2008-04-21, 21:31 | Link #221 | |
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Your best bets might be works like Patlabor or SDF Macross (even though the latter are ridiculously advanced). There's other older works out there like VOTOMs, but their avoidance of the standard mecha bonus varies to a great degree.
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2008-04-21, 22:05 | Link #222 | |
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And as we've seen the frames' armor aren't exactly godlike either. |
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2008-04-21, 22:09 | Link #223 | |
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2008-04-21, 22:17 | Link #224 | |
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well, the contact is just a colored contact but specially made (whatever that means) he can still see out of the eye because it only covers the iris and you dont use your iris to see. this assumes he doesnt use his pupil to use the geass. |
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2008-04-21, 23:54 | Link #225 | |
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2008-04-21, 23:59 | Link #226 |
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Well, you also have to note that we have no idea if Britannia had even achieved Ariel superiority in during that battle with the EU to begin with, plus the beach head looked naturally rocky which suggests fortifications and entrenchment as well. And in almost every battle in Area 11 they re-framed from using their advantage in the air due to natural barriers and attempting to locate the JLF headquarters like in Narita or due to sabotage by the Order and the god like mop up of the remnants by Gawain's Hadron cannons >_>
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2008-04-22, 00:01 | Link #227 | |
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We don't even know if Britannia had Ariel superiority against the EU to do that though, and even against insurgents and the like they were hiding either behind lots of rock or in urban battle grounds which makes air power far more difficult to implement for Britannia I would imagine >_>
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Lancelot did things on its own last I recall, at least according to the conversation from Schniezel so he wasn't exactly 'inserted' by Britannia. And if he manages to pawn off an entire company of Panzers in short order I wouldn't think it a stretch for Suzaku to have overcome any Ariel resistance put up by the EU with relative ease
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2008-04-22, 01:02 | Link #231 | |
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With these in mind, it can explain why Europe could still hold out. Individual Super-units can perform pin-point strikes, but you can't use them to hold territory. As long as Europeans keep tab of where all the super-KMs are in the battlefield, they can organize troop movements around them. And it is assumed that Britannia doesn't have as many traditional troops as it could have in the battle, because they need to maintain military presence in all the Areas they hold. While on the other hand Europe is united and able to focus absolutely everything on their Western Front. Another point, is that Knightmare pilots HAVE to be pure Britannian (with Suzaku being the first exception). Thus they might have Area populations as grunt footsoldiers, but their own social code restricts mass recruiting of mecha pilots. (This is slightly balanced by the fact that civilian Britannians view Knighthood as a means to escape poverty. But one would assume there are strict criterias because being a Knight is one step closer to being a noble, and existing nobles are not known to encourage social advancement. Lulu's mother is one such example of someone who is looked down upon by others.) All things concerned, it isn't surprising that EU has numeral superiority and as such could absorb the losses they incur in defence.
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2008-04-22, 04:18 | Link #232 | |
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that anime is so fricking mecha hardcore, it only has three four types of mecha.... well okay just two mass produced, one variant mass production, and biological mecha weapon....
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2008-04-22, 10:03 | Link #233 |
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The one thing that confused me, but its probably more of a plot trick, is why the EU KM charged the Lancelot? From their configuration it would probably safe to say that they're built for long range (the arms are barrels)
That being said, I totatly see the EU KMs out classing the Empire's KM on high ground. They have 2 long range weapons we can see (gun arms) where as the others only have 1 machine gun per mecha. |
2008-04-22, 10:55 | Link #234 |
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Just a thought but could Knightmares be considered the successors to tank destroyers in terms of their role as opposed to a replacement for the tank in general?
In the siege of the Embassy I note the prescence of numerous large tanks, the heavy weapons with high recoil, flanked by KMF, agile, lighter guns. |
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The general faux-history of how Knightmare Frames came about was mentioned and translated long ago, and wiki-ed.
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2008-04-22, 11:47 | Link #236 | |
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Ilyushin Il-2 for WWII A 10 Thunderbolt II for Gulf War Armor are weak against air to ground attack (diving bomb, missile, 30+mm shells and other clever weapon) as their armor are mainly designed against ground to ground weapons (landmines, bazooka, canons). That's why large armored formations include anti aircraft vehicles. |
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2008-04-22, 11:48 | Link #237 |
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If they are that freaked out by Suzaku whose simply a Knight of 7 I hate to see what the 3, 6, and 1st knights can do or would instill on the battlefield.
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2008-04-22, 11:56 | Link #238 |
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If I was the European Supreme Commander in Code Geass, i would demand all military units to be designed as highly mobile and able to pack up and move at a minute's notice. No point fighting a futile battle, you just have to move back in position once the champion unit retreat for a recharge. As I previously suggested, Britannia likely doesn't have as much usable men as one might believe. They couldn't even spare any of the Knights of the Round when Zero made his first rebellion attempt.
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