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kivredia · 2013-02-02, 08:45

Yeah, order of things is changed a bit. Some things of this episode originally belonged in the later part of next weeks.

Next episode should be a treat for both Hakaze and Aika fans, lots of dere-dere and flashbacks. The pink background for Hakaze was a nice touch. Though it reminded me of Samon hitting the ground with his saya over and over again, made me cringe every time.

LKK · 2013-02-04, 12:10

Slightly OT: If you have access to the US PBS network, you might be interested in 2 shows that are scheduled for this coming Friday night, two episodes of the series Shakespeare Uncovered. Each Shakespeare Uncovered episode looks in depth at a specific play. Friday's first episode looks into Hamlet hosted by actor David Tennant. The second episode looks into The Tempest hosted by director Trevor Nunn. The shows air at 9pm & 10pm ET, but you should verify the times with your local listings if you're interested.

Bern-san · 2013-02-05, 07:02

January 21st - 27th
Anime sales: 18, *1,911 Zetsuen no Tempest
Manga sales: 4 *108,673 Zetsuen no Tempest, Vol.8

Don't know how other volumes of the manga have sold before but I guess the anime has helped a bit for volume 8?

Kakkou · 2013-02-05, 07:05

If it helped the manga sales then it'd be at least some profit to come from it, since the anime sales itself bombed.

SQA · 2013-02-05, 09:20

Previous volumes would only chart their 2nd week with around 60k total volumes. I'm not sure if that's due to release date or what (seems a tad odd). Still, it's at least boost of 30k initial sales volume over Vol 7 and 45k over Vol 6 (which I believe is actually the previous volume before the anime started). Add in some some back catalog sales (maybe an extra 5k per volume, so maybe another 40k total sales all together) and merchandize, then you probably don't have a loss for the anime. Which is a good thing. Also helps if it increase total circulation numbers for the manga magazine (something we tend to forget about, as well).

Huge hit, no. Probably profitable? Yes. Further cement BONES as doing solid anime that doesn't sell well? Yup!

Bern-san · 2013-02-05, 12:03

^Thanks for your input, I wasn't really expecting it to be a hit. I feared it was going to be a complete disaster although we'll have to see how the next volumes will sell I guess.

By the way in the light novels section I saw this:
4 *19,468 Zetsuen no Tempest 8.5 Collaboration Guide Book

Enternal · 2013-02-05, 15:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bern-san

January 21st - 27th
Anime sales: 18, *1,911 Zetsuen no Tempest
Manga sales: 4 *108,673 Zetsuen no Tempest, Vol.8

Don't know how other volumes of the manga have sold before but I guess the anime has helped a bit for volume 8?

What?! 1,911?! Wow... I actually thought that it would be higher. The story itself is rather good and... ouch. *sigh

SQA · 2013-02-05, 22:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enternal

What?! 1,911?! Wow... I actually thought that it would be higher. The story itself is rather good and... ouch. *sigh

Anime based of currently running Manga series is more for advertisement than direct profit. It it hits, great. As long as it doesn't bomb, it's been worth the investment. But straight BluRay sales figures don't tell you everything, especially when it's near the Manabi line.

ZnT has at least increased the Manga sales pretty nicely, it's selling enough discs and the side stuff seems to be doing well. So, it'll be net profitable. They'd have loved it to sell Jojo numbers, but it's really not that type of series, even if it is really good.

Guardian Enzo · 2013-02-05, 22:30

BONES stubbornness in refusing to compromise in their choice of subject material really impresses me. I wish they were having more commercial success, but they're continuing to challenge the audience and I applaud them for it.

Bern-san · 2013-02-07, 15:48

Spoiler for episode 17:

ookamigirl · 2013-02-07, 15:56

Episode 17

Spoiler for plot:

Aqua Knight · 2013-02-07, 16:15

I can't wait for episode 18!
Too awesome episode 17.

Elestia · 2013-02-07, 16:38

Definite one of the most enjoyable episodes of this series. Now I kind of wonder what would happen if Aika were still alive and had met Hakaze.

mistress_kisara · 2013-02-07, 20:25

Episode 17

Spoiler:

Can't wait for next week!

ars89 · 2013-02-07, 23:01

Again Hanemura tells Mahiro straight about Aika like he did before. Now wonder what Hakaze will do. Mahiro now might have a real reason to kill yoshino.

garbage · 2013-02-07, 23:12

excellent episode with a nice buildup to that reveal bomb at the end!!

ahh now can't wait for ep18 to find out what they would do especially Mahiro, i think Hakaze would be happy though, weird though it may be being happy for someone being dead or maybe just relieved. Until she figures The Tree of Genesis can actually act retroactively, meaning it's fully possible ToG did Kill Aika a year ago to bring Yoshino to her today....

