(L+CR) Kyoukai no Kanata (Beyond the Boundary)

[Master_Yoma]

Mirai in a maid outfit and seemed to join the club when she seen that book

[all_flying]

Originally Posted by orion

How do you know that they didn't cast her out since she has no power? She's prob considered an embarrassment since she has almost no power. I bet that godeater prob has an unpleasant side effect for using it.

No, if they were embarrassed just because of things like that, they wouldn't sheltered Mirai.

Originally Posted by Reincarnated

This anime always gives little, unclear hints that aren't explained directly (e.g. Sakura absorsing youmu's power adding to her weapon) and I like that about Kyoukai no Kanata.

That was also why I enjoyed it. Just a bit of patience and attention and you can get almost all of the pictures. There is barely any long-ass chuuni dialogue/monologue which helps too. Now I understand why my friend said To Aru series was just too 'fantastical' to him.

Spoiler for ep 5 symbolism:

[Flower]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

Hate to be the first person to go against positive reactions to this episode, but honestly, I feel compelled to make counterarguments.

The idea that Episode 5 lacked "forced moe" relative to earlier episodes really makes me raise my eyebrows. Mirai was forced to dress up in a maid outfit, act shyly, and literally pose for the camera. How much more "forced moe" can you get?

Honestly, the blatant pandering in this episode did not sit well with me. The way this show does sex gags in particular is just so painfully blunt, landing with all the subtlety and originality of an Acme Anvil.

I will say I liked the one-on-one moments between Mirai and Mitsuki. That was genuinely good, and featured some nice character development for both. And I do like how Mirai's poverty has been presented. That's also painful to watch, but in this case, it's painful in an arguably good way. It makes me feel sorry for her, and hope that she can turn it around soon.

On the whole, I'd probably give Episode 5 a 7/10. It was Ok. It had some bits that I enjoyed, and it had some bits that annoyed me. It was probably a good time to have a slower-paced episode where characterization can breath a bit.

Hmm. Well, I guess what you call the pandering scenes were not painful for me, but not because they worked or didn't work. They made no impression on me whatsoever. For me the issue was what felt to be a jerky pacing. It did not mess things up so much as it was something that caught my notice and thus distracted me from the ep. And I guess the "sex gags" did that and more for you.

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by Flower

Hmm. Well, I guess what you call the pandering scenes were not painful for me, but not because they worked or didn't work. They made no impression on me whatsoever. For me the issue was what felt to be a jerky pacing. It did not mess things up so much as it was something that caught my notice and thus distracted me from the ep. And I guess the "sex gags" did that and more for you.

Well, the one fighting scene felt a big quick/random, and it perhaps clashed with the generally slower pace throughout Episode 5. Perhaps that's what caused a jerky pacing feel for you?

I myself never had an issue with the fight scene though.

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by orion

How do you know that they didn't cast her out since she has no power? She's prob considered an embarrassment since she has almost no power. I bet that godeater prob has an unpleasant side effect for using it.

I didn't mean to imply knowledge of her current family situation. I was talking about her lineage. Having been born in that family was likely enough for her to have the ability to perceive youmu, even if she never developed any other powers.

On the other hand, it's possible she couldn't even do that before she got her hands on this weapon, and that it is somehow granting her that ability along with everything else it does.

[MartianMage]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

Well, the one fighting scene felt a big quick/random, and it perhaps clashed with the generally slower pace throughout Episode 5. Perhaps that's what caused a jerky pacing feel for you?

I myself never had an issue with the fight scene though.

For me it was the constant scene switching in the second half that distracted me. It didn't help that the scenes have no relationship at all with each other thus breaking the flow and most of them are short too.

I actually had to skim through the second half again before I made my first post to make sure what happened in what order because of this.

IMO they should have moved Mitsuki's flashback somewhere in the middle of Mirai and Mitsuki's alone time in the shop instead of suddenly showing it in the middle of Sakura's scene and Akihito's scene.

[Flower]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

Well, the one fighting scene felt a big quick/random, and it perhaps clashed with the generally slower pace throughout Episode 5. Perhaps that's what caused a jerky pacing feel for you?

I myself never had an issue with the fight scene though.

Actually it was not the fighting scene specifically but the... umm... emotional "tone" of the ep as contrasted with the first four eps, as well as an overall quality of the series in general. It's not bad per se, it just isn't effective with me on a personal level is all. At least in KnK so far.

I made another post about it earlier - am on my phone atm so cut n paste is not too effective. My phone-fu is seriously lacking it seems.

[RobotCat]

Differences between anime and LN for Mirai joining the club:

Spoiler for LN differences joining club:

In the LN, Akihito, Mitsuki, and Hiromi are already in the club room when Mirai enters the club room. Akihito makes introductions and then talks about Mirai's 'imouto' qualities in order to convince Hiromi. Afterwards, Akihito makes Mirai act like a little sister to Hiromi (calling him oni'chan, etc) in order to pump him for information. Chronologically this scene would have happened right after the club scene in episode 3. Also, Mirai came into the club room once already (instead of attacking Akihito after school in episode 1 she'd have talked to him in the club room instead) and she was eying the book even then.

Also, they seem to have cut the best joke from the LN, which happens right after Mirai agrees to join the club:

Spoiler for LN spoiler:

Basically, after Mirai agrees to join, Hiromi says they have to do a welcoming tradition, and sticks his hands under Akihito's armpits. He then tells Mirai to do the same, saying how Akihito's armpits are the best while Akihito tries to protest. Mirai then stands up and makers her way over, prompting Akihito to yell how if he lets a girl do this to him then he'd lose his masculinity. However, instead of sticking her hands in Akihito's armpits, Mirai sticks her hands under Hiromi's armpits, forming a sort of hand-armpit train.

