2009-07-19, 18:47 | Link #421 | |
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2) We don't have a clue, but most people believe that the in the end Battler was able to see magic only because he was drunk. 3) Who knows... anyway being incompetent is not a permanent status. Battler was certainly incompetent when Beatrice said that, but he can improve. 4) Again there's no fact here, but most people believe the portrait doesn't "really" changes. 5) I think there's only the usual thing you see in many anime, just a few references here and there. 6) Not only him. Pretty much everyone acts as if Ange doesn't exist. There are only two mentions of her from the people who go to Rokkenjima. One is from Eva on the airport scene, the other one is from Kyrie and Rosa while they drink tea in the afternoon of October4. There are some odd quotes that are pretty disturbing imho. In one of them Jessica says that "the cousins are finally all gathered together", and in another one everyone agrees that this is the most funny family meeting in six years because Battler is there. I.E. Battler -> Ange.
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2009-07-20, 12:39 | Link #426 |
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Am I the only one thinking Batler is indeed incompetent I mean if the condition to win is to disprove the witch, the first move he should have done is demand for Beatrice to define Witch... That would have been given more room to move..... then he should have start throwing all kind of theories equally as outlandish as a Witch but which the Witch canīt disprove and as outlandish as they are are fundamentally human and do not involve magic (Robots, the Yaimanu (he read Higurashi), government conspiracy, mad scientist, human mutant with power to walk through walls ) then the witch would probably crash them all with red text but may make some mistakes which could help Battler, he should also not have given up using the 18 as possible culprits as long as he can prove some of the 18 could have done it without having to point at an specific one it should be enough for him to trouble Beatrice without really sacrificing anyone.......
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2009-07-20, 12:48 | Link #427 | |
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2009-07-23, 14:24 | Link #433 |
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I just find it quite contradictory to what he said to George just a moment ago.
"What happens to a senile old man like myself will be decided by the roulette. I want to sit here and see the what the result will be with my own eyes." He seems to have given up. He probably thought the resistance with the mirror was useless. I think that scene might be a big hint. |
2009-07-23, 15:58 | Link #434 |
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Hmm... Perhaps he did give up on himself, but then that could mean several things anyway: he either didn't care and killed the butterfly to make a statement to Beatrice or he still wanted to give the others a chance. Personally, I think he knows a lot more than we think so far, after all he is one of the underdevelopped characters. Hopefully we get more backstory on his relationship with Kinzo.
Speaking of which, wasn't Kinzo involved with the military? Genji's way with the knife and quick reflexes make me think he was trained as a soldier or a bodyguard. |
2009-07-26, 07:31 | Link #436 |
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I just finished Turn of the Golden Witch. I must say, I am really in love with Beatrice's character. She seems to be be almost hurt... and then turns around and really makes you believe that she is the cruelest of the witches.
I scared my boyfriend badly by laughing at the first twilight. Not because I found the deaths funny, but because I simply can't wait to see how it's handled in the anime, and how the non-VN readers react (But he understood in the end, when I explained why I was laughing like a maniac). Very enthralling! I'm really looking forward to part three, which I'll start on the beginning of this long car trip. I really haven't been spending much time trying to solve the puzzls of the locked rooms, I feel I'm still missing too much information to get much of a good explanation. Also, Battler's comeback was pretty sweet. Still, I'm not sure quite what to believe. I want to believe in the magical explanations, but at the same time common sense says 'is that really true?'. Bah, brain, can't we agree on one thing? Last edited by Mint Kashiro; 2009-07-26 at 07:41. |
2009-07-28, 11:39 | Link #437 |
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Finished the second chapter and though I keep trying to think of rational explanations it does seem like we've tipped pretty fully onto the fantasy side of things with this one - to the point that trying to deny them honestly just feels like doing so purely for the sake of obstinacy.
Beatrice pretty much the stole the show the entire episode with mostly just Rosa getting in a few remaining shots (Including the quite awesome "touch my daughter and I'll show you just how lukewarm the hell you crawled out of really was"). Still, how can that compare with Beatrice's explanation of her favor to Battler in how she arranged the First Twilight? The tea party was full of wonderful. |
2009-08-01, 14:14 | Link #439 |
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Okay, so I just finished Episode 2 and it was in fact pretty darn amazing.
I really only have one thing to put out there and it may or may not be significant (or even correct) but it's leading me down the path of believing whether or not there is magic Beatrice isn't the killer. In both episodes one and two it's said that the way Beatrice gets into locked rooms is she turns into butterflies and slips through the cracks (In other words magic). But in episode 2 she states in red that there are no cracks in the doors when she's laying down the closed room rules for Battler. If there are no cracks then there's no way she could slip through them even with magic. Last edited by TheShinySword; 2009-08-01 at 14:41. |
2009-08-01, 15:54 | Link #440 | |
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That was a point that I had forgotten about. If there aren't cracks, than it should disprove what she said in Episode 1. However, the stakes were able to get through the door by somewhat "phasing in". Of course this is only if we are to believe in everything that happened in that scene.
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