Nice Going Hanemura, just the needed outside view, since they were all to close to Yoshino and the situation to figure that out. It's high time for that info to come out anyway.

Liking Hakaze more & more every Episode

But Aika is so cute too in that flashback. I changed my mind, she's not really that scary or at least Yoshino IS fully at her level & with Hakaze too for that matter..... so is he the Heart of the ToE? :P who knows....maybe Aika is MoE and then she transferred her heart to yoshino & the power to Hanemura ....nyahaha spec spec..

(glad have no previews Knowledge so I can savior every reveal every week , anime-only here, no spoilers pleeeaase!

)

Johnny · 2013-02-08, 00:49

Hakaze is just too damn adorable as she always is and from the previews it looks like there might be some sort of fallout between Yoshino and her...

velocd · 2013-02-08, 03:09

The pacing of this episode was exceptional. I didn't expect Hakaze's confession, nor the reveal of the Yoshino's hidden relationship, either I feared would drag on all season. The second season already has surpassed my expectations for this series. Very poetic direction.

SeaDoor · 2013-02-08, 16:58

How fitting in a story so often quoting Shakespeare that the character playing the fool is the one to point out the obvious. For me it is a stunning contrast that the same players who had devised plans and schemes impacting the entire world are now so confounded by the affairs of the human heart.

Lord, what fools these mortals be.

paraalso · 2013-02-08, 17:40

Zetsuen no Tempest has really been the surprise hit of the season for me. This is a somewhat lackluster season otherwise, but this is the one show I'm always really looking forward to. It's a pity the anime isn't doing better. It's definitely a show that takes more than one episode to get into.

2013-02-04, 12:10	Link #862
LKK Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Virginia, USA Age: 62	Slightly OT: If you have access to the US PBS network, you might be interested in 2 shows that are scheduled for this coming Friday night, two episodes of the series Shakespeare Uncovered. Each Shakespeare Uncovered episode looks in depth at a specific play. Friday's first episode looks into Hamlet hosted by actor David Tennant. The second episode looks into The Tempest hosted by director Trevor Nunn. The shows air at 9pm & 10pm ET, but you should verify the times with your local listings if you're interested. __________________ Avatar: Hazuki of Natsuyuki Rendezvous / Signature: flowers from Natsuyuki Rendezvous

2013-02-05, 07:02	Link #863
Bern-san Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009	January 21st - 27th Anime sales: 18, 1,911 Zetsuen no Tempest Manga sales: 4 108,673 Zetsuen no Tempest, Vol.8 Don't know how other volumes of the manga have sold before but I guess the anime has helped a bit for volume 8? __________________

2013-02-05, 12:03	Link #866
Bern-san Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009	^Thanks for your input, I wasn't really expecting it to be a hit. I feared it was going to be a complete disaster although we'll have to see how the next volumes will sell I guess. By the way in the light novels section I saw this: 4 *19,468 Zetsuen no Tempest 8.5 Collaboration Guide Book __________________

2013-02-07, 15:48	Link #870
Bern-san Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009	Spoiler for episode 17: Basically this episode was just about Aika and Yoshino, but in my opinion that's good because I really like their scenes especially these ones which were so lovey-dovey. Aika is a bit of a possessive girlfriend, I wonder who spread that rumor about Yoshino Hakaze being cute and conflicted with her feelings but she finally did what she had to do! Just tell Yoshino. Hanemura may be a wimp without killing instincts, he is just an average guy who happens to be the only capable of saving the world from the Tree of Genesis and doesn't understand any of those schemings and crazy theories the others make; but he seems to be the only one capable of seeing things how really are and doesn't have a problem stating them: that Mahiro was in love with Aika and that she was Yoshino's girlfriend. Now the question is, what will happen from now on? __________________

2013-02-07, 15:56	Link #871
ookamigirl Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	Episode 17 Spoiler for plot: Hakaze is really in love with Yoshino, a lot! Flashbacks to his days with Aika were nice. I think he should let go of her and move on already. Seems like Yoshino may be a mage of Exodus as well. I was surprised Hakaze confessed so suddenly. Interesting episode, more on the romance side. __________________ My Blog --> ookami

2013-02-02, 08:45	Link #861
kivredia Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Age: 36	Yeah, order of things is changed a bit. Some things of this episode originally belonged in the later part of next weeks. Next episode should be a treat for both Hakaze and Aika fans, lots of dere-dere and flashbacks. The pink background for Hakaze was a nice touch. Though it reminded me of Samon hitting the ground with his saya over and over again, made me cringe every time.

