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is madoka. it would explain why there's no present!homura. but i wonder, if madoka/homura died in the end..bec. if yes, how was she able to return in time? is madoka/homura's parents the main reason why she wants to stop herself from becoming an MG? Was she the Only One who remained in the future? she's like the new eve then? Aarggh! I WANT EP 10 ASAP!!
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2011-03-07, 13:43 | Link #1082 | |
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2011-03-07, 13:58 | Link #1083 |
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I think the biggest question would be Madoka's dream vision at the beginning of ep1. It was almost a vision of the future. How could a supposedly ordinary girl have a vision? It's too specific to be a concidence, especially in a story where the writer places details in for a specific reason.
Somehow Madoka is connected to a future self where she is already a Puella Magi. The new magazine scans aren't a big revelation, because the opening sequence showed two Madokas. Perhaps it is possible for Madoka to awaken to her powers without a contract with Kyubey. The Archer theory doesn't exactly fit, because Archer was a character who regretted his past, and sought to destroy himself to prevent his own future from happening. The Puella Magi Madoka seems like a guardian angel who gives the human Madoka the power she needs to make her hopes come true. |
2011-03-07, 14:05 | Link #1084 | |
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The term "Archer theory" is just used as a shorthand for that.
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2011-03-07, 14:12 | Link #1086 | |
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However, going by my extension off of it, maybe becoming a witch truly twisted original Madoka into the Homura that she is now. :shrug: The "Homura = future Madoka" theory certainly isn't the only possibility, of course. It's just my somewhat educated guess here given those magazine reveals. Whatever Episode 10 reveals, I'm looking forward to it. It'll be great to finally know who exactly Homura is...
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2011-03-07, 14:36 | Link #1087 | |
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Or maybe this Madoka has a cynical view of the world for different reasons. She may have gone through these events multiple times, or what Triple_R said happened, or maybe there's other reason. But it's not impossible for Madoka to have lost her kind nature due to events we don't know yet. She's shown hints of concern after all, for Mami when she died (and before she fought Charlotte), and for Kyoko when she knew she was going to get herself killed.
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2011-03-07, 14:41 | Link #1088 |
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Don't know how accurate this is but:
まず10話を観てください。ほむらのことを見直します!そして、もし ずっと録画していらっしゃる方がいたら、11、12話の前に、1話を観て いただきたい。きっとぜんぜん違う物語に見えてくると思うんです。それ てすごく贅沢のことですよね。1回観てだまされているわけじゃないです か。でもそれって無茶苦茶気持ちいい騙され方ですよ、たぶん。最後まで超 期待してください。ハードルを最大級まで上げてください!この作品はき っとそれを飛び越えられる作品です。 "Please first just watch episode 10. You'll see Homura in a much better light. And for any viewers out there who have been recording the whole thing, please watch the first episode before episodes 11 and 12. It'll totally look like two completely different shows. I think that's pretty cool. It's as if the first time you watched it you were completely fooled. But the good kind of fooled...maybe. Please watch all the way to the end. And set the bar high. This show will definitely surpass that."
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2011-03-07, 15:06 | Link #1089 |
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Wow, I can't wait until Episode 10.
This is going to be great! What Kazu-kun translated there would fit the Archer theory, I think. If the Archer theory is correct, everybody who can should definitely re-watch the 1st episode, just for all the "Aha!" moments it'll give with little clues being realized. However, what Kazu-kun translated could allude to something even more compelling. Something perhaps that hasn't even been speculated yet. Given the entropy reveal, that is genuinely possible.
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2011-03-07, 15:16 | Link #1092 | |
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There is definatly a connection though,homura's soulgem is pink afterall,I just hope it's more complex than Homura=Madoka,it wouldn't ruin the show for me,not even close,but it definatly wouldn't "wow" me. Of course I've already rewatched episode 1 and 2 a few times,maybe I wouldn't be saaying this if I hadn't.
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2011-03-07, 15:21 | Link #1094 | |
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I can't remember being this excited about an anime in literally ages, and the way I see it, loads of people feel that way too. Does anyone else?
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2011-03-07, 15:27 | Link #1095 | |
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I think Homura is just MG Madoka's friend from another time. From teaching her how to fight to how to protect others, Homura was Madoka's ally. However, Madoka met a tragic end, and Homura is in grief. She becomes a bit cynical and resigns only to protect Madoka in the past and nobody else. Ep10 will probably show us why she cares about Madoka so much, and that Homura protecting Madoka not just because of a future she regrets, but because she truly cares about Madoka. |
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2011-03-07, 15:28 | Link #1096 | |
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It's only through rewatching Episodes 1 and 3, and paying closer attention to the OP, that the Archer Theory even occurred to me (keep in mind that I wasn't following all the posters and sites putting forward the Archer theory before then). There's these tiny little hints in Episode 1 that may just perplex a person on first viewing, but kind of pop out at you on second viewing if you watch them with "Maybe Homura is future Madoka" in mind. I'd be quite satisfied if the Archer Theory ends up being correct. It would wow some viewers, just not the folks who engage the most in series speculations, like we do. Of course, it could be something else entirely, and I'll (probably) be happy with that as well.
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2011-03-07, 15:47 | Link #1097 | |
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EDIT: Nevermind, I didn't see that the pink soul gem thing was in the post you answered. The bow still applies, though.
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2011-03-07, 15:47 | Link #1098 | |
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Considering that, if Homura was just a friend that wanted to save Madoka out of friendship and gratitude, she would be a fucking hypocrite for saying that to Madoka in episode 7. I don't think she's like that and I definitely don't think this line was just coincidence... After 9 episodes I'm pretty convinced Homura isn't like that. Homura definitely loves Madoka, but she's trying to save her no just out of friendship but also because it's her responsibility somehow. So forcibly she has to be either Madoka herself, or someone from her family (like her mother or daughter), or a part of Madoka herself (like a familiar) but definitely not just a friend. Just my two cents, but I'm calling it!!
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Also makes me wonder who the father might be, lol. Quote:
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