Code Geass R2 - Episode 25 Discussion / Poll [END]

[Freya]

Originally Posted by Cooler1339

This is my favorite anime of all time. Lelouch is badass and had a plan to the very end. He made everyone look like a fool when they had to sit there watching him win, even when he was dieing. Lelouch wasn't even afraid to die, he was just waiting for it.

Yep. And only a few people know of his true intentions. Suzaku, Nunnally, Kallen...I think.


Kaguya looked sad when Lelouch was about to get killed. She does care. :]

[CapoExecutor]

Originally Posted by $akura

Where are people getting the idea that Lelouch is still alive? Just a question...

Many of the supporting posts points to the memory-transfer that Nunnally experienced when she touched Lelouch's hand, saying that it can only be done by immortal Code-Bearers. Thus, the possibility of Lelouch possessing a Code to do a memory-transfer brings the possibility of his survival.

[Freya]

Originally Posted by CapoExecutor

Many of the supporting posts points to the memory-transfer that Nunnally experienced when she touched Lelouch's hand, saying that it can only be done by immortal Code-Bearers. Thus, the possibility of Lelouch possessing a Code to do a memory-transfer brings the possibility of his survival.

You never see his body afterwards anyways. You never know wthell happened.

[DepressiveManiac]

I'd just like to say, that while I thought the ending was really great, am I the only one who feels the ending wasn't somewhat of a Wallbanger not-unlike that of Gurren Lagann's ending? I mean, Nunnally pretty much has to live now knowing that she indirectly was the result of her brother's death, and was pretty emotionally destroyed in that ending...

Just seems all so depressing that Suzaku and Nunnally are around for the new peaceful world, but won't really get to enjoy it...

[$akura]

Originally Posted by Kang Seung Jae

The driver of the cart that C.C. was in at the ending.

Ohhh, that explains a lot. Thanks.

[D-KLAC]

Originally Posted by Freya

You never see his body afterwards anyways. You never know wthell happened.

because "my theroies" keep mentioning TIME SKIP cause there were 2 TIME SKIP in R2-25.

cause those TIME SKIP is keeping some answers especially one other person really know GORO with sunrise & geass writers.

see i told ya you should follow "my theroies" & GS-INSTINCT plus rewind/pause those scene in youtube to understand.

because i'm the KLAC & i will solve the r2-25 mystery.

[kir44n]

Not even just the cart. The "Lelouch Lives" comes from how very very uncertain "death" is in this particular show, combined with the ambiguous open ending that leaves several pieces of plot undeveloped.

[Liddo-kun]

Originally Posted by rpgman1

Yep he did against Sutherland bullets as Zero.

If you mean the parade on episode 25 where "Zero" kills Lelouch. Those are Wards shooting at Zero, not Sutherlands.

And I think it might be all part of Lelouch's plan, the Wards were not really aiming for Suzaku and were intentionally missing. If the soldiers get lucky and Zero get killed, Zero Requiem would fail.

[Freya]

Originally Posted by Liddo-kun

If you mean the parade on episode 25 where "Zero" kills Lelouch. Those are Wards shooting at Zero, not Sutherlands.

And I think it might be all part of Lelouch's plan, the Wards were not really aiming for Suzaku and were intentionally missing. If the soldiers get lucky and Zero get killed, Zero Requiem would fail.

wthell u talking about? You saying it was them missing on purpose? Please. Suzakus just too fast for them so they missed. Simple.

[rpgman1]

Nobody understands what Lelouch is about except C.C. She said to Kaguya that you only understand one aspect of Lelouch. Nunnally realized it when she touched Lelouch's hand as he was dying, then the flood of memories was shown in the background. Only C.C., Suzaku, and finally Nunnally were able to understand what Lelouch is doing all along. I doubt the Britannian soldiers know anything about Zero Requiem.

[Liddo-kun]

Originally Posted by Freya

wthell u talking about? You saying it was them missing on purpose? Please. Suzakus just too fast for them so they missed. Simple.

I have the firm belief that you are a Suzaku fan.