[whitecloud]

Do anyone want to comment on this....even though it is a bit blurry, can anyone could do better capture?

Those melon....

[liro]

Originally Posted by whitecloud

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[all_flying]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

Well, the one fighting scene felt a big quick/random, and it perhaps clashed with the generally slower pace throughout Episode 5. Perhaps that's what caused a jerky pacing feel for you?

I myself never had an issue with the fight scene though.

Originally Posted by MartianMage

For me it was the constant scene switching in the second half that distracted me. It didn't help that the scenes have no relationship at all with each other thus breaking the flow and most of them are short too.

I actually had to skim through the second half again before I made my first post to make sure what happened in what order because of this.

IMO they should have moved Mitsuki's flashback somewhere in the middle of Mirai and Mitsuki's alone time in the shop instead of suddenly showing it in the middle of Sakura's scene and Akihito's scene.

Originally Posted by Flower

Actually it was not the fighting scene specifically but the... umm... emotional "tone" of the ep as contrasted with the first four eps, as well as an overall quality of the series in general. It's not bad per se, it just isn't effective with me on a personal level is all. At least in KnK so far.

I made another post about it earlier - am on my phone atm so cut n paste is not too effective. My phone-fu is seriously lacking it seems.

Spoiler for 4 u guys:

Its pretty funny when people says nerdy things without actually knows what it means.

Originally Posted by liro

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Every time, I tell you! Every time!

[MartianMage]

Originally Posted by all_flying

Its pretty funny when people says nerdy things without actually knows what it means.

Pray tell what part of my post is nerdy.

Also there's nothing hard to understand about the point I'm making and I'm pretty sure I know what exactly I'm saying... but then again... this is probably just some blatant attempt at trolling.

[Kaoru Chujo]

I just rewatched the episode in order to understand what people were talking about, and to me this episode flowed nicely from start to finish. I didn't feel any distraction or interruption of feeling at all.

All scenes were related to each other, but not at a surface level. The whole episode was about Mirai having become more open to people and life, and drawing Mitsuki with her. Every scene but one was a useful part of that movement.

The one scene where the connections were distant was of the girl "shooting" the youmu on the tree. And we know there is a deeper connection there waiting mysteriously to be revealed.

The fighting scene was supremely important in that it made Mirai and Mitsuki a team, and accelerated the process of breaking Mitsuki's scared reserve toward Mirai and toward life. It was an emotional bridge, not an interruption.

The talk of glasses in the club room and the photography scene may both have seemed off-topic, but in fact they both served to make Mirai more human (so to speak) and less scary.

But one of the problems this show has is that it is trying to satisfy three notional audiences: those who want moe and fanservice; those who want romance and emotional character relations; and those who want action and logical plot. All anime try to scoop up as many audiences as possible, but sometimes it is a stretch. Not that any of us belongs to only one audience.

[MartianMage]

I don't see how Mitsuki's flashback in between Sakura's and Akihito's scene flows. The flashback was supposed to give us an insight that Mitsuki has always decided not to come to the festival and that she's not that happy about it. Like I said it would have been better if they moved the flashback in between Mirai and Mitsuki's alone time. It would have made more sense why she finally decided to go to the festival. Not saying that with the current scene direction you can't put the pieces together it's just IMO it made no sense for them to put the flashback in between 2 unrelated scenes.

[JediNight]

I was fine with the maid stuff this episode, albeit rolling my eyes at the cheesecake. I can't see any excuse for the pandering shown in the preview for next episode though.

I don't remember anything this crass in even the moe pandering they did in K-on.

[Libros]

You know what annoyed me about this episode? It's that when they went to see Naze, the thief, and she was told that Mirai was poor, Naze didn't even show a shred of guilt. Also, why has no one so far(in the show) asked why the hollow shadow's core was worth only 200 yen? People put barriers around their towns so that they didn't have to fight it. That's literally how powerful & dangerous it was.

[Ickarium]

I'm pretty sure they're setting up Izumi as, if not an outright villain, an antagonist. She seems to be one of those 'You are a hunter, emotions are the enemy' sorts, with what she told her sister and all.

She probably figures that Mirai is cursed, the core is useful for something else, so whatever. Mirai will deal if she's able and if not, she doesn't deserve to be a Spirit Warrior in the first place, or something.

I'm going to bet there's going to be some conflict between Izumi and her siblings at some point. This is simply the first sign.

(Also, has anyone else thought about the fact that Sakurai seemed be absorbing youmu cores, possibly for power. Wonder if that's what Izumi's plan is. Hallow's core has got to be strong if you can absorb it somehow.)

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by all_flying

Spoiler for 4 u guys:

Its pretty funny when people says nerdy things without actually knows what it means.

What word are you talking about?

The most "nerdy word" I wrote in what you quoted was "pace/pacing". I don't see anything wrong with how I'm using that word. If you think I'm using that word wrong, then please point out how/why.

[Kirarakim]

I didn't watch this latest episode but I decided the show just isn't doing it for me. I can deal with a slow plot but none of the characters grab me enough to stick with it. I think for a 1 cour series they should have interested me by now.

That is not to say I think this is an awful show, just not my cup of tea.

[NinjaRealist]

Originally Posted by Kirarakim

I didn't watch this latest episode but I decided the show just isn't doing it for me. I can deal with a slot plot but none of the characters grab me enough to stick with it. I think for a 1 cour series they should have interested me by now.

That is not to say I think this is an awful show, just not my cup of tea.

At this point I'm mostly watching for the beautiful pictures.

Is that shallow? Sort of. But I just love the art in this series. It's really a shame the writing is so much worse.