2012-10-01, 02:20 | Link #2502 | |
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http://www.therossman.com/rrr/anime/...ven_movie.html I just watched the movie I was wrong it is some overtly large SAR craft. Though the movie does give hints as to the nature of AO universe and others like it. Probably a clue what Quartz really is and its purpose. And probably why Secrets are an antibody response to Scub and Quartz. |
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2012-10-01, 10:46 | Link #2503 | ||
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I think I'm up to something.
Has it been implied what would have happened had Adroc not removed the Amita drive back at the experiment with Eureka and "saved the world"? Quote:
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And, not trying to oppose your opinion, just honestly wondering- what made you think it was a Search and Rescue ship? Obviously by its behavior, coming down to 'survivors' like that in order to rescue them, it does make sense that it's one, but (correct me if I'm wrong) haven't Renton and Eureka appeared in Neverland in that ending scene? Would there really be anyone to 'rescue' them there? And rescue from what? Last edited by Raincollie; 2012-10-01 at 11:08. |
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2012-10-01, 13:26 | Link #2504 | |||||
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Although at the same time this feels like a stupid theory... XD Quote:
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As for why the Scub chose Naru instead of Ao... I kind of just figured that was because Ao already was half Coralian so making a link to him would be "useless", probably because the Scub sees him more as one of it than a human, so the Scub figured it wouldn't be making communication like that... And this second part is probably one of those other theories that feels stupid to say... Quote:
You know I'm going to stop now before I feel stupid for sharing any of these more theories that can be stupid and plausible at the same time
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2012-10-01, 18:19 | Link #2508 | |||
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The original E7 states that the Scub didn't know anything about humanity when it arrived. Why would the Scub, after becoming enlightened, return to the past and suddenly lose all its memories of what happened before? THIS is why people are so upset. E7:AO says the Scub came from the future. The Scub KNOWS about Renton and Eureka. It doesn't make sense that the Scub wouldn't recognize Ao as one of its own, even being half human. And even if it didn't, Eureka came to the past too. Why didn't the Scub contact her then? In the end, we're left assuming that they forgot their own lore and just chose Naru as the vehicle of the Scubs' will out of plot contrivance. Another example of the out of place behavior of the Scub is them allowing themselves to be suicide bombed by Secrets. Orange wasn't even totally annihilating the Scub, just hurting it enough that large portions of it were waking up. The Secrets are. Why in the WORLD would they deploy antibody coralians to defend themselves in the case of the former and not the later? We've considered this for a long time, trust me. It doesn't make any sense at all. Quote:
And even then, Eureka has shown (episode 49) that she can hear the voice of the Scub (she noted that she couldn't hear them anymore after the Command Cluster is destroyed). Why wouldn't the Scub just dial her up when she arrived in the past? She is the first coralian to successfully fulfill the mission the Scub gave to her. Why wouldn't it recognize her? And with what we've learned in episode 22, why in the world would the Scub be destroying multiple universes after becoming enlightened and telling Renton and Eureka to show the way to all life on the planet? You're not being stupid. There's a lack of information for any of us to solve this thing out. Even at 22/24 episodes we're STILL grasping for straws. Quote:
First, there's the fact that the Spec2 inexplicably appeared in the past and Eureka was piloting it, even though Spec2 evolved into Spec3 and LEFT. We can assume that this is another one that Renton built, but its never stated that it is. We're just left to think that its the original with no explanation (probably so we could be all nostalgic). Second, (ignoring all the prior) we know that Naru is currently in control of the Spec2. Which makes it physically impossible for Renton's Nirvash to be a Spec3 with armor. The fact that Renton built the RA272 probably means he built this Nirvash too. |
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2012-10-01, 21:33 | Link #2509 |
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No... I still feel stupid for somehow derping on the fact the Scubs in AO came from the future... did this happen in the last couple of episodes and somehow I forgot it because I was busy trying to clean up the mess of releases that happened when *someone in group who will not be named* tried to bypass the main editors of the subs... >_<
And yeah, you don't have to remind me of the familiar Eureka seveN series, I sure as hell know that one, kinda special to me in a way <3 As for how Spec 2 and Spec 3 could exist together I just figured that was more time shit... it doesn't make sense for Spec 2 to be in AO at all...