[Charred Knight]

Originally Posted by DepressiveManiac

I'd just like to say, that while I thought the ending was really great, am I the only one who feels the ending wasn't somewhat of a Wallbanger not-unlike that of Gurren Lagann's ending? I mean, Nunnally pretty much has to live now knowing that she indirectly was the result of her brother's death, and was pretty emotionally destroyed in that ending...

Just seems all so depressing that Suzaku and Nunnally are around for the new peaceful world, but won't really get to enjoy it...

I brought this up, and no one really cares because their not Lelouch. Simply put since Code Geass revolves around Lelouch, only Lelouch matters to some people.

I find it kind of disturbing really.

[Freya]

Originally Posted by Liddo-kun

I have the firm belief that you are a Suzaku fan.

Lol it's just a fact that Suzaku is just pure h4x. Dude can freaking run on walls.

[Narona]

Originally Posted by Scalious

My point is that Lelouch is as much the next code beaer and Suzaku or Nunnely.

Its a Comple Stretch to think Lelouch has it.

We Know only 3 Things

Lelouch made no attempt to get his code...he did not kill charles and charles did not give him the code, because he had his code til the very moment he disapperd.

Suzauku is the code bearer...!!!!I say this to be more true...

Not true at all, his hand was already eaten, we don't see his hand.

[wingdarkness]

Originally Posted by Charred Knight

How would it be the mother of plot twists? A huge portion of the people believe that Lelouch is alive.

I'm talking from a writers perspective...The way they reveal plot-twists in this show are in an overtly dramatic and impactive fashion...They purposely wanna shock the audience when a new twist presents itself...So to have this HUUUUUUGE scene of Lulu dying with all the memories in the background, with C.C. crying, with Nunally in a state of shock, with Suzaku dying inside for what he has to do, why would you $hit all of that down the river (IN MERE SECONDS) on this uber-ambiguous, subtle-hint searching mission that totally proves Lulu is a haywagon driver? It's absurd to me if you judge it by the flow of the writing techniques on reveals during the course of the show...So I just mean how the plot-twist is presented, which until Sunrise wants to decide there is no twist to consider (Charles throat-choking geass exchange fallacy aside)...

[D-KLAC]

well here the current alaviable archive of r2-25 http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...rch_type=&aq=f if you really check them & connect them with my theroies you get the idea that i've might solve this r2-25 mystery

[nines]

Originally Posted by Liddo-kun

I have the firm belief that you are a Suzaku fan.

Don't have to be a Suzaku fan to realize that he coulda dodged the southerlands otherwise hes insane plane and simple.

And for other theorys of the Britanians not knowing anything about Zero Requiem probably true but most of his soldiers are under geass still so it wouldn't matter, Also theres Orange-Kun saying go on Masked-Knight he most likely was informed of the plan and understanding his orders went alot with the plan to retreat and let Zero be basked in glory as the killer of the Demon Emperor. Lelouch probably is the driver of the cart he probably took Charles Gi Britanias code and is going to be with C.C during age of peace now.

The thing I think wrong with my theory of the soldiers being undergeass is we dunno if when you get a code does the geass effect ware off, maybe like what happened with Nunally it wore off or when Charles died. Maybe an R3 I kinda hope so just see what happened good cliffhanger but meh ^.^

[DepressiveManiac]

Originally Posted by Charred Knight

I brought this up, and no one really cares because their not Lelouch. Simply put since Code Geass revolves around Lelouch, only Lelouch matters to some people.

I find it kind of disturbing really.

Yeah, I can see that. It just... really bothers me. World is all happy and all, but Nunnally is emotionally damaged, lost everything, got a fate worse then death, and has to live with that and her sins (Comeon, does anyone really believe that Lelouch's death actually did anything but make her own sins more appearent? I didn't think so...) for the rest of her life. That, to me, sounds like a downer ending

EDIT: Infact, it's even on that page...

[Spectacular_Insanity]

Originally Posted by Narona

Not true at all, his hand was already eaten, we don't see his hand.

Yes we do. Watch the episode again.

[Theron]

Originally Posted by Freya

Lol it's just a fact that Suzaku is just pure h4x. Dude can freaking run on walls...

...witch he did while he and Lelouch were saving Nunnully in S1.

Also there were multiple spinzakus. He's not human. An early version of Jeremiah?