminds me of Zelos.

2015-12-10, 05:19	Link #954
Pen3 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007	I actually like Rose as a character.... plus she has a nice ass. I mostly play as Rose, but if Alisha was available i would play her more because spears are cool to use. Probably why i enjoy playing the meele characters like Judith and Leia (Cheria in grace is just op on her own though). Mikleo is by far the most annoying character in Zestiria for me.

2015-12-14, 16:57	Link #957
GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	Unless it's a sequel, they can kiss my ass with any form of Director's Cut for this game. They'd have to basically remake the entire thing to make it palpable.

2015-12-15, 03:35	Link #959
Tokkan Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Australia Age: 35	"Zestiria the X" is the upcoming anime. http://toz-thex-anime.tales-ch.jp/