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2012-10-01, 22:06 | Link #2511 | ||
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Nirvash is NOT a loose term collaborating archetype-based LFOs. While we don't know what exactly makes a Nirvash archetype qualify for the name, we can assume that Nirvash LFOs have a coralian partner(artificial coralian in Anemone's case) and certain properties (sentience being one of them). theEND had a lot of unique properties but not as many as the typeZERO did. What we have in Astral Ocean is an example of the writers just taking the name and running with it. I'm getting the strong feeling that the current ones didn't really pay too much attention to the original series. |
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2012-10-01, 22:28 | Link #2512 | |
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You keep beating me to the punch, Tyr. But, just to address one point, Renton using the name isn't necessarily ignoring the original series, just honoring the original with a new series based on it.
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2012-10-01, 22:30 | Link #2513 | ||
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The Scub arrived from space destroying the space craft called Eureka 7 and landing in the ocean assimilating coral. That is why they are called Scub Coral. As seen with Eureka and the Gekko the Scub coral were teleporting somewhere else. In this case the AO universe. The Scub Coral did not come from space but from another universe. As seen with Renton he is moving universe to universe looking for his family and the means to save the multiverse. The world he is on is the Pocketful of Rainbows universe 10,000 years later. Saying another world was destroyed as the Scub broke pass the quarantine. Quote:
Scubs coming back to life and masses of Coralian Carriers. Everything she did was for Ao. She said that herself. In her twisted mind if the world discriminates Ao because he is different then she'll make everybody the same as him. She pulled a Magneto. Only now did she realize her mistake as facts are laid bare. She was harming lots of people now that Truth is on a rampage. As high Trapar concentrations has a bad effect on Coral Carriers. |
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2012-10-01, 22:38 | Link #2514 | |
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2012-10-01, 22:51 | Link #2516 | |
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Nirvash is just a name. It isn't the name of the archetype, it's the name of the entire unit. The Nirvash's archetype was unique, and the only one with which the Amita Drive worked. TheEND is not the same thing. For that matter, to claim that there was no Compac Drive is foolish because it had a completely atypical cockpit. There's no empty slot to make your claim true. Futuremore, considering TheEND is either a) a pile of scrap metal in his universe or b) an abandoned LFO in Ao's universe, either way you slice it he could not have upgraded it as you're trying to claim. This new Nirvash isn't the same one. The real Nirvash is currently in its spec2 form for whatever reason and it still has the Amita Drive with it. Because that ship Renton is looting comes from that universe.
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2012-10-01, 23:14 | Link #2517 | ||||
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Second, I hadn't talked about Naru at all really (except to wonder why coral carriers were necessary in the first place), so I'm not sure where you got that I didn't watch Eureka 7. In fact, I've been watching over and over just so I can get a better idea of where things don't make sense in AO. Diane explained the origins of the Scub Coral well enough in episode 47. Quote:
We still don't know what this "quarantine" is, or why the Scub is destroying worlds. Especially when the Scub we know and love would never do things like this. Or at least that's what the original E7 would have us believe. If the Scub is truly a dimension hopping entity, why hasn't the Scub from E7 met up with the Scub from other universes and given them the proof that humankind can live together with them and they don't need to commit genocide on a multidimensional level? Quote:
And even then, all this STILL doesn't explain why the Scub Coral hasn't tried to contact Ao yet (or why he isn't just privy to Scub communications telepathically like his mother was). Or why it hadn't contacted Eureka immediately. Or why there's been no Antibody Coralians or anything of the sort. The Scub didn't try to assimilate any of the cities that had been attacked with Orange, the first thing it did was respond to the attack with antibodies. Quote:
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2012-10-01, 23:16 | Link #2518 | |
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2012-10-01, 23:24 | Link #2520 | |
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The Scub was supposed to have reached enlightenment. Did it suddenly renege on its decision and decide to exterminate humanity? Maybe we'll find out in episodes 23/24, maybe not. |
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