2013-02-05, 07:05	Link #864
Kakkou Tch. Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Australia	If it helped the manga sales then it'd be at least some profit to come from it, since the anime sales itself bombed.

2013-02-05, 09:20	Link #865
SQA Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012	Previous volumes would only chart their 2nd week with around 60k total volumes. I'm not sure if that's due to release date or what (seems a tad odd). Still, it's at least boost of 30k initial sales volume over Vol 7 and 45k over Vol 6 (which I believe is actually the previous volume before the anime started). Add in some some back catalog sales (maybe an extra 5k per volume, so maybe another 40k total sales all together) and merchandize, then you probably don't have a loss for the anime. Which is a good thing. Also helps if it increase total circulation numbers for the manga magazine (something we tend to forget about, as well). Huge hit, no. Probably profitable? Yes. Further cement BONES as doing solid anime that doesn't sell well? Yup!

2013-02-07, 16:15	Link #872
Aqua Knight Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Age: 31	I can't wait for episode 18! Too awesome episode 17. __________________ I can’t sleep tonight…fish girl, sing me a song!

2013-02-07, 16:38	Link #873
Elestia Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: California	Definite one of the most enjoyable episodes of this series. Now I kind of wonder what would happen if Aika were still alive and had met Hakaze. __________________

2013-02-07, 20:25	Link #874
mistress_kisara Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008	Episode 17 Spoiler: Yoshino finally dropped the bombshell to Hakaze. Samon and co. were so funny when they're trying to figure out who Yoshino's girlfriend is, and kudos to Hanemura for figuring out that Aika is Yoshino's girlfriend. Can't wait for next week!

2013-02-07, 23:01	Link #875
ars89 One-Eyed Dragon Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NJ, USA	Again Hanemura tells Mahiro straight about Aika like he did before. Now wonder what Hakaze will do. Mahiro now might have a real reason to kill yoshino. __________________ My Anime List

2013-02-07, 23:12	Link #876
garbage Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011	excellent episode with a nice buildup to that reveal bomb at the end!! ahh now can't wait for ep18 to find out what they would do especially Mahiro, i think Hakaze would be happy though, weird though it may be being happy for someone being dead or maybe just relieved. Until she figures The Tree of Genesis can actually act retroactively, meaning it's fully possible ToG did Kill Aika a year ago to bring Yoshino to her today.... Nice Going Hanemura, just the needed outside view, since they were all to close to Yoshino and the situation to figure that out. It's high time for that info to come out anyway. Liking Hakaze more & more every Episode But Aika is so cute too in that flashback. I changed my mind, she's not really that scary or at least Yoshino IS fully at her level & with Hakaze too for that matter..... so is he the Heart of the ToE? :P who knows....maybe Aika is MoE and then she transferred her heart to yoshino & the power to Hanemura ....nyahaha spec spec.. (glad have no previews Knowledge so I can savior every reveal every week , anime-only here, no spoilers pleeeaase! ) __________________

2013-02-08, 00:49	Link #877
Johnny Working the bags... Join Date: Mar 2009	Hakaze is just too damn adorable as she always is and from the previews it looks like there might be some sort of fallout between Yoshino and her...

2013-02-08, 03:09	Link #878
velocd Witcher, with tenure Join Date: Sep 2004	The pacing of this episode was exceptional. I didn't expect Hakaze's confession, nor the reveal of the Yoshino's hidden relationship, either I feared would drag on all season. The second season already has surpassed my expectations for this series. Very poetic direction.

2013-02-08, 16:58	Link #879
SeaDoor Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Southeastern US	How fitting in a story so often quoting Shakespeare that the character playing the fool is the one to point out the obvious. For me it is a stunning contrast that the same players who had devised plans and schemes impacting the entire world are now so confounded by the affairs of the human heart. Lord, what fools these mortals be.

2013-02-08, 17:40	Link #880
paraalso Member Join Date: Sep 2004	Zetsuen no Tempest has really been the surprise hit of the season for me. This is a somewhat lackluster season otherwise, but this is the one show I'm always really looking forward to. It's a pity the anime isn't doing better. It's definitely a show that takes more than one episode to get into.