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Old 2013-12-13, 13:14   Link #4721
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Or he can just go and make his own.
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Old 2013-12-13, 13:36   Link #4722
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He'll have to, because of the known Servants in all of the Fate/stay night franchise and its spinoffs, there's only two Servants with non-European and non-Asian backgrounds (and even one of those is debatable):

Arcueid Brunestud (from Fate/Extra) and Pestilence (from Fate/strange fake).
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Old 2013-12-14, 12:00   Link #4723
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so, for a full non european/non asian servant it's got to be an american or african servant (well australia too), i am of the ide that one of the aztecs gods was amde into a servant but maybe I am remembering incorrectly.
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Old 2013-12-14, 14:56   Link #4724
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After having just looked through the list I can safely say there are no western hemisphere Servants of any kind from the canon of Fate/stay night and its extended spinoffs. Every Servant has origins dating back to Europe (and in that case, mostly Greece) or Asia (fairly even split between middle eastern and far eastern). There are a few god-types in there, particularly from Fate/Extra CCC, and of those two, they're amalgamations of Greek, Norse, and Hindu deities.

As I mentioned before, the ONLY Servants who haven't had origins from Europe or Asia are Arcueid (who is a True Ancestor), and Pestilence (who is a disease).
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Old 2013-12-15, 01:39   Link #4725
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What exactly is a leyline? I'm guessing it's places that contains lots of mana?
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Old 2013-12-15, 09:17   Link #4726
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ley_line

Has both real world and common fictional definitions of it.
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Old 2013-12-17, 12:34   Link #4727
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Even the asian legendary souls are rare. But at least they exist.

And to be fair, the other regions don't have very well-known legends. I'm not saying they -don't- have legends, they are likely to have a lot of them even, but you'll have to search a bit to find them.
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Old 2013-12-18, 22:24   Link #4728
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In episode 22, what did Saber mean when she said "Perhaps I will divine Shirou's fortune"? I've never heard that saying before.

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Old 2013-12-18, 22:43   Link #4729
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When she was alive, she learned Astrology (mystical, not scientific) from Merlin (I think). "Divining his fortune" basically means reading his fortune from the stars, in the same way one would from Tarot Cards or a palm reading.
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Old 2013-12-18, 23:05   Link #4730
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Wow, neat. I never would have guessed that.
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Old 2013-12-19, 15:34   Link #4731
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I'm not sure that's true, but she probably does believe in that sort of stuff due to the nature of the time she lived in.
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Old 2013-12-19, 16:35   Link #4732
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Is the Einzbern castle in the intro ep of FZ the same castle as Illya's castle in FSN where Archer and Berserker fought?
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Old 2013-12-19, 17:46   Link #4733
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I'm not sure that's true, but she probably does believe in that sort of stuff due to the nature of the time she lived in.
Day 15 or so of Fate route

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Old 2013-12-19, 17:47   Link #4734
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Is the Einzbern castle in the intro ep of FZ the same castle as Illya's castle in FSN where Archer and Berserker fought?
It is a different one. The Einzbern only use the castle in Fuyuki around the time of the Holy Grail War.
The Fuyuki castle is where Kiritsugu fought Kayneth and where Archer fought Berserker.
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Old 2013-12-20, 21:40   Link #4735
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It is a different one. The Einzbern only use the castle in Fuyuki around the time of the Holy Grail War.
The Fuyuki castle is where Kiritsugu fought Kayneth and where Archer fought Berserker.
Well, when in the intro episode are you talking about?

Certainly there is more than one castle. The one Iri was created and where Ilya lived is in Germany or some other German-speaking country (possibly Switzerland, because I recall Ilya having Francs in the original VN), and is their normal living location and the Eiiinzbern family base. The one in Fuyuki is indeed only used as accomodation for their nominated master in the Grail War. Ilya says it is empty the rest of the time. I don't remember if the one in Fuyuki is shown in the first episode or not, but I'm pretty sure the one in Germany is.
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Old 2013-12-20, 23:09   Link #4736
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I don't think the Fuyuki one is shown, since if I recall the episode ends with Saber being summoned, and they still had to fly into Fuyuki after that.
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Old 2013-12-21, 07:47   Link #4737
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Well, when in the intro episode are you talking about?

Certainly there is more than one castle. The one Iri was created and where Ilya lived is in Germany or some other German-speaking country (possibly Switzerland, because I recall Ilya having Francs in the original VN), and is their normal living location and the Eiiinzbern family base. The one in Fuyuki is indeed only used as accomodation for their nominated master in the Grail War. Ilya says it is empty the rest of the time. I don't remember if the one in Fuyuki is shown in the first episode or not, but I'm pretty sure the one in Germany is.
The only castle which appears in the first episode is the main castle where the Einzbern family lives in, the one in the "German-speaking country".

The castle in Fuyuki appears for the first time in episode 7, if I checked correctly.

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Old 2013-12-24, 03:11   Link #4738
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Is it the lesser grail or the greater grail that allows servants to stay in the real world? I've always thought that without the lesser grail, servants wouldn't be able to stay in the real world, as was what happened in FZ when Saber destroyed the lesser grail (cup). Someone I'm talking to claims the lesser grail has no part in servants being able to stay in the real world.

If I'm wrong, then what caused Saber's disappearance?
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Old 2013-12-24, 03:16   Link #4739
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Saber disappeared because she was caught in the blast of Excalibur. Gilgamesh survived on account of his armor and Independent Action skill.
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Old 2013-12-24, 12:18   Link #4740
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Is it the lesser grail or the greater grail that allows servants to stay in the real world? I've always thought that without the lesser grail, servants wouldn't be able to stay in the real world, as was what happened in FZ when Saber destroyed the lesser grail (cup). Someone I'm talking to claims the lesser grail has no part in servants being able to stay in the real world.

If I'm wrong, then what caused Saber's disappearance?
I don't think a Grail is needed to keep a servant in the world. Only a prana source and a master(anchor) is needed.

Spoiler for Fate/Stay Night Visual Novel Endings:

A Servant without a master has to have the Independent Action skill to stay in the world for a certain amount of time.

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Saber disappeared because she was caught in the blast of Excalibur. Gilgamesh survived on account of his armor and Independent Action skill.
Saber wasn't caught in the blast, she used up all her prana to create the blast, she also lost the will to stay in the world and Kiritsugu didn't let her stay.

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